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"I didn't know you were Jewish"?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 11:32:37 2014

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Forget my grammar. I don't have an MBA like some people here.

So I ran into a Christian couple from Brazil who I know to be Christians. "Christians", as in La Iglesia do Cielo or something like that.

So I was surprised when I saw the woman were a Star of David on her chain and said, "I didn't know you were Jewish".

She said, "I'm not Jewish. But my Lord my savior Jesus Christ was Jewish, so I wear this".



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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:33:27 2014, in response to "I didn't know you were Jewish"?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 11:32:37 2014.

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Who has an MBA here and what does an MBA have to do with grammar? Or is an MBA the only graduate degree you know of?

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 12:25:03 2014, in response to "I didn't know you were Jewish"?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 11:32:37 2014.

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Allegedly, shortly after World War I, there was an incident of a Spanish Roman Catholic priest somewhere in Yugoslavia being mistaken by the local population for being Jewish because they thought he was speaking Ladino.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 12:31:28 2014, in response to "I didn't know you were Jewish"?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 11:32:37 2014.

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Christianity is based on Judaism.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 12:47:32 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 12:31:28 2014.

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FALSE!

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 12:54:37 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 12:31:28 2014.

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Specifically, Christianity is derived from the Torah plus a compilation of Torah fan fiction called the New Testament.

I mean, the Torah promises a messiah to the Jewish people but never actually delivers. Even thousands of years ago, an anticlimactic ending like that will persuade fans to write fix fic to make the guy actually show up.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 12:54:39 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 12:47:32 2014.

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OK, than what's its based on? They honor the 10 commandments, the old testament is basically the Torah,. Jesus Christ was a Jew.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 13:00:45 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 12:54:39 2014.

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They do not honor the Ten Commandments. For one thing they do not honor the Sabbath.
The Old Testament is not the same as the Torah. You apparently don't know what one of those things is, or both.
That Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew is irrelevant. He didn't found the Christian religion in any event.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 13:17:06 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Nilet on Sun Jul 20 12:54:37 2014.

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+1

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 13:18:00 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 11:33:27 2014.

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thanks for attacking me personally and not addressing the kind of crackpot christianity on the loose in Rego Parkistan and all over America.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jul 20 14:05:30 2014, in response to "I didn't know you were Jewish"?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 11:32:37 2014.

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So?

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 14:05:40 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 12:31:28 2014.

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Or is it based on Samaritanism? Acts 7.15-16 is particularly curious.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 16:14:00 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 13:18:00 2014.

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How is that "crackpot Christianity?"

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 16:42:23 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 14:05:40 2014.

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He doesn't know what that is. He probably thinks that Samaritans were all good.

That's why I think the lesson of the parable of the Good Samaritan is lost. They need a new expression. I use "Good Palestinian."

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 16:51:39 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jul 20 14:05:30 2014.

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you don't think it's stupid for a Christian to wear Star of David for that reason?

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 16:56:13 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 16:14:00 2014.

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because it's a stupid reason to wear a Star of David.

the same people who troll Olog-hai for saying he's Jewish find nothing wrong with a Christian wearing a Star of David.

She's Brazilian and then stated she wanted Germany to beat Argentina because Argentinians "think they're a superior race". Huh? And Germany has not demonstrated a sense of superiority in the last 100 years?

This is the kind of conversation that takes place in Rego Parkistan.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by kew gardens teleport on Sun Jul 20 17:00:10 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 16:42:23 2014.

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That's why I think the lesson of the parable of the Good Samaritan is lost. They need a new expression. I use "Good Palestinian."

I quite like Luke's structure of a son of Aaron, a son of Levi, and someone who is at least a son of Jacob (even though Luke's original audience would rather he wasn't).

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jul 20 17:04:41 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 16:51:39 2014.

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No, it doesn't bother me at all.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 17:18:15 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jul 20 17:04:41 2014.

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me either.

i just think these "christians" are idiot.

like "Jews for Jesus".

it's odd shit.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 17:41:28 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 20 16:56:13 2014.

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Olog-hai has never called himself Jewish.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:45:04 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 13:00:45 2014.

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Sadly ignorant post, particularly the first line and the third.

If things were reversed, that would be extremely antisemitic. :(

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 19:04:46 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:45:04 2014.

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How is it ignorant?

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jul 20 19:16:51 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:45:04 2014.

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Who me, or Mr. Pig?

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:42:02 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 19:04:46 2014.

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Because the ten commandments are the core of the Christian religion as well, the only difference being that IF you stop sinning, then you are forgiven for your past offenses because that was the whole point of Jesus dying on the cross to take away the penalties of those sins so long as you stop. Secondly, honoring the Sabbath might be a different day of the week (because the seventh day is counted differently and then they screwed up the calendar) but it's supposed to be kept every bit as holy (except for retailers). In that particular statement, you seem to be implying that Christians are godless and that's insulting.

