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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:17:05 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 23:30:01 2014. Who else's would it be? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:20:22 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:17:05 2014. Your narrow-mindedness betrays you again. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:22:11 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 23:33:18 2014. It's land Israel won in a war, no? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:23:51 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:22:11 2014. No. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:26:18 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:20:22 2014. No, it defines me! Answer the question! |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:28:51 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:26:18 2014. No, it defines me!You got that right! Answer the question! As fun as this is, I do have to go to bed now. I'll get back to you this evening— before sundown, if I can manage it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:29:27 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:23:51 2014. No? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 02:20:27 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 3 08:50:35 2014. pwn3d. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Sep 5 03:34:44 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:22:11 2014. And should keep. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 05:07:47 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:22:11 2014. After being attacked, no less. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 5 07:16:34 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:11:26 2014. You're missing the fundamental point. If you make a claim, you're obliged to support it— it's called burden of proof.That has not stopped you in the past |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 5 08:36:00 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:28:51 2014. Don't worry about it. I don't expect much from you. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 5 08:45:59 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 5 07:16:34 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 5 09:34:16 2014, in response to Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 2 20:44:08 2014. I agree that this timing of this stinks. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 5 10:24:51 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Sep 4 23:31:37 2014. Did you just curse? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 10:45:28 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Sep 5 09:34:16 2014. this timing of this stinks.Eureka! I'm sure the timing was no accident. It came just as many Arab leaders were publicly condemning Hamas for prolonging the conflict. I don't know if these comments made it into the local Arabic language press. However, it's still significant because it exposed divisions within the Palestinian community on how to approach Israel. This division could have been exploited to arrive at some sort of agreement between the parties. The agreement might not have been complete but it could have made life more tolerable for Israelis and Palestinians. Such an agreement might have been reached because the Hamas' strategy was discredited by many Palestinians. The "moderate" (for want of a better term) Palestinians might have risked facing their mobs at this time, if their "moderate" approach showed signs of progress. The timing of Israel's action served to discredit these "moderates." The conflict caused a political power vacuum within the Palestinian community. With which faction does Israel prefer to deal, Hamas or the PA? Israel refuses to negotiate with Hamas but states it would negotiate with the PA. Israel cannot be a disinterested spectator in the coming power struggle to fill the current political vacuum. Its diplomatic actions should be motivated by making the PA the dominant force within the Palestinian community. The PA might actually be able to adhere to agreements, if they were dominant. Israel's action prevented the PA from taking its first baby steps to achieving such domination within the Palestinian community. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 11:07:32 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 5 07:16:34 2014. Correct. Ad nauseam. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 5 11:10:12 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 11:07:32 2014. title cortrected |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Sep 5 13:43:41 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 23:30:01 2014. Where did I say it was "Arab land?"From whom do you allege Israel is stealing it? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 5 16:34:57 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 5 07:16:34 2014. Excellent post |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 5 16:35:55 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 00:11:26 2014. My proof is that the Kohanim of the world appear to be descended from a common ancestor by virtue of extensive blood testing. It doesn't mean that we're descended from Aaron necessarily, it's going to be hard to prove or disprove that either way, but it gives a great deal of credence to my claim. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 5 16:38:34 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 5 10:45:28 2014. Excellent analysis. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 5 16:38:52 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 5 10:24:51 2014. No, I typed three random characters on my keyboard and then put random punctuation after them. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Sep 5 17:06:09 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 5 16:38:52 2014. WMATAGMOAGH made a funny. