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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:08:39 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:40:29 2014. Don't lie, now. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:09:27 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:40:29 2014. PS. You are now a heretic. I'm sure you'll never tell your rabbi, though. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:10:39 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:38:01 2014. No, because the rabbis are not the authority. Unless you're trying to turn Judaism into Roman Catholicism?Don't talk to others about reading comprehension when you haven't grasped it yourself, Terrapin Heretic. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:11:07 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by subfan on Wed Jul 30 21:22:36 2014. Meaningless. The rabbis are not the authority; the Scripture is. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:24:28 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:08:02 2014. You're wrong. And why would I know something that's wrong? It's inconceivable. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:25:16 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:08:39 2014. I don't always lie, but when I do, it's spectacular. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:27:44 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:09:27 2014. PS. You are now a heretic. I'm sure you'll never tell your rabbi, though.HANUKKAH (WHY DON'T YOU MEET MY RABBI) HANUKKAH (HE ISN'T SUCH A BAD GUY) HANUKKAH (IT WOULDN'T BE A BUMMER) HANUKKAH (IF YOU WANT TO WEAR YARMULKE) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:29:05 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:10:39 2014. THANK GOD FOR MOM AND DADFOR TEACHING JEWISH CULTURE 'CAUSE WE ARE SO PROUD (L'CHAIM) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:30:05 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:11:07 2014. AND WHAT THEY SAY IS "WE'RE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE"THEN WHAT MAKES, WHAT MAKES, WHAT MAKES, WHAT MAKES US THE EXCEPTION? DON'T KNOW WHY, KNOW WHY O-Y, O-Y, O-Y (OY!) RUN AND CALL YOUR RABBI SO THAT YOU CAN CELEBRATE THIS YEAR |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:32:37 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:17:51 2014. In light of her limited mental capacity, your explicit statement was, to her, the equivalent of an inference. She had a 50/50 shot of getting it right and she got it wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:32:47 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:57:34 2014. bump |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:33:15 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:16:51 2014. Super duper! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:35:18 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 14:03:34 2014. Yes, with the conditions I noted. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:40:12 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:30:05 2014. You need a louder amplifier. To hear yourself, that is. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:40:54 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 14:08:06 2014. Because people should not have to constantly live in fear of rockets. Because people should not have to constantly disrupt their lives to run to bomb shelters as flying death sticks fall around them. Because one civilian death is one too many. Because G-d requires that we do everything in our natural power to help ourselves, even if He is planning some supernatural help, which thank G-d He has done plenty of since Israel's founding. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:42:31 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 30 19:23:59 2014. Unlike you, many of the rest of us actually know each other in real life. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:43:49 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:29:05 2014. You got sent over the edge, eh? Not my problem. Reworks of Outkast songs don't make a point either. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:45:05 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:24:28 2014. LOL! No, I'm not wrong. It's historical fact and Spider-Nazi lied. You need someone to LMGTFY or something? Look it up, heretic. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:46:27 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:08:12 2014. +613 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 08:50:07 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 22:21:53 2014. That wouldn't be a problem if there were a guaranteed minimum income that would provide enough to live. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:55:52 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:40:12 2014. That song rocks. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:56:10 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:43:49 2014. No, I got sent to the internets for the lyrics. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:59:53 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:45:05 2014. If being a heretic is this delicious then pour me more Lucky Charms! |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 31 09:05:37 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:59:53 2014. LOL magically delicious!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 09:16:16 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 31 09:05:37 2014. And sinfully unkosher. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 09:40:22 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:59:53 2014. Your choice, Streetcarterrapin. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:27:15 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:58:32 2014. Yes he did. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:30:35 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:32:37 2014. Protip: Use a mirror when discussing limited metal capacity. Mine is just fine. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:32:45 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 08:42:31 2014. Regrettably, in certain cases. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:34:19 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 08:50:07 2014. Which there should be. A realistic minimum wage. