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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 06:55:25 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED corrected, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 01:50:20 2014. To here [sic] that Prosecutor talk he sounded like he worked for the DAProsecutors all work for the "DA." Although they're not called DAs in Missouri. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Nov 25 07:34:24 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by WillD on Tue Nov 25 04:20:13 2014. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Nov 25 07:43:41 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by WillD on Tue Nov 25 04:20:13 2014. I agree except for the part about salaam kicking him. Salaam is doing no such thing as he is the most untruthful person on these forums. People like him get the least respect. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 07:52:20 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Nov 25 07:43:41 2014. Yeah, Silence is kicking his own ass. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 25 08:09:25 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by WillD on Mon Nov 24 23:11:45 2014. Yet, that seems to be the card played all the time when people bring up "slavery", etc to "justify". |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 25 08:35:19 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 07:52:20 2014. Correct. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 08:39:03 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Mon Nov 24 22:52:30 2014. That's a disputed etymology. The more likely answer is that it was based on the term "patrol wagon." Patrol is easily shortened to "paddy." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 08:42:04 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 00:12:03 2014. The draft riots were totally race motivated. Why else would they attack the Colored Orphan Asylum while protesting against a draft imposed by the all-white federal government? |
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Posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 08:46:50 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 01:43:44 2014. Agreed but it seems that most here who expressed their opinion were genuinely pleased based on what they had heard about the case. There were others here that engaged in chiding fellow posters here because of their strong but ultimately incorrect predictions about this case. I think that's okay so long as you understand that this case was decided by the rule of law. I don't see anyone here going out and engaging in violent protests. That's a good thing. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Nov 25 08:52:59 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 08:39:03 2014. From Wikipedia:Paddy Wagon The word paddy wagon is of American origin. Seemingly an abbreviation of "patrol wagon", the precise origin of the term is uncertain and disputed, though its use dates back to the 1800s.[1] In the same manner that police cars are called patrol cars today, there were no cars when the term "patrol wagon" was first used, explaining why people don't say "paddy car" for patrol car. There are at least two other theories as how the phrase originated.[2] The most prevalent theory is based on the term "Paddy" (a common Irish shortening of Patrick, as in the Irish language Patrick is Padraig), which was used (often as derogatory slang) to refer to Irish people.[3] Irishmen made up a large percentage of the officers of early police forces in many American cities. Thus, this theory suggests that the concentration of Irish in the police forces led to the term "paddy wagon" being used to describe the vehicles driven by police. An alternative theory is similarly based on the term "Paddy" but states that the term arose due to the allegedly high crime level among Irish immigrants.[4] |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 09:09:09 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Dave on Tue Nov 25 08:52:59 2014. And? That there are multiple theories implies dispute. |
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Posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:10:05 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Dave on Tue Nov 25 08:52:59 2014. Now you've done it. When are you going to learn not to post fact to refute racist rants. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 09:10:17 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 08:42:04 2014. The draft riots definetly was race motivated. Talking about crime as not being a race issue. Most crime happens in impoverished nieghborhoods. |
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Posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:23:02 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 09:10:17 2014. Slippery Slope Warning:12% of the population commit a largely disproportionate amount of the violent crime in the U.S. Are you claiming that its economics or sociological or the racism of a white justice system? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 09:26:56 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:23:02 2014. The correlation between crime and poverty is way greater than any correlation between crime and race or ethnicity.The justice system also tends to serve poor people less well. Far more poor people spend time in jail (with consequences for their jobs or school) for possessing one marijuana cigarette than middle class people. |
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Posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:33:30 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 09:26:56 2014. Perhaps its the lawyers themselves and not the justice system that contribute towhat you claim. I doubt that OJs "Dream Team" would have worked pro bono. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 09:36:08 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:33:30 2014. The justice system should compensate to some degree for the fact that a defendant can't afford a lawyer for a petty offense. A judge should be thinking "What sentence would I impose if this schlemiel had a lawyer arguing his case?" |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Nov 25 10:38:39 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:10:05 2014. My bad. |
