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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 17 14:16:03 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Sep 17 12:25:33 2014.

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He's a mythanthrope.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 17 14:17:21 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 17 13:24:26 2014.

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Sure it wasn't a falling textbook?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 14:20:22 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 17 14:15:11 2014.

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I did not say I agree with him.



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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 17 14:20:39 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 14:10:31 2014.

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But I'm American, and I know what a friend of the US might do to harm that friendship. I would be equally willing to comment on what would happen if the English mistreated Scots living among them.

You seem hell-bent on trying to destroy Israeli-American friendship, and as an American I object strongly to that.



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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 14:22:32 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 14:10:31 2014.

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You know, I thought AlM was Jewish and an MBA and he's neither.

He's an Italian with an Associate's Degree.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 17 14:39:28 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 14:22:32 2014.

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:)

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 14:46:21 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 17 14:15:11 2014.

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iawtlp

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 14:47:13 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 14:20:22 2014.

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Then why won't you counter his arguements?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 14:50:56 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 17 14:20:39 2014.

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Friends that advocate a so=called 2 state solution, who needs enemies.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 14:58:14 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 14:47:13 2014.

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because I'm not going to argue in a thread I know nothing about.

If anyone wants to debate the Glendale Homeless Shelter, please do.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 17 15:00:42 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 17 11:07:10 2014.

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Nice.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 17 15:01:53 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Sep 16 22:39:06 2014.

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But rockets from Gaza can now reach the airport and that's not considered much of a threat at all because Israel has good control of the situation.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 17 15:03:51 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 13:41:59 2014.

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Nilet seems to hold his own vs. many opponents here.

Hold his own? Is that a euphamism for d***-waving?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 17 15:06:49 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 17 11:29:00 2014.

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Pwn3d.

If his writing style is such that his ideas remain a mystery to all other participants, then that's his problem, not ours. I don't see anyone coming forward to better explain his ideas as often happens when other people are misunderstood on occasion. So that's my basis for saying that no one understands what he's taking about, if the meaning is anything other than the plainly obvious literal meaning (which should be the only meaning in an honest debate).

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 17 15:08:19 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by subfan on Wed Sep 17 12:49:00 2014.

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+1

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 17 15:20:09 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 14:22:32 2014.

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A person can have both an Associate's Degree and an MBA.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 17 15:40:11 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 10:38:00 2014.

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Dunno ... but definitely both sides need to first stop shooting at one another, then after that find some way to get along. I've got enough things on my plate right now, so no spare time to try to make friends over there. :)

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by subfan on Wed Sep 17 15:51:06 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 13:41:59 2014.

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If by "hold his own" you mean continue to repeat the same position regardless of contrary facts or arguement, then I suppose that yes, he does hold his own. I'm not sure that's a positive trait, though - I find intellectual honesty much more admirable. I don't ask that he, or anyone else, for that matter, agree with my views - I merely ask that they listen to all the facts with an open mind. As an example, Oren and I disagree on a number of aspects of Israeli policy - but I think he'll give a fair hearing to my views, and hope he feels the same way about the way I'll respond to his.

As to where Nilet received his indoctrination - I honestly haven't a clue, and it really makes no difference to me. He's so clearly off-base there's not much point in trying to figure out why.

subfan

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 17 16:01:39 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 17 15:40:11 2014.

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Fine, please spare us.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 17 16:18:26 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 17 15:40:11 2014.

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Fine, please spare us.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Sep 17 18:50:11 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 17 15:01:53 2014.

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Rockets from Gaza haven't hit the airfield directly, but they have come too close for comfort for Israel to take any chances. The nearest community in the Gaza Strip to Ben Gurion is at least 50-60 miles away.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:00:47 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 17 11:27:18 2014.

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I said nothing of the sort. That's just you retreating into your fantasy world again.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:00:50 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 14:58:14 2014.

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because I'm not going to argue in a thread I know nothing about.

That's a sentiment I really wish the likes of WMATA, Chimmy, and Gamera would take to heart.

To say nothing of GP Chris or Olog.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:00:52 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by kew gardens teleport on Wed Sep 17 12:25:33 2014.

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Explain.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:00:55 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 17 11:30:43 2014.

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I still claim to be a descendant of Aaron.

Thank you for conceding my point— you believe you are descended from someone who did not, in fact, exist.

You can neither prove nor disprove that he was mythical, nor can I prove or disprove that he existed.

That's not how burden of proof works. I've explained this to you before, but because you've been infected with religion, your brain simply shuts down when presented with inconvenient facts to prevent you from noticing the religion's influence on you.

