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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 09:39:44 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 09:38:49 2016. Correction: delete "and then the car driver has to trust. . ." |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:16:47 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 26 14:18:18 2016. Because they thought they could save a couple of seconds by cutting me off. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:21:44 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Sep 26 15:46:05 2016. How do those words admit any guilt? It's the first pedestrian who was the most guilty party by not allowing me to complete my turn and causing me to hit the brakes and block the sidewalk.How thick are you that you can't see that? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:23:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Sep 26 15:48:31 2016. I wouldn't call the people who reply on this board, everyone.Many just read and don't bother replying. You have know way of knowing if those agree with me or not. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:25:02 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by AlM on Mon Sep 26 15:53:52 2016. It's because you don't want to know.It was clearly explained here: http://www.subchat.com/buschat/read.asp?Id=318545 |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:28:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Mon Sep 26 15:54:10 2016. The pedestrian did not have the right of way because he did not step into the crosswalk as I was turning and when he did started crossing, he was outside the crosswalk.I think I have stated that like ten times now, but you just keep insisting he was in the crosswalk and that I cut him off, neither of which us true. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:28:19 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Sep 26 16:57:45 2016. Correct. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:35:48 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Sep 26 16:27:41 2016. I aporeciate what you said, and so far you have come the closest to admit I was correct.We only have one point of disagreement. You would have accelerated immediately to 25 mph while I decided to do that slowly and after I left the crowd of pedestrians. Someone stated that in midtown you should be ready to expect anything and that was exactly what I was doing. I didn't want to take the chance that someone would step out in front of me and at the same time I was encouraging it. I still think it was better to be safe then sorry. I would have felt miserable if I would have hit the idiot who jumped out in front of me even if I was 100 percent correct and eventually found innocent. Who needs that experience? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:37:56 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:15:34 2016. No it wouldn't have been suicidal if he could outrun the car. As I said, what wou,d I have done if he would have tripped? That would have been out of my control. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:48:43 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Sep 26 16:51:14 2016. As I said, if the pedestrian did not decide to cross, I would have been through the crosswalk completely in about two seconds. I do not see how that was "too slow."If I drove slightly faster so that he would not have tried to cross in front, I would have been through the crosswalk in about one second. I decided to be cautious because the second longer it took me is negligible. But that extra second gave the pedestrian the idea he could beat me if he ran which he did until he saw I was slowing down to stop for him and then he stopped running and flushed crossing the street at a walking place. So I do not think it was 2 or 3. It was 3 but I was able to come to a complete stop and yield to him. . |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:51:20 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Sep 26 17:06:44 2016. I think the pedestrian views it differently. I do not think mist realize they have to step into the gutter and consider they are not being given the right of way even if both feet are firmly planted on the sidewalk. That is why they have this notion that 99 percent of th drivers do not give pedestrians the right of way. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:53:15 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Sep 26 17:13:15 2016. It only increases the likelihood of other cars turning if they turn into the lane to the left of the one you are in. Otherwise, they are still stuck behind you. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:58:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Mon Sep 26 17:35:01 2016. Repeating the same lie over and over DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.I DID NOT SELFISHLY MAKE IT UNSAFE FOR THEM TO CROSS. AND THE PEDESTRIAN FORCED BE TO BLOCK THE CROSSWALK. Apparently you do not have the capability to understand Englush because you do not want to change your beliefs that the pedestrian is always correct and has a god g en right to cross the street whenever and wherever he chooses even if he is jaywalking or stepping out suicidedly or absentmindedly from between parked cars making it impossible for any driver to stop in tme. But in your mind that driver would still be a murderer if he killed that suicidal pedestrian. Get over it already. THERE ARE INSTANCES WHEN THE PEDESTRIAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG LIKE IN THE CASES I CITED. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:01:20 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:10:58 2016. Yep. If I immediately accelerated to 25 mph immediately after turning and without waiting two seconds, I probably would have scared pedestrians from entering the gutter. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:01:21 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:10:58 2016. Yep. If I immediately accelerated to 25 mph immediately after turning and without waiting two seconds, I probably would have scared pedestrians from entering the gutter. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:05:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:18:50 2016. Okay, you are saying I should have turned immediately without waiting two seconds and then immediately accelerated to the speed limit instead of driving through the crosswalk at 10 mph.Is that correct? I didn't do that just in case someone decided to cross and there was a great likelihood someone might decide to start crossing. If so, I would have not have been able to give them the right of way because it would have been impossible to stop for them to cross. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:11:22 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:19:38 2016. Explain how I could have been correct? If I did what you said and turned immediately after the signal turned green and immediately started to accelerate to 25 mph instead of starting to drive through the crosswalk at only 10 mph, and someone stepped off the curb within the sidewalk, I would have been guilty of not giving him the right of way. So I still would have been wrong.As I stated, there is no way that my actions would be interpreted as correct by the crowd here. There is no way I could win. Only New Flyer came closest to admitting I was totally correct in my actions. But he still had some qualifications. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:12:53 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:22:14 2016. You can doubt all you want. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:15:17 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:24:23 2016. So you are saying I would not have been wrong if I cut off a pedestrian in the crosswalk wanting to cross? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:18:49 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:26:47 2016. "It was only after I passed the crosswalk threshold that the idiot stepped outside the crosswalk and started running across in case I did not slow down"That was my story from the beginning. MY STORY NEVER CHANGED. However, the first time I did not mention that he started off running. I just said he was crossing. It was less detail, but NOT INCONSISTENT. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:20:26 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:28:57 2016. Hey dick! You don't speak for everyone on this board. Your opinion is yours only. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:22:07 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:31:48 2016. I eventually did clear it. Do you think I am writing all this while I am still in the intersection? Ha ha.They did cross within the crosswalk after I left it as I saw through my rearview mirror as I stated. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:23:45 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:33:10 2016. I was wing extra cautious as I stated due to the numbers of pedestrians in the area, WHICH WAS THE PRUDENT AND SAFE THING TO DO. So I need to turn in my license for being safe and cautious? Apparently that is what you think. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:24:51 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 27 00:36:06 2016. To give you something to do. If not for me, your life would be totally boring. You live to see my posts. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 12:51:17 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:01:21 2016. I have no problem with that. That has happened to me numerous times and I then wave the pedestrians through anyway. Or they go anyway. In your case, since you said they didn't start walking until after you entered the crosswalk, you probably would have had room to go without interfering with anyone. That's why you were wrong for waiting at the stop line. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 27 13:06:52 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 26 14:35:29 2016. BUMP |
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Posted by fdtutf on Tue Sep 27 13:19:12 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:58:42 2016. Your story doesn't make any sense. In the absence of a coherent account from you, I'm trying to fill in the gaps, and I'm doing that based on my previous experience with you. Sorry about some stuff. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:23:10 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 09:38:49 2016. I agree that peds in the back might push against the peds in the front, promoting them to step out even if they otherwise would have let the single car turn first. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:23:40 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:16:47 2016. I don't see why they would have thought that. It makes no sense. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:27:42 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:23:15 2016. I wouldn't call the people who reply on this board, everyone.We would. Many just read and don't bother replying. You have know way of knowing if those agree with me or not.Wrong. We can infer. If they are taking the time to read your posts and actually agreed with you, unlike almost everyone who replies to your posts, then surely they would reply in support of you to counter all the people replying that you are wrong. The fact that the only person who really ever agreed with you and replied as such was seemingly banned from here for being an asshole, seems to suggest that almost everyone here disagrees with you. They don't all say it because a few of us vocal types do it for them. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:30:49 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:37:56 2016. No, what I quoted is why your story makes no sense. The ped could not have gotten from the sidewalk to in front of your card AHEAD of the crosswalk that quickly. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:31:21 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:51:20 2016. No |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:32:39 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:53:15 2016. WRONG. Once the car behind you can pull up behind you past the stop bar, he can complete his turn even after the light turns red. That's why you should pull up!!! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:33:08 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by fdtutf on Tue Sep 27 13:19:12 2016. IAWTP |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:34:02 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:01:20 2016. Nope, because you wouldn't have increased your acceleration rate significantly until you were within the crosswalk. That's too late to scare them. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:34:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:01:21 2016. no. see my other reply. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:36:38 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:05:57 2016. Okay, you are saying I should have turned immediately without waiting two seconds and then immediately accelerated to the speed limit instead of driving through the crosswalk at 10 mph.No. Why would you think I'd tell you to do that? I didn't do that just in case someone decided to cross and there was a great likelihood someone might decide to start crossing. If so, I would have not have been able to give them the right of way because it would have been impossible to stop for them to cross.That has to do with your speed through the crosswalk, not your dumb decision to wait at the stop bar. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:40:40 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:11:22 2016. Explain how I could have been correct?We've already told you countless times. The light turns green - you go. If you see a ped in the street that would be in danger if you proceeded, you slow down/stop until it is safe for you to continue. It's very simple. Why do you need to be told this? Turn in your license now. If I did what you said and turned immediately after the signal turned green and immediately started to accelerate to 25 mph instead of starting to drive through the crosswalk at only 10 mph, and someone stepped off the curb within the sidewalk, I would have been guilty of not giving him the right of way.That sounds wrong. So I still would have been wrong.But that's not what we told you to do. And no, you wouldn't be wrong as long as you weren't accelerating so quickly that you couldn't stop. As I stated, there is no way that my actions would be interpreted as correct by the crowd here. There is no way I could win. Only New Flyer came closest to admitting I was totally correct in my actions. But he still had some qualifications.Wrong. But you will be wrong whenever you're wrong. Which is almost always. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:41:28 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:12:53 2016. I will! It's the logical/informed thing to do when dealing with you. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:42:58 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:15:17 2016. So you are saying I would not have been wrong if I cut off a pedestrian in the crosswalk wanting to cross?No, I'm not saying that. You have no reading comprehension. I'm saying you would not have been cutting them off if you immediately turned. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:44:57 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:18:49 2016. That was my story from the beginning. MY STORY NEVER CHANGED.Wrong. And now your story changes AGAIN. However, the first time I did not mention that he started off running. I just said he was crossing.Exactly. Your story changed. In a big way! It was less detail, but NOT INCONSISTENT.Wrong. It's completely inconsistent!!!! It also makes no sense. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Sep 27 13:44:59 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:21:44 2016. Because if the person WHO HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY cannot take the right of way because it is unsafe for them to do so, THEIR RIGHT OF WAY HAS BEEN VIOLATED. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:46:00 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:20:26 2016. Hey Dick BLICK! Based on what people post here, I do speak for "everyone" on this board, since they are in agreement with me with regards to you being wrong. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:50:02 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:22:07 2016. I eventually did clear it. Do you think I am writing all this while I am still in the intersection? Ha ha.What in the world are you talking about? I'm talking about the same thing you were taking about in the post I replied to. They did cross within the crosswalk after I left it as I saw through my rearview mirror as I stated.Oh, LOL, you're differentiating between crossing within and outside the crosswalk! LOL!!!!! Haha! From what Stephen posted, there's no difference@@@!!!!! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:52:31 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:23:45 2016. I was wing extra cautious as I stated due to the numbers of pedestrians in the area, WHICH WAS THE PRUDENT AND SAFE THING TO DO. So I need to turn in my license for being safe and cautious? Apparently that is what you think.You were not correct, based on what you have written. At the very least, you should not have sat in place when the light turned green. Were you waiting for an invitation? For someone to light a fire under your ass?Waiting at a green light for no reason is not prudent and safe, it is stupid and assholish. It is very inconsiderate to other drivers. You can't just make up your own rules. LOL!!! |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:53:28 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 12:24:51 2016. Wrong. You said you would ignore me and you have not. You lied. Like 20 times. LOL! You post here because you care what we think. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:54:00 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Sep 26 14:35:29 2016. bump |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:55:26 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Tue Sep 27 13:44:59 2016. That only works if the car could have reasonably stopped before the ped took the ROW. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Sep 27 13:56:01 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by R30A on Tue Sep 27 13:44:59 2016. *That only works if the car could have reasonably stopped before the ped would have attempted to take the ROW. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 16:24:43 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:35:48 2016. You would have accelerated immediately to 25 mphThe exact speed would depend on weather and conditions further down the road. The crosswalk would no longer be my concern because in 99+% of the right turns I make, given the distance from the curb to where my car traverses the crosswalk, there is absolutely no time for anyone not to run all the way from having both feet on the sidewalk to in front of my car. I'm taking a look at the intersection now (42nd and 8th). Based on some of Google's photos, the crosswalk in question looks slightly wider than one typical passenger car length. Let's be generous and make it 20 feet. There's a bus lane which is at least 10 feet wide so to turn into the nearest lane you have to be at least 10 feet from the curb. You basically have to traverse the 20 feet before the pedestrians at the far point inside of the crosswalk can make it the 10 feet, meaning you have to go twice the speed of the pedestrians. A fast walker (5 MPH) covers 10 feet in 1.3 seconds. Is it feasible for an ordinary car to get from a dead stop (yielding at crosswalk threshold) to 20 feet away (other end of the crosswalk) in 1.3 seconds? I don't know. It seems fairly close, so again this is a difficult turn to make if pedestrians near the inner boundary of the crosswalk are not considerate / cautious. Maybe this is an exception to the idea that a car should be able to traverse a crosswalk before a pedestrian coming off the curb has a chance to get in the way? If so then you definitely have my sympathies! |
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