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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 17:30:19 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:25:55 2014. That was not anything I said, why are you attriuting your lies to me? You reallyare an asshole. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:38:51 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 17:30:19 2014. I didn't attribute it to you. I was usung you as an example for posting bullshit without proof which is just the type of "journalism" that you engage in. For exampleBMW will leave South Carolina because the work force is under-educated and untrainable - or- Conscription is mentioned in the constitution - or Kermit Gosnell did nothing wrong - or George Zimmerman will be convicted. Why are you always wrong, bingbong? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 17:40:25 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:23:25 2014. I was, :) you just weren't ready. Try Again. You get a 2nd shot. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 17:41:14 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:38:51 2014. What you did was lie attempting to attributw your lie on me. Admit your lies. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:42:16 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 17:40:25 2014. Sorry Chris. No second shot necessary. Roach powder seems sufficient |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:43:10 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 17:41:14 2014. Learn to read. and your grammar sucks too |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:00:02 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:21:21 2014. Yes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:03:01 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 13:07:02 2014. I can't answer the question phrased that way.I am not aware of evidence of any sentient being which has control over the laws of the universe. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:04:29 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 13:46:09 2014. Of course, if the EITC did not require income from work, this wouldn't be a problem. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:05:14 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:04:29 2014. In other words, that a half-assed implementation of a negative income tax has some problems doesn't mean that a whole-assed implementation would have the same problems. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:08:12 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 16:00:13 2014. LOL! It doesn't mean any of that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:16:51 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:53:42 2014. Yes, it is. It's not total fiction. Some of it is absolutely true. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:17:51 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 30 13:55:57 2014. Especially since there was no such inference, while two posts up was an explicit statement saying otherwise, with no need for inference. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 18:31:35 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 10:24:54 2014. That practice needs to be restored. :) |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 18:35:45 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:42:16 2014. You are getting up on the age so I'll forgive it as simply grandpa off his medication. |
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Posted by subfan on Wed Jul 30 18:36:57 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 16:04:03 2014. That's actually not accurate. A large number of medieval Jewish scholars took tat view, so while not the more common interpretation, it is considered to be within the pale of acceptable Orthodoxy. Orthodox Jewish philosophy is not monolithic, particularly with respect to issues like this.subfan |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 18:38:59 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 16:00:13 2014. Put down your "Elders of Zion" for a minute and try to follow along. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 18:48:19 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:43:10 2014. I read what you wrote just fine. Do not attribute to or use me as your rationale for your lying. Obviously you are nowhere near being a man as you hide behind others with yourlies. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 18:55:05 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:04:29 2014. If there was no EITC, employers would have to pay a living wage istead of pawning off a tax reund as a bonus. Which BTW, never came close in overall value (wages, actual cost of benefits &EITC) to what that bank was paying me to work effectively 30 hours a week over a year (quarterly deadlines meant a lot of overtime in a compressed period 4 times a year) with no "benefits". |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:14:49 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 30 14:34:23 2014. Zionism is a secular movement, it has been from day one. Things like religious Zionism are offshoots. Theodor Herzl was an atheist. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:18:06 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 15:56:55 2014. LOL! The Quran is even more fictional. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:18:40 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 15:58:43 2014. So now you get your beliefs from Hamas? That explains a lot. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 19:22:12 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by subfan on Wed Jul 30 18:36:57 2014. The "medieval Jewish scholars" are not the ones that formed the state of Israel. There are those that use the term "orthodox" but are not, don't forget. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 30 19:23:59 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:42:16 2014. His name is Chris? So there are three Chris' on Subchat. Didn't know that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:25:43 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 18:55:05 2014. And if there were a true negative income tax, they'd also have to pay well enough. Although it wouldn't necessarily have to be a "living wage" and it wouldn't matter. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 20:00:54 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 30 19:23:59 2014. Who are the other 2? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 20:19:21 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 30 19:23:59 2014. and his name is Steve, and whats yours? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 20:19:40 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 20:00:54 2014. Really? You really don't know the other 2? LOL |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 20:42:12 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:25:43 2014. EITC never pays enough to live off. It's a sizable bonus and probably helps when spread out over a year, but a $4k -ish lump sum is not a year's living. |
