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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:17:03 2014, in response to No indictment, posted by Dave on Mon Nov 24 21:20:03 2014. What I want to know about this whole incident is WHY there is a large group of people that are rallying behind a CRIMINAL who was doing CRIMINAL acts and BECAUSE of those criminal acts, met his demise? I told you guys in August that this would be the GJ result once the FACTS were in. It's really pretty simple. Michael Brown was the SOLE person responsible for his death DUE TO HIS OWN ACTIONS that night. Race had nothing to do with it. Being a young man thinking he was invincible did.We ALL know people that died when we were 16-25 doing stupid shit. Riding a rice rocket too fast and wiping out. Subway surfing. Getting involved with the wrong crowd and getting shot. OD'ing on heroin. The list goes on. Mr. Brown's youthful stunt was thinking he was so much of a gangsta that he was just gonna rob (and that's what it was, a ROBBERY, NOT petit larceny like some of the press and protestors want to make it out to be.) the store and manhandle the clerk and when stopped by the police a short time later, become the gangsta badass again and charge the cop's door of the car he was in and punch Wilson in the face AND TRY TO GRAB FOR HIS GUN. Now, at this point, WHAT WOULD ANY OF YOU WANT OFFICER WILSON TO DO? Run away? Cry? Curl up in the fetal position? I'm sure no one who thinks Wilson was guilty can rationally answer my question as the truth doesn't "fit in" with the whole he-was-murdered-mantra. So Brown starts walking away and of course Wilson had to subdue the fleeing felon. Wilson orders Brown to stop, Brown refuses and charges Wilson again with a closed fist taunting Wilson, according to Wilson AND the other perp who was with him. So, Wilson, legitimately fearing for his life tells Brown to stop or he'll shoot is met with more taunts from Brown. Brown still charges, gets shot several times until he falls down. THAT'S how the grand jury saw it. That's how the forensic evidence saw it. That's how the other mope who was with him saw it. That's how several other witnesses saw it also. This isn't a case of black and white. It's a case of Cop vs. Criminal. No more, no less. Now I wish people had more common sense and stop making this criminal out to be a saint when his ACTIONS tell otherwise.... Missouri law, as well as New York and all the other states, gives the police the right to resort to their firearms if they feel that their life is in imminent danger. Wilson thought just that. Brown thought he was an invincible thug. Guess who lost? |
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Re: he was MURDERED (and you're defending his murderer). |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:26:11 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED (and you're defending his murderer)., posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 03:13:52 2014. no, you're saying that.That makes no sense whatsoever. I'm saying that given how much pressure people like you are putting on this case, they had to be God-damn sure of themselves. What do you mean by "pressure?" Or, for that matter, "people like you?" It's clear that the grand jury was "God-damn sure" that murdering black people is always legal, since that's the decision they made. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:27:37 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:17:03 2014. If you're not in bed in five minutes, I'm going to shoot you and you'll have only yourself to blame. |
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Re: he was MURDERED |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 03:28:29 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:07:00 2014. Well, let's see.His family has never been rounded up by a government into camps because that government refused to trust them. His family has never been rounded up by a government into camps to be killed. His family has never been forced to give up one of his children to the government, have that government convert the child to a different religion, and possibly used against them. He is not considered an alien in the nation in which he was born, forced to deny any connections to his ancestral homeland to so much as get a job. The first is the Japanese-American internment by the US government in WII. (George Takei's new Broadway show on the subject is opening soon) The second, of course, is the Holocaust. The Third is the treatment of the Baltic and Greek people's under Turkish rule, with the so called "Blood Tax" where by every non-Muslim family was supposed to give up a son to the government. Daughter's were taken also, separately, for the harems. And the fourth is the current treatment of those living in Japan of Korean descent, brought there during the period in the early 20th Century when Korean was controlled by Japan. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:28:59 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:05:55 2014. What kind of Libtard "logic" is that? To use your own logic against you it would have to be that EVERY cop is truely corrupt. Which ANYONE with half a brain knows this is simply not the case. Stop making this more than what it really is, a criminal who thought he could rob a store, get stopped a short time later, fight the cop and try to take his firearm, and get away with it. Newsflash: white cops are allowed to arrest people from other races AND use DPF against them if need be. Same for black cops against people of other races then their own... No matter HOW you try to put a spin on this, at the end of the day it stil is what it is... A JUSTIFYABLE homicide brought forth by Mr. Brown's foolish actions....So it doesn't make it "more" justifyable to insult the police just because they voluntarily took the job as opposed to someone that was born a certain way. Capice? BTW, Any Steve can always change their name and not be a Steve anymore, BUT, the Subchat crowd brands a cop for life, whether or not they are still, in fact one or not.... |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 03:31:01 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:27:37 2014. Can't face facts.Can't come up with an argument, so you just resort to nonsense. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:33:56 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:27:37 2014. THIS is your comeback to me? Actually, I'm probrably older than you. Secondly, I'm at work right now (Ya wanna guess why??) Third, If you were to brandish a firearm at me I would shoot you first and guess what? A NY GJ would find MY actions justified! Now sleep on THAT! |