Your claims to call him a mythical figure and to present that as a fact are disrespectful and rude...

Thus proving you have no clue what respect actually means— when you post that I'm "disrespectful and rude," that's not actually you talking, it's the religion reasserting its control over you and closing your mind to inconvenient facts.

...especially due to the evidence that does exist that suggests Aaron may have existed and was not mythical.

If you had any evidence, you'd have posted it by now.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:00:59 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 14:02:20 2014.

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What's to be resolved? They'll continue to be Arabs and they'll continue to be Israeli.

In fact, odds are pretty good that when/if the conflict is resolved, there will be quite a few more Israeli Arabs.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:01:02 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 17 11:25:53 2014.

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So then you concede my point that "right of conquest" is primitive and there is no moral right to retain lands seized through war?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:01:04 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Sep 17 14:10:31 2014.

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Neither are you.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:01:09 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by subfan on Wed Sep 17 15:51:06 2014.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:01:17 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by TerrApin Station on Wed Sep 17 15:06:49 2014.

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Pwn3d.


Queen3d.

If his writing style is such that his ideas remain a mystery to all other participants...

Didn't I warn you about attributing your own mental state to everybody else?

... if the meaning is anything other than the plainly obvious literal meaning (which should be the only meaning in an honest debate).

Well. You're autistic, but at least you're honest about it.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:01:20 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 17 11:29:00 2014.

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I have determined your ideas based on your posts here.

And what, exactly, have you determined my ideas are?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:14:02 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 17 15:40:11 2014.

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Israel extends right of return to Gazans. Gaza empties out because no one likes living in an open air prison. Israel annexes Gaza on the grounds that no one is living there except Hamas die-hards and those don't count.

Israel annexes West Bank and extends Israeli citizenship to everyone living there. Israel offers to make Ramadan et al national holidays (or better yet, remove "national" status from all religious holidays) and extend right of return to anyone who can trace some form of ancestry to that part of the Middle East.

Peace happens. Nutters missing the point in 3... 2... 1...

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 17 19:33:01 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:14:02 2014.

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Wow!

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 20:15:01 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 17 19:33:01 2014.

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Wow what?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Gamera on Wed Sep 17 21:23:41 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:14:02 2014.

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You have GOT to be kidding!!!

You left out the sequel where the new Arab majority controlled government votes to expel all Jews.

We just can't figure out if you are either antisemitic or if you are simply naive about the realities of the world. Either way there is no reasoning with the likes of you



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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by rkba on Wed Sep 17 21:25:48 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Gamera on Wed Sep 17 21:23:41 2014.

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He has an issue with jews.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 21:48:06 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:00:50 2014.

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That's a sentiment I really wish the likes of WMATA, Chimmy, and Gamera would take to heart.

To say nothing of GP Chris or Olog.


+1



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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 17 21:59:12 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 19:00:50 2014.

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Fuck you

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 17 22:02:12 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 20:15:01 2014.

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LOL

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:02:40 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Gamera on Wed Sep 17 21:23:41 2014.

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Ah, here comes one of the nutters. I left some white text for you in that last post, go ahead and highlight it.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 17 22:03:22 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 17 15:40:11 2014.

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You have no idea what you're talking about.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:03:51 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by rkba on Wed Sep 17 21:25:48 2014.

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You're not very bright are you son?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:04:31 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 17 22:02:12 2014.

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Something funny?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 17 22:06:08 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:04:31 2014.

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Yes.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:06:57 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 17 22:06:08 2014.

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Would you like to share?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by rkba on Wed Sep 17 22:07:06 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:03:51 2014.

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Bright like the sun, except when you're blind, it doesn't quite matter, does it?

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:29:21 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by rkba on Wed Sep 17 22:07:06 2014.

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Surprisingly accurate description— like the sun, you burn a lot of energy smashing things together, you're violent and destructive but nice to see at a (very long) distance, and you will eventually explode, shed what useful parts you may have had, and become so dense that not even light can escape your gravitational pull. (OK, I took some liberties with the physics there, whatever.)

Blind, however, is a better description of you since you seem to have ignored the blazingly obvious facts right in front of your face.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by rkba on Wed Sep 17 22:31:56 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:29:21 2014.

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Do you ever realize you're wrong? You're just as bad as Terrapin.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 17 22:33:18 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by rkba on Wed Sep 17 22:31:56 2014.

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Do you ever realize you're wrong?

I was about to ask you the same question.

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Re: Israel Invades West Bank

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Sep 17 22:41:58 2014, in response to Re: Israel Invades West Bank, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 17 21:59:12 2014.

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you admit defeat when you post that.

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