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Posted by subfan on Wed Jul 30 21:22:36 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 19:22:12 2014. That is irrelevant to the point I was making, or the comment of yours to which I was responding. You raised a theological/philosophical point re: the literal accuracy of the Hebrew Bible and the view on such matter in Orthodox Judaism. I merely pointed out that your argument, while the position of the majority of Orthodox philosophers, is by no means universal.As to the founders of the modern State of Israel - they quite spanned the spectrum, from atheistic socialists to fervently Orthodox Religious Zionists. subfan |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 21:33:04 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 20:42:12 2014. Of course it's not. That's why it's "half-assed." In fact, I never should have played along with your claim about the EITC. The EITC is entirely irrelevant to discussion of a negative income tax. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 30 21:43:26 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 30 20:19:40 2014. OK, Chris I and Chris II. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 22:21:53 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 21:33:04 2014. It's actually as close as it gets. I agree it's half-assed. It also has been the number one reason why low end wages are so depressed. Employers know that working poor can get money elsewhere. Walmart telling their employees where to get government assistance is no myth. They rely on those programs to subsidize their employees instead of paying a living wage. S the taxpayers end up effectively subsidizing the billionaire owners of these companies while employees scrounge. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 30 22:38:26 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 09:42:42 2014. How do you know that's what they're saying? LOLyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 22:39:54 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 30 22:38:26 2014. He stayed at a Holiday Inn. :) |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 23:13:59 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:25:55 2014. Eh, "Iron Dome Ineffective" would have yielded a wealth of information faster than I could provide it. But the Bulletin of Atomic Sciences provided the initial information that the system is not a particularly effective anti-missile system. Foreign Policy In Focus fleshes out some of the details and highlights some of the other issues. Another expert on weapons systems at MIT concludes that the system is ineffective in the MIT Technology Review.Essentially the problem is the same as was encountered by the Patriot PAC-2 system in 1991. The PAC-2 attacked the target with the largest radar return, and frequently struck the spent SCUD rocket stage rather than the smaller, already detached warhead. In the same way the Iron Dome interceptor missile is fused such that a shaped charge launches in a cone around the interceptor, striking the rocket microseconds after the fuse detects its target. But in those few microseconds the target rocket moves its warhead past the cone into which the shaped charge detonates and the interceptor's warhead is wasted on the spent solid rocket stage of the rocket. The experts generally agree that Israel's casualties, or lack thereof, are attributable to their extensive civil defense force and large number of air raid shelters. They've already rendered Hamas' rockets useless, so there's no need to physically destroy those weapons on the ground. |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 23:14:30 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 30 15:42:19 2014. Except it doesn't. |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 23:15:06 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jul 30 14:47:43 2014. False. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 30 23:35:13 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 09:37:41 2014. You don't really believe that talking point do you? I mean it's seriously flawed.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 31 02:45:35 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 30 22:39:54 2014. lol |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 31 02:55:01 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 23:15:06 2014. The question still stands: if somebody is shooting at you with intent to kill, but has been largely missing you so far, would you ignore the person, or force the person to stop shooting at you? |
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Posted by Gamera on Thu Jul 31 06:43:30 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 23:13:59 2014. The experts generally agree that Israel's casualties, or lack thereof, are attributable to their extensive civil defense force and large number of air raid shelters.So it is ok with you for the Israelis to constantly have to run to air raid shelters. Nobody should have to tolerate that. Israel needs to find and destroy every single Hamas rocket! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 07:07:34 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by WillD on Wed Jul 30 23:13:59 2014. LOL "the experts". You really are quite the hatemonger, aren't you?I'd even guess you'd have a justification for the UN being led by a Nazi in the 1970s. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:38:01 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by subfan on Wed Jul 30 21:22:36 2014. Pwn3d!!!!!!!!!!!!&ĦĦĦ |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:38:58 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 18:00:02 2014. Thank you. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:40:29 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 30 16:04:03 2014. I have made no claims on that matter and offered no guarantees, except that I am at least 98% correct at least 94% of the time. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:43:08 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 30 19:14:49 2014. Owned. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:57:35 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 30 17:38:51 2014. You were away so don't forget her "VW will not build an SUV at the TN plant because of the vote not to unionize." I told her that was faulty logic and she ignored me. Well sure enough it was announced last week that they were still going to build the SUV there! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:58:32 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 30 17:41:14 2014. He did no such thing. Reading comprehension 101. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 31 08:08:02 2014, in response to Re: US fuming over Israeli criticism of Kerry, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 31 07:43:08 2014. No, Mr. Self-Hater. You never heard of rabbis such as Abraham Isaac Kook, contemporary of Herzl, or Zvi Hirsch Kalischer, who predated Herzl, and without whose impetus "political Zionism" wouldn't even have survived? Therefore, religious Zionism came before the secular version. Thought you'd have known that? |
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