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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by nyctransitman on Sat Jan 21 13:10:27 2017, in response to Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by gold_12th on Fri Jan 20 16:25:51 2017. The Q52 route extension is not exactly what the Rockaway community had asked for as the community wanted the Q52 route extended all the way to Far Rockaway - Mott Avenue. Another big disappointment!!! |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat Jan 28 13:49:15 2017, in response to Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by gold_12th on Fri Jan 20 16:25:51 2017. Do you know what the planned routing and stops of the extension? Thanks. |
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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat Jan 28 15:41:21 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by nyctransitman on Sat Jan 21 13:10:27 2017. I don't know what the problem is extending transportation to Mott Avenue. Went through the same thing with the complimentary shuttle bus for the city-wide ferry service. Their initial plan was to have the ferry go as far as Beach 67th St. Here we again. After raising hell, they finally extended it to Beach 35th street, not to Mott Avenue. |
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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Jan 28 16:15:32 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat Jan 28 13:49:15 2017. A map is contained in the appropriate section of this file.East/southbound: Continue on Rockaway Beach Blvd to Beach 62nd, then shift to Arverne Blvd to go to Beach 54th. Up to Beach Channel Drive to terminate. West/northbound: Start up at Beach Channel Drive and Beach 54th, use Beach 59th to get over to Rockaway Beach Blvd to join existing route. Seems the concern is to completely encircle the apartments in question and maybe to serve Beach 60th St station (though who would want to change from the Q52 to the A there)? Interestingly, if the Q52 ever does get extended to Mott Av, there may still be lack of uniformity with the Q22 as they have clearly doubled down on having the two routes at variance with each other, even along their existing spans, much like the Q22 and Q35. I guess having two routes running parallel to each other continues to be the preferred practice on the peninsula, rather than having them together. |
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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Jan 28 16:18:16 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat Jan 28 15:41:21 2017. I haven't been around the area lately but there sure seem to be plenty of residents that still stand to benefit from this humble extension. They would also be riders without first choice of seat if the bus came from Mott Av.And as I said in a different reply, it seems that the current thinking is not to have the Q52 and Q22 work together. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Jan 29 07:58:29 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Jan 28 16:15:32 2017. Thank you so much for the information. As far as the routing and stops on Beach 59th and Beach 54th Street that was done to serve several apartment complexes. At Beach 54th Street, you have the Ocean Bay Apartments and two smaller NYCHA apartment buildings. At Beach 59th Street you have Arverne View Apartments, Nordeck Co-ops, Waters Edge Condominiums and private homes as well as the easternmost part of Arverne by the Sea (Beach 62nd Street).Furthermore, Beach 59th Street is the only access to the "swimming" beach in that area. Beach 67th Street beach access is for surfing and sun bathing only. |
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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Jan 29 08:51:37 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Jan 28 16:18:16 2017. You're probably right about them not wanting the Q22 and Q52 working together, which is ignorant on their part if that's the case. The Q52 would not have to follow the Q22 route to Mott Avenue. It could follow the old Q21A route by taking Beach Channel Drive straight to Mott Avenue. The bay ends at Bay 32nd Street meaning that part of Far Rockaway is part of the mainland. There is absolutely no bus service north of the subway tracks from Bay 32nd Street to Mott Avenue. In fact, at Beach 25th Street station, the Q22 is several blocks south. That community could definitely use the bus service. |
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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 29 09:18:43 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Jan 29 08:51:37 2017. I'm interested to see the way this goes. I doubt that they are finished tinkering with the Q52/53 and related Woodhaven Blvd routes.If Woodside to Rockaway Park works as a service, then I'm sure Elmhurst to Far Rockaway is a distinct possibility, assuming Woodside to Far Rockaway is just too much for reliability concerns. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Jan 29 11:02:39 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 29 09:18:43 2017. I think you're right about the tinkering with the routes. AFAIK, the plan is to keep the Q52 originating at Elmhurst. I hope it stays that way. Sending it to Woodside would be a disaster. Time will tell. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Jan 29 11:29:29 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Jan 29 08:51:37 2017. They could even have it cover some of the old Q22A route in Bayswater (I know it was just a trip each way). Go up Bay 32nd/Beach 32nd/Norton Drive to Bayswater Avenue and continue down to the Far Rockaway station.BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, but the old Q22A wasn't operated as a loop route was it? In the morning, the 8:03AM trip terminated at Mott/Dunbar, and the 2:52PM trip (I believe it was) began at Mott/Dunbar and headed back to the (A). You couldn't ride around the loop from Far Rockaway to Mott/Dunbar and back, could you? |
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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Jan 29 12:31:10 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun Jan 29 11:29:29 2017. You're speaking my language as far as routing the Q52 thru Bayswater, but that will never happen.I can't answer your question about riding the Q22A. What I can tell you is that when I moved out here in the '70s, the Q22A ran Monday through Friday from approximately 6:00 am to 7:00 pm. It's bus stop was right in front of the Thriftway Drug Store along with the Q21A and a 3rd bus line. I think the third bus line was operated Peninsula Bus Company. |
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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by nyctransitman on Sun Jan 29 23:44:20 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 29 09:18:43 2017. How about alternate buses another words some Q53 bus terminate at Elmhurst and some Q52 buses terminate at Woodside. This would gave Q52 passengers access to other bus connections such as to the Q70SBS. I would also like to see all Q52 and Q53 buses travel up 63rd Drive to serve the Rego Park Shopping Center (sears/Bed Bath etc.). These two bus routes could then take Junction Blvd. (stopping near to the Century 21/Costco Shopping Center) then take to 57th Avenue (w/b)/59th Avenue (e/b) back to queens Center in Elmhurst. It would also be a faster bus to subway connection at the 63rd drive Subway Station as less walking would be required. The current Woodhaven Blvd. Slattery Plaza Subway Station has much walking to access the subway platform then at the 63rd Drive Station. |
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Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 30 08:17:48 2017, in response to Re: Spring 2017: M79 SBS and Q52 new southbound extension, posted by nyctransitman on Sun Jan 29 23:44:20 2017. What if Woodside was served by the Q11/21? The Q52/53 are long enough even ending at Elmhurst. Do people still take the Q53 from end to end?Overnight, however, there may be more of a need for the Q53 to be as long as it is, but that's a universal situation that longer-distance runs are preferable at night when buses are infrequent and there isn't much traffic. Also, not sure of the union / depot issues with replacing an ex-Triboro segment with an ex-GBL route. |
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