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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:24:54 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 00:00:02 2014.

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Neither one of us has conclusive evidence to answer the question either way. Deal with it. I can't "win" but neither can you.

You're closed minded because you're incapable of agreeing to disagree with others, as evidence by the fact some of the threads you've posted in today started about six months ago.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:25:19 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 00:00:15 2014.

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Then where are these Israel-Arabs coming from?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:27:05 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 00:00:15 2014.

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Israel is a democracy in which many of its citizens are religious and the government recognizes that in establishing the calendar of holidays. Why is Israel not allowed such self-determination?

I never said anything about killing infidels. I think you're running away from your own point because you can't bring yourself to admit what you truly want to see in the Middle East.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:27:19 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 00:00:16 2014.

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Nope, sorry. Try again.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by subfan on Thu Sep 18 00:57:38 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 18 00:18:07 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK, but to use your example, it took 116 years for the Hundred Year War to end - and I'm not sure having John Kerry running back and forth between the English and the French trying to make peace would have done any good or made it any shorter. Sometimes, circumstances just don't lend themselves to a nice neat "permanent" solution, and trying to force such a solution only makes things worse. In such case, trying to keep the conflict on a low simmer, rather that having it flaring up, is the best that can be hoped for - and hopefully, a new generation that is ready for peace will eventually grow up and take over.

I'm not saying Israel has never done anything wrong or stupid - it absolutely has. My point was that the the other side has to face reality and make a decision to make peace with Israel as a Jewish state before any real progress can be made. The ball is in their court.

subfan

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:01 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:23:37 2014.

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Firstly, just because something is on the news doesn't make it true. Secondly, what exactly am I denying?

Come on, seriously? You tried to claim Israel wasn't blockading Gaza but that Egypt was.

Thirdly, you have yet to offer definitive proof that I am not a descendant of Aaron and that he did not exist.



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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:04 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:24:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Neither one of us has conclusive evidence to answer the question either way. Deal with it. I can't "win" but neither can you.

Translation: "There's no evidence for any of the bullshit I've been spewing, but my religion blinds me to these inconvenient facts and leaves me trying to rationalise by pretending I don't understand the concept of burden of proof."

You're closed minded because you're incapable of agreeing to disagree with others...

Incorrect. You can't spew rancid garbage and then claim my failure to agree with it makes me closed-minded.

... as evidence by the fact some of the threads you've posted in today started about six months ago.

Fail.

That may be evidence that I'm tenacious, that I have SIWOTI syndrome, or that I like mocking people who are wrong, but my willingness to tell wrong people why they're wrong is not evidence that I would claim they're wrong if they were right.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:07 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:25:19 2014.

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You claim to know what I believe, so why don't you tell me?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:10 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:27:05 2014.

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Israel is a democracy in which many of its citizens are religious and the government recognizes that in establishing the calendar of holidays.

So in other words, it's a theocracy? If a religious majority demanded the imposition of religious dictates, members of minority religions would have no rights of their own?

Why is Israel not allowed such self-determination?

No country should be endorsing any religion, let alone governing according to its dictates. I know you have this habit of saying: "You believe this policy should apply to everyone? WHY ARE YOU PICKING ON ISRAEL??!" but that's just how it is.

I never said anything about killing infidels.

No, but you seem to be joining the OTChat Autism Club what with your failure to understand the obvious but non-literal meaning of my posts.

I was using snark to point out your habit of declaring: "If you call for any change in Israeli government policy, no matter how inconsequential, you are demanding that all of Israel's inhabitants be murdered."

I think you're running away from your own point...

Nope. I've been standing on it all this time watching you dance around it and beat up straw men.

... because you can't bring yourself to admit what you truly want to see in the Middle East.

Here comes your little fantasy world again. You don't have the foggiest idea what I actually believe, but you know I think your religion is bollocks so you assume I must be calling for the extermination of everyone you know via fire-breathing robot.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:12 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 00:27:19 2014.