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Re: he was MURDERED |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:37:05 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 03:28:29 2014. Michael Brown Sr. had his son murdered by a government that considered him less than human. You then claimed his protests "insult the memory" of anyone else who has been oppressed.I think what you're trying to tell me is that you support murdering black people and think it's "offensive" for them to compare their situation to Japanese/Jewish/Greek/Korean people who actually deserve the right to basic human dignity. |
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Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:37:46 2014, in response to Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico., posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 02:56:37 2014. Are you paraphrasing my statement? Yeah.....That's what I thought. BTW, I'm sorry to let you down like this but I'm not gay so no matter how many times you ask, I won't go to bed. |
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Re: he was MURDERED |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:44:37 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:37:05 2014. Michael Brown Jr's OWN actions caused his demise. There is NO WAY around it. Case closed. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:44:40 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:28:59 2014. What kind of Libtard "logic" is that? To use your own logic against you it would have to be that EVERY cop is truely corrupt. Which ANYONE with half a brain knows this is simply not the case.Ah right. I forgot that your diseased brain is not capable of understanding logic. Stop making this more than what it really is, a criminal who thought he could rob a store, get stopped a short time blah blah blah blah You know, considering that you forcibly raped your own daughter, I don't think you're one to talk about this. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:46:59 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:33:56 2014. Actually, I'm probrably older than you.I have no evidence to support this hypothesis. You're acting like a shrieking toddler. Third, If you were to brandish a firearm at me I would shoot you first and guess what? A NY GJ would find MY actions justified! Now sleep on THAT! Or in other words, I'm perfectly justified in shooting you. After all, you brandished a firearm at me, so by your own logic I'm entitled to shoot you. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:50:27 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 03:31:01 2014. This isn't an argument and it isn't a debate. I'm an adult. You and your friend Bill are children. I am telling you the facts. Either you are mature enough to agree to them, or you are not mature enough to hold a valid opinion, in which case I will agree on your behalf. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:51:02 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:44:37 2014. What actions? Being black? Raising his hands? Saying "don't shoot?" |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:51:46 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:44:40 2014. Um..... I don't HAVE a daughter....... THIS is what you're resorting to now? Get some help..Pronto!You see folks, THIS is the OT chat mentality on this board. Hit'em with logical facts, get met with vile comments like the above.. ^^^ Yeah... You REALLY showed me!!! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:53:48 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:46:59 2014. Uh...Did you not READ YOUR comment. You said YOU would shoot ME. *I* said that wouldn't happen...Pray tell, just HOW am I acting like a shrieking toddler? Methinks YOU are because the verdict didn't go YOUR way.. Go back to where you came from and whine over there. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:54:49 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:51:46 2014. Stop making this more than what it really is— you raped your daughter and now you think everyone else is a criminal.By the way, it's nice to see simple logic continues to elude you. Can I bring you to my lab? We could learn a lot about brain damage from you. |
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Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:55:54 2014, in response to Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico., posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:37:46 2014. WAAH! WAAH! I DON'T WANNA GO TO BED! YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!It is way past your bedtime. You are going to bed even if I have to lock you in your room. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:57:13 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:50:27 2014. I get it now. You're conceding to defeat and this is the ONLY thing you have left to do, is try to antagonise the people on here with different opinions than your own. |
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Re: he was MURDERED |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:58:08 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:51:02 2014. Being black is not relevant to this case. Apparently he didn't do either of the latter... |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:59:04 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:57:13 2014. I get it now. You're right, so I'll withhold further opinions until I'm more mature.Thank you, Bill. Now that the facts are settled, the matter can be closed. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:00:01 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:54:49 2014. Did I just step into a "Dexter" episode? |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:01:48 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:53:48 2014. Uh...Did you not READ YOUR comment. You said YOU would shoot ME.Yes. You pulled a gun on me, so I'm within my rights to shoot you. This is settled fact. Pray tell, just HOW am I acting like a shrieking toddler? Well you're openly advocating the murder of black people, and you have reacted to every fact and every logical argument by shrieking insults and non sequiturs. When you're older, you'll understand. |