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Posted by rkba on Tue Nov 25 11:09:35 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 09:36:08 2014. i've got one better: maybe they should stop being criminals. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Nov 25 11:10:41 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Nov 24 21:56:27 2014. I have not gone through every post on this thread so I apologize if this was already posted. The New York Times actually did a really good overview of the Grand Jury transcripts showing the conflicting testimony and why the Grand Jury ultimately could not find probable cause on any of the charged crimesLINK |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Nov 25 11:16:03 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 24 23:53:18 2014. You are correct!!!! |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Nov 25 11:17:37 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 09:36:08 2014. That already does happen, at least by where I live. The sentencing guidelines do provide a lot of leeway and Judges are rarely chided for reasonable downward modifications. I have a civil case where a client was hit by a drunk driver (he survived but had collarbone and other injuries) and the Judge gave 1 year (plea deal was 1-3) because there was an ICE hold and since the guy will be deported the Judge did not want the taxpayers to pay longer than they needed to to incarcerate since he will be deported when his sentence is done |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 11:27:19 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by rkba on Tue Nov 25 11:09:35 2014. Racist. Middle class whites are criminals sometimes too. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 25 11:50:09 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue Nov 25 07:43:41 2014. you dont get any respect turtle either |
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Posted by rkba on Tue Nov 25 11:58:38 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 11:27:19 2014. so? why do you feel that they're allowed to be criminals? |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 12:02:10 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:33:30 2014. You just proved his point. And I'm sure if u study those statistics not by race but class you will see most criminals are poor or drugs. The other big three cuases is drugs and crimes of passion of course. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 25 12:41:05 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 25 11:50:09 2014. Wrong! LOL. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 13:13:57 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by train dude on Tue Nov 25 09:10:05 2014. What racist rants? Those of The Silence? Yes, Dave posted facts that help refute them, but not completely. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 25 13:14:52 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Nov 25 12:41:05 2014. RIGHT LOL ! |
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Posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 25 13:16:30 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Mon Nov 24 22:04:39 2014. And the king of hate Al Sharpton is now getting his 15 minutes of fame again. I think he loves this stuff,oh how he preys on the families so they think its all for them. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 25 13:28:08 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by busdude2 on Tue Nov 25 13:16:30 2014. where ? on tv ? |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 16:35:55 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by AlM on Tue Nov 25 09:36:08 2014. Basically best example i can think of is what if OJ Simpson had a public defender. He woould have probably been strongly convinced to take a plea deal or have been convicted. $$$ makes a big difference. Look at the drug laws. The drug offenses penalties for the 'poor ppl' drugs ie crack vs coccaine are the strongest. $$$$ talks |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 25 16:38:13 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 16:35:55 2014. he was convicted in las vegas |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 16:46:36 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 25 16:38:13 2014. Lol well yeah he was. He should have knon better. As many ppl in law enforcement he pissed off by getting off in the murder case he should have been a church mouse for the redt of his life. But he had to tempt fate with that stupid book and Las Vagas. If he did murder her(I think he did) then it was karma coming back to bite him in the ass. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Nov 25 16:52:59 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 16:46:36 2014. if i were him i would have taken a plea deal serve 3 years and he would have been out by nowi never thought he killed anybody however thsi was not karma it was his being stupid and a dumb ass |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 22:28:03 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by rkba on Mon Nov 24 22:38:27 2014. Of course I have 'blind hatred for whites',when I know You have blind hatred for me.Furthermore, YOU, of All people should not be talk or posting about hate.. By the way,We did our 'digging' on you..and you are a dirty son of a bitch. Got Everybody fooled,except me,right... Busy compiling your crap into a nice file..then attatching who you really are to it...Then Will post it here,my blog and other blogs of friends... Let's see how you 'turtle' out of this. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Nov 26 02:07:05 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 25 22:28:03 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 02:23:55 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED corrected, posted by FtGreeneG on Tue Nov 25 01:50:20 2014. Prosecutors work for the DA (or equivalent) by definition. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 02:28:08 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by WillD on Tue Nov 25 04:20:13 2014. No, DoodieW is as wrong as ever. Ofc. Wilson was defending his right to health and safety from someone who was attempting to take it from him. That is a judgment call all citizens have the right to, and if found that right was used justifiability, then the only conclusions is that the facts support the events.If the facts didn't, Wilson would be facing trial. If you're done putting words in my mouth to try and paint me as a racist, you can shut the fuck up. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 02:34:25 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Mon Nov 24 22:52:30 2014. Answer: Paddy is the proper diminutive (that roughly means shortening) of Patrick (Patty is only for Patricia). in the late 19th into the early 20th century, Irish people were so disliked they were often called "White Negros", even though they held a majority in civil service jobs. So One Paddy was ridding in the van, tossing other paddy's in it.Or, in other words, Irish people were so despised that they were compared to black people. Because, you know, being black was even worse. Today, in 2014, black people are being murdered in cold blood by white cops whose actions are endorsed by society, and you are telling them: "You think you have it bad? A hundred years ago, my ancestors faced almost as much discrimination as you do today. So stop complaining that you're the only oppressed people here." They seem to think only Black people have ever been disliked. No, but white people have never faced any systemic racial prejudice at any point in history ever. Irish people may have been oppressed by white people, but Irish people weren't white until after that oppression ended, so that doesn't count. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 02:35:51 2014, in response to Re: he was not MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 02:28:08 2014. If the facts didn't, Wilson would be facing trial.So you're saying that all judicial decisions are always right under all circumstances ever? |
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Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 02:53:40 2014, in response to Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico., posted by RockParkMan on Mon Nov 24 22:07:40 2014. ^^^ That's like saying ALL "niggers" are savages.... Get my analogy? BOTH are untrue statements and using slurs against both groups doesn't help the cause.... |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 02:56:37 2014, in response to Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico., posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 02:53:40 2014. ALL "niggers" are savagesBedtime. Now. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 02:56:40 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by RockParkMan on Mon Nov 24 21:29:47 2014. How is it OK to stereotype the police and call them names BUT abhorant to do the same thing to blacks? Here's your answer....It's not. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 03:02:53 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 02:34:25 2014. I never said who got what worse, I'm saying, but making sound like Black people are they only one's who were ever discriminated against, you are insulting the memory od every person who ever suffered under an oppressor. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:05:55 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 02:56:40 2014. Well, when you grow up you'll learn about this thing called "logic" and when you do you'll understand that a group defined by ideology and action whose members join it voluntarily is not the same thing as a group arbitrarily defined by birth.Here's your homework: Suppose I grab 10 random people whose first name is Steve or some variant thereon, like Stephen or Stephanie. I call them Group Steve. Next, I grab 10 random people who are in prison for murdering a child between the ages of 2 and 4. I call them Group Baby Killer. My associate, Terry, remarks: "Why would you want anything to do with Group Baby Killer? Don't you know they all murder children?" My other associate, Gonad, says: "That's not fair! How is it OK to stereotype the members of Group Baby Killer but abhorrent to do the same thing to Group Steve?" Who has made a valid point? Terry or Gonad? Please note that the statement: "They all murder children" is not true of Group Baby Killer, as one of that group's ten members has been wrongfully convicted of murdering a child that he did not, in fact, kill. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:07:00 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 03:02:53 2014. Explain yourself. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 03:13:52 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED (and you're defending his murderer)., posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 02:35:51 2014. no, you're saying that. I'm saying that given how much pressure people like you are putting on this case, they had to be God-damn sure of themselves. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Wed Nov 26 03:15:19 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED corrected, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Nov 25 06:55:25 2014. Sorry typo meant Defense. What I get for typing on my phone in a rush. |
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Posted by FtGreeneG on Wed Nov 26 03:16:15 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED corrected, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 02:23:55 2014. Meant the defense. Typo. |
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