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What, you're pulling a Terrapin now? You take my post completely literally, accuse me of playing word games when I explain the actual meaning to you, and then you just reflexively deny.

Let me guess, next you'll claim that metaphors are dishonest.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:06:01 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by subfan on Thu Sep 18 00:57:38 2014.

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...and I'm not sure having John Kerry running back and forth between the English and the French trying to make peace would have done any good or made it any shorter.

No, but it not being the 14th century would have helped.

I'm not saying Israel has never done anything wrong or stupid - it absolutely has.

Uh oh. Brace yourself— you're about to be swamped by WMATA angrily denouncing you for demanding Israel's destruction.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 18 01:07:08 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by subfan on Thu Sep 18 00:57:38 2014.

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Agreed, and no worries. It's an in credibly complicated situation and the more times both sides go at it, the more difficult it becomes to reverse it. I fear that it's going to take the Palestinians the need to figure out that their life sucks and find a way to make peace with Israel so they can get on with their lives.

In the greater scheme of things, they could have ISIS running their realm instead of Hamas. They could be doing even worse. :)

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:19:20 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:01 2014.

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I never claimed Israel wasn't blockading Gaza, I claimed that the blockade is legal and that undue attention was being put on Israel's blockade in light of the fact that another country was and still is blockading Gaza yet you and others don't seem to care about that second blockade since Israel isn't behind it.

In the case of Aaron, in light of the evidence that exists indicating that Kohanim are likely descendants of a common ancestor, it is much harder to prove that Aaron is "mythical" on account of your choosing not to believe every word the Bible says. So your cute little comic doesn't really work here.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:19:49 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:04 2014.

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Wrong on all counts. When you grow up, we can continue this discussion.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:20:31 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:10 2014.

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You're a moron.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:21:50 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:06:01 2014.

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More proof you don't read what I write. I'm critical of Israel quite often. Pay attention to what I say if you're going to try having these discussions with us.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 18 02:10:23 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:20:31 2014.

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Lol, yes he is.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 18 08:10:13 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
YOU are dishonest.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 18 08:18:38 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 18 00:16:02 2014.

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Several people have agreed with me in response to your post. Who is agreeing with you?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 18 08:22:05 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 00:06:43 2014.

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Moron. Israel stopped shooting for like 4 years until a few months ago when the rocket attacks got really bad. So like we're saying, only one side needs to stop shooting.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 18 08:26:28 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 23:14:01 2014.

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Probably the Kahane thing. Liberal Jews seem to fear Kahane (killed by an Islamic terrorist) and "Christian Zionists" over the real enemy.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Gamera on Thu Sep 18 09:02:54 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 01:01:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I know you have this habit of saying: "You believe this policy should apply to everyone? WHY ARE YOU PICKING ON ISRAEL??!" but that's just how it is.

So YOU ADMIT that you are picking on Israel!

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 09:36:33 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by subfan on Wed Sep 17 23:50:15 2014.

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OK, Subfan. Thank you.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 09:37:30 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 17 23:46:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
By ignoring be is a sign of disrespect?


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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 10:21:08 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:21:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What in particular are you exactly critical of Israel of?

Oh wait, I forgot, my name is not nilet, so you're going to ignore me.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 18 10:27:01 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 17 22:48:52 2014.

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That Hamas in the West Bank is such a threat to Israel and international aviation that Hamas needs to be eradicated from there.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 10:34:35 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 10:21:08 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I think your unwillingness to read what I write and remember it and then ask me to clarify points I frequently make is far more disrespectful than my "ignoring" your posts.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 10:36:01 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 10:34:35 2014.

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Good morning WMATAGMOAGH, how are you today sir?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 10:37:33 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 18 08:26:28 2014.

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Thank you Olog-hai. You are a mensch.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 12:49:40 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 10:36:01 2014.

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Is it still morning today? I time zone hop like it is no one's business to stay on the LOA, I could be in Chicago today for all you know.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 18 13:05:31 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 10:37:33 2014.

