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Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Sep 27 16:24:43 2016, in response to Re: Fighting the DOT S(BS) on Woodhaven Blvd, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 27 11:35:48 2016.

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You would have accelerated immediately to 25 mph

The exact speed would depend on weather and conditions further down the road. The crosswalk would no longer be my concern because in 99+% of the right turns I make, given the distance from the curb to where my car traverses the crosswalk, there is absolutely no time for anyone not to run all the way from having both feet on the sidewalk to in front of my car.

I'm taking a look at the intersection now (42nd and 8th). Based on some of Google's photos, the crosswalk in question looks slightly wider than one typical passenger car length. Let's be generous and make it 20 feet.

There's a bus lane which is at least 10 feet wide so to turn into the nearest lane you have to be at least 10 feet from the curb.

You basically have to traverse the 20 feet before the pedestrians at the far point inside of the crosswalk can make it the 10 feet, meaning you have to go twice the speed of the pedestrians. A fast walker (5 MPH) covers 10 feet in 1.3 seconds. Is it feasible for an ordinary car to get from a dead stop (yielding at crosswalk threshold) to 20 feet away (other end of the crosswalk) in 1.3 seconds? I don't know. It seems fairly close, so again this is a difficult turn to make if pedestrians near the inner boundary of the crosswalk are not considerate / cautious.

Maybe this is an exception to the idea that a car should be able to traverse a crosswalk before a pedestrian coming off the curb has a chance to get in the way? If so then you definitely have my sympathies!

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