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Re: You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:03:27 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED (and you're defending his murderer)., posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:26:11 2014. That makes no sense whatsoever.Those words were typed by you. To use the vernaicual, they came from your lips, not mine. Never said it, never implied it. What do you mean by "pressure?" This instance that Wilson be held accountable for his actions. You're doing it right now. Or, for that matter, "people like you?" You, meaning people like you, who have little to no factual (and I mean actually factual) knowledge of the events that transpired, ether on that street or in the Grand Jury room, yet act like you were there, watching it. It's clear that the grand jury was "God-damn sure" that murdering black people is always legal, since that's the decision they made. Murdering Black people is never legal. No one in this case was murdered, so why do you keep insisting on using that word? Webster's defines murder as: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought (the following are simply for example's sake) You and another guy get into a fight in a bar and you end up stabbing him with a beer bottle= Not murder. You see a guy making moves on your girlfriend in a bar, wait outside till he leaves and then stab him with a beer bottle= Murder. That's the point I've been trying to make. Look, I've studied law college. I have a BA in Political Science ("arts" in a "Science", I'm still trying to figure that one out). I'm not speaking here as an "ass-hole with an opinion", this is the field I've trained in. The only reason I haven't persuaded it further was my mom got sick right as I was finishing (and my dad having died while only two year earlier), causing me to have a mental breakdown... If I may ask, you went to college, right? No, wait, yes, that's how I first met you, the college free week on NJT. What was your science course in college? Want to know mine? Mine was FORENSICS. I did CSI style lab work for four credits. Look, here's the deal. Show me how I'm wrong. Show me Why I'm wrong. I dare you. All I've gotten out of you are words with no substance. A "white Grand Jury thinks killing blacks is legal" is not substance. It's opinionated fluff. What was Brown doing? What was Wilson doing? Cold hard information. That's what I want. That's all I've wanted. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:03:35 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 03:58:08 2014. Apparently he didn't do either of the latter...And "apparently" you brandished a firearm at me, raped your daughter, etc. Do you understand the logic now? Has it penetrated your thick skull to a sufficient degree that your broken diseased brain managed to notice it for a few seconds? |
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Re: No indictment |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:04:05 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:00:01 2014. No, you're just not intelligent enough to follow along. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:05:11 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:50:27 2014. You don't know "facts" You know fluff. fluffy fluffy fluffy fluff. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:07:34 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:51:02 2014. Raising his hands? Saying "don't shoot?"sure let's base this on actions that NEVER HAPPENED. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:08:13 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:01:48 2014. you have used nether facts nor logic, so you don't get to judge him. |
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Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:08:25 2014, in response to Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico., posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:55:54 2014. Ladies in gentlemen, cue the Twilight Zone music.... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:09:40 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:08:13 2014. I truly think he's just pulling our legs, fucking with us, so take every "out there" comment he makes with a grain of salt... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:10:39 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 03:59:04 2014. OOOOHHHH!!!! You got me with editing my statements!!! Good one!!!!!! You're soooo clever!!!! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:11:57 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:03:35 2014. So, using YOUR twisted logic, the cop is automatically lying due to the fact that he's white and the "pigs" are ALWAYS currupt? |
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Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:12:03 2014, in response to Re: The only NYPD cop with integrity is Frank Serpico., posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:08:25 2014. yes "It's a Good Liberal Life" Where all dissension to the liberal popular opinion is answered with banishment to a cornfield... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:12:23 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:04:05 2014. Are you SURE about that? |