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:31:59 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Sep 5 16:35:55 2014. My proof is that the Kohanim of the world appear to be descended from a common ancestor by virtue of extensive blood testing.Well sure. As I noted the first time this came up, all life on Earth shares a common ancestor. Being the same species, all humans share a common ancestor fairly recently. It doesn't mean that we're descended from Aaron necessarily, it's going to be hard to prove or disprove that either way, but it gives a great deal of credence to my claim. Seriously? By that argument, I'm descended from William Shakespeare— evolution proves we share a common ancestor, so while that doesn't mean I'm descended from Shakespeare specifically, it's going to be hard to prove or disprove that either way, and it gives a great deal of credence to my claim. In fact, I have (marginally) more of a claim to being descended from Shakespeare, since at least he was real. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:32:12 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 5 07:16:34 2014. Links or it didn't happen. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:32:19 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 5 08:36:00 2014. I don't expect anything from you, but you can still be fun. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:32:50 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:26:18 2014. OK I'm back.My rhetorical question was: Where did I say it was "Arab land?" Your response was: Who else's would it be? I commented on your narrow-mindedness in asking that. You didn't figure it out, but you were very honest about your narrow-mindedness so I'll offer you a serious answer. The West Bank is not "Arab land" or "Jewish land" because the idea that land "belongs" to ethnic groups is at best absurd and obsolete and at worst completely ridiculous. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:03 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Sep 5 00:29:27 2014. No.This isn't the 14th century. You don't get to "win" land in wars. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:15 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Sep 5 13:43:41 2014. The people living on it (or otherwise using it). |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Sep 6 20:23:45 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:32:19 2014. WRONG-O |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Sep 6 20:24:25 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:32:50 2014. LOL! That's not what I meant! pwn3d!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Sep 6 20:26:45 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:03 2014. Yes you certainly do. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Sep 6 20:29:54 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Sep 5 07:16:34 2014. pwn3d |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Sep 6 21:00:44 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:15 2014. They are Arab, no? Duh! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Sep 6 21:07:34 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:31:59 2014. You're an idiot. |
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Posted by Gamera on Sat Sep 6 22:30:00 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:03 2014. This isn't the 14th century. You don't get to "win" land in wars.Wrong Again Nilet. Aggressors don't necessarily get their land back 
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Sep 7 16:14:28 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:31:59 2014. And you claim to be capable of adult conversation?My problem with you (and I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling this way) isn't that you aren't religious, it is that you have no respect for people who are religious or who don't agree with you about other things. You are truly a very disrespectful individual. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Sep 7 16:19:53 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:03 2014. This is the 21st Century and you most definitely do. Does ISIS have to give the land it has conquered back to Iraq and Syria? |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Sep 7 17:40:41 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:33:03 2014. Tell that to Russia and Ukraine, troll. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 7 17:50:09 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Dave on Sun Sep 7 17:40:41 2014. Speaking of that, I noticed that he's gotten bolder with posting on OTChat ever since Putin got more aggressive on the world stage. Coincidence? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 20:52:03 2014, in response to Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 2 20:44:08 2014. I always thought that the real threat was in the West Bank, rather than in Gaza. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Sep 7 21:09:25 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 7 17:50:09 2014. Post hoc ergo propter hoc |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Sep 7 21:18:05 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Sep 7 21:09:25 2014. No, just an observation; not a conclusion. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Sep 8 09:56:05 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Sep 7 21:09:25 2014. See, that is why cortelyounext no longer posts here. :( |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Sep 8 15:08:18 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Sep 6 21:00:44 2014. They are Arab, no?Gush Etzion??? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Sep 8 15:20:20 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Thu Sep 4 23:33:18 2014. RIPTA posted some screed about some hypothetical people claiming that certain parts of the Earth's surface were "Jewish land" and "Arab land." He didn't explain how this was relevant to the topic at hand, which is that Israel is stealing land from a bunch of individual people personally living on it.It's relevant because the "bunch of individual people personally living on it" are Jews in Israeli settlements. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Sep 8 15:35:34 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Sep 7 20:52:03 2014. I always thought that the real threat was in the West Bank, rather than in Gaza.What are you talking about? |
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Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Mon Sep 8 17:17:59 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Sep 8 15:08:18 2014. I think I need more background info on this situation. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Sep 8 21:34:51 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Mon Sep 8 17:17:59 2014. I think I need more background info on this situation.Google is your friend. So is JCPA. |
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