Then there's the "didn't found" bit ... His intention was to modify Judaism and not necessarily build a church, but Christians DO accept him as the Moschiach which was promised in the Torah. So I found that comment dismissive. Now I understand the difference between Judaism and Christianity in all of those arguments, but like I said if I were to write out the reverse of those statements, I'd be instantly pinned as a rabid antisemite for questioning any of that. Just wanted to make that point, that's all.

That all said, I don't take any of this too seriously ...

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:43:34 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Jul 20 19:16:51 2014.

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Mr. Pig ... hopefully I just explained why. I really don't take this too seriously but there are some here who insist on taking ME way too seriously so had an opportunity here to point out why I feel that way.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 19:53:03 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:42:02 2014.

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But there are more than Ten Commandments. Do you follow all 613?

And no, you don't observe the Sabbath, which is still Saturday. Sunday is the Lord's Day. Sorry if I implied that you were Godless. That was not my intention.

Jesus did not abandon Judaism. It was his successors who brought Christianity to the Gentiles.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 19:53:08 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:43:34 2014.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 19:53:35 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 19:53:08 2014.

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Oink

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:58:16 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 19:53:03 2014.

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Well I know Mel Brooks lost 5 of them, but no ... only ten on our side, makes for fewer arguments. :)

And no worries. I don't question your religion, be nice if mine weren't up for debate either ... that was the only point I was trying to make.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 19:58:32 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 19:53:35 2014.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 20:03:19 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 19:58:32 2014.

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THAT'S the spirit, guys! :)



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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 20:04:28 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:58:16 2014.

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I don't have a problem with people questioning my religion. I question my religion.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 20:12:00 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 20:04:28 2014.

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???

Do you question your current religious beliefs, or those you had at a younger age, or both?



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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 20:22:01 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 20:04:28 2014.

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You're at least reasonable about it. And like I said, no worries, just wanted to make a point for some of the other folks here. I tend to reply to one person and then throw in other things so I don't have to reply to all. :)

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 20:22:04 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by AlM on Sun Jul 20 20:12:00 2014.

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Both.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 23:21:36 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 17:41:28 2014.

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pwn3d

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 23:24:00 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 20:04:28 2014.

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Jews are supposed to question their religion. Like all the time.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 23:24:31 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 19:42:02 2014.

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Huh??????????????? You already ARE an anti-Semite. That's well known.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 23:24:57 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 20 13:00:45 2014.

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pwn3d

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 23:28:51 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 23:24:31 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Tell ya what ... convert to Buddhism and I'd still think you're a schmuck.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 20 23:30:43 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 20 23:24:57 2014.

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It's not all true. Ever research it, Terrapin Nilet?

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 20 23:36:20 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Jul 20 12:54:39 2014.

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What Christians call the "Old Testament" is essentially the Tanakh (Torah plus Neviim plus Ketuvim). In the case of the Protestants, only the books of the Masoretic Tanakh are included; the Catholics include certain books from the Greek version, which don't appear in the Tanakh.

The matter of observing the Sabbath is still a matter of large controversy. There is no Biblical command to observe the day after the Sabbath, but it was instead imposed by people like Constantine, and further imposed non-Biblically by the Synod of Laodicea.

Jesus was both a Jew and the founder of the original Christian religion, which observed not only the seventh-day Sabbath but also all the festivals in the Torah (e.g. Passover instead of "Easter", and the rest). The Catholic Church was/is a Roman Empire-sanctioned counterfeit, which rejected even what the Apostles (mostly Jewish) taught.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 21 00:10:51 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 20 23:30:43 2014.

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Yes. Thou shalt not use my name in vain, homey.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 21 00:11:24 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 23:28:51 2014.

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No, you'd still be an anti-Semite.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 21 00:25:31 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Jul 21 00:11:24 2014.

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And you'd still be a putz.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 21 01:19:24 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 20 18:45:04 2014.

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You are squeezing water from a rock with him.

its HIS JOB to twist ..distort..the truth.

hes a "liberal humanist"..

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 21 01:33:51 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 21 01:19:24 2014.

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We still have some respect for each other, so no worries there for me. I really prefer to avoid discussions of religion, because it's been responsible for more misunderstandings and battles than politics.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 21 02:23:59 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 21 01:33:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I really prefer to avoid discussions of religion,

because they're threads you'd lose.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 21 02:31:48 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 21 01:33:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
yup..

my thing is... "religion" is the reason WHY there is so much misunderstanding..

"religion" has taken on a life of its own..and often the FOCUS isn't about our Creator,but something entirely different.

best to leave well enough alone..but i will say this..
I cannot sit by and watch an "atheist",someone who has no faith except in himself[and his master] tell others about "Christianity"..
it just doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 21 02:32:32 2014, in response to Re: ''I didn't know you were Jewish''?, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jul 21 02:23:59 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Seems everybody loses.

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