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 11:15:46 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:34:19 2014. I disagree and think that a guaranteed minimum income through a negative income tax should be used instead of a minimum wage. Consequently, the minimum wage should be abolished. The minimum wage requires private actors to unilaterally subsidize the government's social goals.Since that isn't going to happen any time soon, for now, the minimum wage ought to be raised. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 11:25:35 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 11:15:46 2014. The minimum wage is one of the important supports FOR a private economy. Were it not for what should be a guaranteed living wage through law, the outcry to socialize and ensure a living wage would be tremendous.It should be preserved and brought up a level where it produces the ability to support oneself minimally....food, shelter, clothing. If brought to that level nationally, it can be modified to reflect actual living costs in a state or locality. Full time work should enable one to survive. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 11:44:42 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 11:25:35 2014. The minimum wage is one of the important supports FOR a private economy. Were it not for what should be a guaranteed living wage through law, the outcry to socialize and ensure a living wage would be tremendous.A guaranteed minimum income makes that moot. People would be able to live without work. This would make low wage jobs impossible as no one would bother to take them. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 12:08:32 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 11:44:42 2014. Wasn't talking about that. Of course nobody would take a job that provides less than what you mentioned about a minimum income. However, if work provided for a better living above the minimum, it would be attractive.That's the biggest problem with the existing welfare reform. It does not provide a reward for work, it takes needed benefits (especially in the first months of returning to work, when needs for what might be considered options such as a sufficient wardrobe are acute and unrecognized) away too quickly. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 12:11:14 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 12:08:32 2014. Wasn't talking about that. Of course nobody would take a job that provides less than what you mentioned about a minimum income. However, if work provided for a better living above the minimum, it would be attractive.Exactly. A guaranteed minimum income would keep wages up for jobs that need to be done, but it would not disincentivize taking a job. The income payment would be diminished, but by less than the amount of the wage. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 12:12:24 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 12:11:14 2014. It would have to be. Or at least deferred to enable one to "catch up" financially. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 31 12:14:51 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 12:12:24 2014. What do you mean? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 13:51:02 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 09:40:22 2014. Nope. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 13:55:30 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:27:15 2014. No he didn't. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 13:56:03 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:30:35 2014. You're the one who is seeing white when black is written. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 13:56:26 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:32:45 2014. You only have yourself to blame for that. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 31 14:55:39 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 31 09:05:37 2014. I think I'll trust Warwick Davis more than that leprechaun! :-) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 31 15:19:27 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 11:25:35 2014. You personally don't need a minimum wage. You're way too nice to pay anyone below minimum wage. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 15:43:15 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 10:27:15 2014. He id, you know it and o oes he. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 31 15:45:33 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 31 13:56:26 2014. The only thing I have to blame myself for is responding to you. So I won't any longer. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 16:11:42 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 20:00:54 2014. The two that openly call themselves by "Chris". They aren't the same person. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 31 16:21:01 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 16:11:42 2014. Really? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 16:25:08 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 31 16:21:01 2014. Don't they have two different screen names?If I registered with a username calling myself "Chris" in there (e.g. "GG1 Chris"), would you mistake me for them as well? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 31 18:01:15 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 31 15:19:27 2014. But many others do ... sometimes you fight on behalf of other people. |
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Posted by subfan on Thu Jul 31 18:17:28 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:10:39 2014. Not quite. You questioned someone's bona fides as an Orthodox Jew based on a comment regarding the literal accuracy of Hebrew Scripture. While Judaism doesn't follow the Catholic model of having a single absolute authority, there is significant weight given to the views of the great Rabbis and religious scholars throughout Jewish history - including when such authorities gave non-literal explanations of Scripture. As such, the individual in question's comments in no way harm his claim to be Orthodox.FYI, there are groups that follow a much more literal reading of Scripture. These include the Samaritans, a tiny but ancient sect that lives primarily in modern-day Nablus (near Mt. Grezim) and the Israeli city of Holon, south of Tel Aviv, and ythe Karaites, a group that lived alongside many more "traditional" Jewish communities through history. Their views, though, are far from Jewish Orthodoxy. subfan |
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