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No, he's not.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 18 13:09:23 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 23:14:01 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why do you treat that schmuck nilet with more respect than me?

Hmm. Stated in response to a post that addressed Nilet as:

You are one closed minded asshole.



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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Sep 18 13:12:43 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 18 13:09:23 2014.

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Hmm. Stated in response to a post that addressed Nilet as: You are one closed minded asshole.

Haha, that still might be more respect than CMM deserves.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 13:55:48 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 18 13:05:31 2014.

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Are you?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 18 13:57:40 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Sep 18 10:27:01 2014.

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That makes ZERO sense.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 18 14:20:25 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 13:55:48 2014.

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Yes.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 14:23:52 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 18 14:20:25 2014.

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All the time?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 18 14:27:37 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 14:23:52 2014.

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One either is or isn't. Olog-hai isn't.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:08 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Gamera on Thu Sep 18 09:02:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I was going to write a lengthy post mocking your stupidity and dishonesty, but then I remembered that you have openly advocated in favour of a second Holocaust to kill Palestinians.

Considering that you support genocide, I bet you genuinely believe that considering Palestinians to be human constitutes "picking on Israel."

Although it's kind of cute that in the midst of WMATA whining that I'm "picking on Israel" by singling them out for special treatment, you jump in and declare that I'm "picking on Israel" by not singling them out for special treatment.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:11 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 18 08:22:05 2014.

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Read the original post in this thread, dumbass. Israel isn't a blameless victim, no matter how much your autistic little world has trouble with shades of gray.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:14 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 18 08:10:13 2014.

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Actually, the metaphors are dishonest thing was something you said. I just quoted it.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:16 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:21:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
More proof that you've joined the OTChat Autism Club— you are not capable of understanding sarcasm.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:20 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Sep 18 10:21:08 2014.

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Here, I'll ask it. :)

WMATA, what in particular are you exactly critical of Israel of?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:23 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:20:31 2014.

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You're a moron.

Translation:

You're right, but I lack the maturity to admit it.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:26 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:19:20 2014.

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I never claimed Israel wasn't blockading Gaza, I claimed that the blockade is legal and that undue attention was being put on Israel's blockade in light of the fact that another country was and still is blockading Gaza yet you and others don't seem to care about that second blockade since Israel isn't behind it.

That would be the nonexistent Egyptian blockade. Thank you for proving my point.

In the case of Aaron, in light of the evidence that exists indicating that Kohanim are likely descendants of a common ancestor...

Here we go again. Yes, everyone shares a common ancestor. That's Biology 101. The fact that we share a common ancestor is not evidence that we are all descended from some dude you just made up.

... it is much harder to prove that Aaron is "mythical" on account of your choosing not to believe every word the Bible says.

Wait a minute, are you claiming that your "evidence" for Aaron's existence is the Bible? Oh you've got to be kidding me.

So your cute little comic doesn't really work here.

This is a classic symptom of religion infection. You claimed that Aaron exists, and when asked for evidence, you said there wasn't any but then asked me to prove he didn't. When the burden of proof was explained to you, your religion simply blinded you to this inconvenient fact.

So I ask again— what's your evidence that this Aaron guy existed?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:29 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 18 01:19:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Now you're just pulling a Terrapin— reflexive denial and projection.

My apologies for treating you like a rational adult. Welcome to the OTChat Autism Club.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Gamera on Thu Sep 18 19:57:15 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 19:30:08 2014.

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GO FUCK YOURSELF



You are a fucking liar who will stop at nothing to "win" your so called argument.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 20:42:23 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Gamera on Thu Sep 18 19:57:15 2014.

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And yet you can't link to any so-called lies. Figures.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 18 20:51:57 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Gamera on Thu Sep 18 19:57:15 2014.

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Even though he loses.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 18 20:57:25 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 18 20:51:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Only in your little fantasy world.

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