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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 07:15:34 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 06:59:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Resorting to name-calling I see? Another Internet Toughguy.. I had more intelligence when I was in 8th grade than you do now. ALL murder charges are felonious. I think you are getting the PL names and terms confused here. It's a school day so you better run along!

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 07:16:14 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 07:15:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, I'm not, dipshit.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 07:34:32 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 07:16:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Is this how you resort to "winning" debates? By name-calling? Now first, open up the NYS PL, then, run along with your new-found knowledge! The other kids will be so proud of you!

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 07:48:54 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 07:15:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
:)

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 07:50:21 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 07:34:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He already won the debate.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 08:24:17 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 07:11:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Has bingong hijacked your account?


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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 08:27:32 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 07:15:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
ALL murder charges are felonious.

True and quite irrelevant.

I realize I'm spoiling Spider-Pig's fun, but you're really a more interesting poster when you're not in full salaamallah mode.


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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:30:47 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 07:50:21 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Exactly. There is no need to humor that dipshit anymore. What's sad is that he can just google the term I used and be educated, but he refuses.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:32:07 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 08:24:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sadly it turns out that he's the spear bingbong.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:32:50 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 08:27:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's not fun anymore.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:36:53 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 08:24:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do you even KNOW what we're talking about?

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:39:16 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:36:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, he does. You don't. You don't know what you're talking about yourself.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:39:46 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:30:47 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OMG you retard!! It's Murder 2 in New York State!!!!

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:40:31 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 07:50:21 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Actually he didn't. It is Murder 2 degree. This is what I've been saying all along and it's ALWAYS a felony.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:43:49 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 08:27:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which is called Murder 2 in NYS!

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:46:42 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 08:27:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which is called Murder 2 in NYS! And believe me, I'm no Salaam. He seems to be hung up on the TERM felony murder. I'M telling him that in NYS it's called Murder 2 . If he's a lawyer or a cop or somehow otherwise involved in the legal/justice system, he SHOULD know this.
AND if he is harping on the fact that during the comission of another felony, you kill someone, the charge is upped to murder, it's STILL a felony.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:52:25 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:39:16 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do YOU even know what we're talking about?

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:52:57 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:39:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And then when I start using the term "felony murder" again, you're going to deny that it exists. You obviously have some kind of Dan Lawrence disability.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:53:37 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:40:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, it is not what you've been saying all along. You've denied it existed, then you stopped denying it, and now it appears you're trying to deny being wrong all this time.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:55:11 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:43:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There are other elements of second degree murder, none of which have to do with "felony murder."

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:55:40 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:52:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Felony murder is a term to describe a circumstance where the charge becomes Murder 2!! Felony Murder is NOT a specific charge.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:56:24 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:53:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What?!?! Now you sound like Bingbong!

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:56:36 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:46:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's still called "felony murder." That you would consider "felony murder" to be anything but its standard definition just shows you to be an ignorant dipshit. Nothing wrong with being ignorant unless you pretend not to be.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:58:02 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:56:36 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Like yourself I see. You seemed to miss my original point here.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:58:57 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:55:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No shit, but there is NO PL carge of Felony Murder just like there's no charge of Extortion.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:59:08 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:55:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Irrelevant. Felony murder was introduced into this discussion to counter your claim that murder can only be intentional. After days of denying it, you have learned the actual definition, but now you're hilariously trying to pretend your denials never happened.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 09:00:51 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:58:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If you had known that all along, you'd have never responded with "all murders are felonies."

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 09:02:50 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:59:08 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What are you talking about now?? When the original discussion came up in regards to the Ferguson case, YOU brought up felony murder. It had NOTHING to do with that case. P.O. Wilson was NOT commiting a felony which caused Brown to die.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 09:05:58 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 09:00:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Murder 1 and Murder 2 are felonies.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 09:07:43 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:46:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It all goes back to this post.

You claimed that a murder charge required intent to kill, and I disputed that. You've made a huge number of posts dodging the fact that you were in error in your original statement. Wouldn't it have been easier to just say, oh OK, that's true, than to spend dozens of posts claiming you were right?

This kind of behavior makes you look very much like the people you most strongly criticize here.



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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 09:09:37 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:55:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Felony murder is a counterexample to your assertion that a murder charge requires intent to kill.



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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 09:14:28 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 09:02:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I responded to your specific claim that all charges of murder require intention. Nothing more and nothing less. And in any event, your citation of New York State Penal Law is entirely irrelevant for something that happened in Missouri.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 09:30:27 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 09:02:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I hate when people forget what the whole point of the specific discussion was, like you just did. Stop losing sight of what we're discussing and pay attention!

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 09:31:33 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:56:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope. He's been consistent. You however have changed your story.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 09:34:04 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 08:32:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
:(

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 09:36:26 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 09:07:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
IAWTP

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 4 14:25:46 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 08:56:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL! And he has it right!

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Re:What does the The Silence really know? NOTHING

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Sep 4 14:47:34 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does know what happens so he makes stuff up, posted by The Silence on Wed Sep 3 23:55:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Somehow the Silence must be reading alot of bullshit of the KKK propaganda machine on the Web.....but that's OK for him and not for the rest of the sane people of America.

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Re:What does the The Silence really know? NOTHING

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Sep 4 15:02:31 2014, in response to Re:What does the The Silence really know? NOTHING, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Sep 4 14:47:34 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
IAWTP

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:04:33 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 09:14:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which is WHY I said in NYS, not MO.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:05:45 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 09:30:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The specific discussion was Ferguson, MO, NOT the Subchat Asperger's nonsense!

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:12:55 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 4 09:31:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I didn't change anything!

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:14:02 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 09:09:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I was talking about the Ferguson, MO case. This has NOTHING to do with this specific case.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:18:04 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 09:07:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I believe it was mentioned that not all murders are felonies.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 15:26:12 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:18:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Huh? Never by me.

You said murder requires intent. I said not always. You've been spending 50 posts sounding like salaam when all I did was point out a minor error in your analysis.



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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 15:34:42 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:04:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And you were wrong.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 4 15:36:54 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:14:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You stated, without qualification, that in NYS murder requires intent to kill. You were wrong. It has nothing to do with why you posted that.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 4 16:10:44 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:05:45 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d


The specific discussion was Ferguson, MO, NOT the Subchat Asperger's nonsense!
No, the specific discussion was your specific claim that all charges of murder require intention. Nothing more and nothing less.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Sep 4 16:11:19 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 4 15:12:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes you did. Spider-pig has told you about it several times.

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Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Sep 5 08:15:02 2014, in response to Re: Salaam does not know what ''murder'' and ''Cold Blood'' mean, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 4 15:26:12 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I was stating in reference to the police incidents.

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