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Re: The Silence Should All Be Killed On Sight |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:13:55 2014, in response to Re: You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:03:27 2014. Those words were typed by you.But they were a summary of your stated beliefs. Which make no sense. This instance that Wilson be held accountable for his actions. You're doing it right now. So you're saying you think people shouldn't be held accountable for their actions? You, meaning people like you, who have little to no factual (and I mean actually factual) knowledge of the events that transpired, ether on that street or in the Grand Jury room, yet act like you were there, watching it. So I guess by your own argument, the 9/11 attacks were committed by the government of the Maldives. After all, you weren't there so you didn't see what transpired, and I say it was the Maldives so that must be actually factual. Webster's defines murder as: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought (the following are simply for example's sake) You and another guy get into a fight in a bar and you end up stabbing him with a beer bottle= Not murder. You see a guy making moves on your girlfriend in a bar, wait outside till he leaves and then stab him with a beer bottle= Murder. You see a guy and you don't like the colour of his skin, so you shoot him repeatedly and then claim he had a nonexistent gun. That's the point I've been trying to make. Look, that's it. That's enough. A black man was murdered in cold blood by a white cop who got away with it because a grand jury decided murdering black people was legal, and the only thing unusual about it was that this time there were protests— protests which were attacked with nerve gas. When it comes to Ferguson, there are only two valid opinions. (a) I believe the evidence shows Darren Wilson intentionally murdered Michael Brown in cold blood and needs to be charged with murder and, in all likelihood, sent to prison. (b) I need to be punched in the face until I agree with (a). Which opinion do you hold? |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:14:00 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:11:57 2014. yea, that's basically their mindset. Never mind the hundreds of Black people killed today by other black people in this country. Let's just focus on this one kid who punched a cop. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:14:39 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:10:39 2014. I'm not "editing" anything. You aren't mature enough to hold a valid opinion, so I'm expressing one on your behalf. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:15:55 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:07:34 2014. Ah, I think that's the problem. You're living in a deluded fantasy world in which Michael Brown was a heavily armed Navy SEAL and Wilson was a dwarf with a rock. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:17:18 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:08:13 2014. Just because you're not intelligent enough to follow the argument doesn't mean I didn't make it. You'll learn that when you're older. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:17:27 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:09:40 2014. Just because you're not intelligent enough to follow the argument doesn't mean I didn't make it. You'll learn that when you're older. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:18:15 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:11:57 2014. No, the cop is lying by definition because he contradicted himself. Repeatedly. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:19:12 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:14:00 2014. Hopefully, someday you'll be shot to death so that I can announce how you brought it on yourself by wielding an RPG and threatening to blow up a Walgreens. |
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Re: No indictment |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:20:17 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Nov 26 04:12:23 2014. Yes. It's obvious. Now bed. |
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Re: Nilet Should Be arrested for ordring someone to be killed because they hold a diffrent opinion |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:25:52 2014, in response to Re: The Silence Should All Be Killed On Sight, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:13:55 2014. (c) Michael Brown committed assault and robbery, and then proceed to punch a police officer in face, simply because he could. The police officer then attempted to apprehend Brown until Brown turned and charged, read to strike. He never said "Don't shoot". He never had his hands raised in surrender, they were in fists ready to swing again.why is that any less valid an than what you wrote? |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:27:06 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:15:55 2014. You're living the deluded fantasy, Where Michael brown was a saint and Wilson was two steps short of being a bad movie villain. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:27:30 2014, in response to Re: Nilet Should Be arrested for ordring someone to be killed because they hold a diffrent opinion, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:25:52 2014. why is that any less valid an than what you wrote?Because it didn't happen. Also, your thread title was a lie so I changed it back. |
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Posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:28:11 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:17:18 2014. The "argument" made by your liberal electronic hive mind?You guys are almost as bad as the Borg... |
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Re: he was MURDERED |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:28:51 2014, in response to Re: he was MURDERED, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:27:06 2014. So you're saying that black people have to be saints to "earn" the right to not be shot in cold blood?Michael Brown is DEAD and you're saying he deserved it because he was black. |
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Re: No indictment |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 04:29:21 2014, in response to Re: No indictment, posted by The Silence on Wed Nov 26 04:28:11 2014. You're spewing gibberish. Go to bed. |
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