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Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 11:54:14 2010

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Assemblyman William Colton
47 Assembly District
155 Kings Highway
Brooklyn, NY 11223
718 236-1598

May 17, 2009

For Immediate Release: coverage requested Contact: Carmine Santa Maria
718 975-0307 cell 718 490-0109

PRESS ADVISORY


COMMUNITY RALLY TO PROTEST LOSS OF B 64 BUS LINE,

SERVICE CUTS AND LOSS OF STUDENT HALF FARE CARDS

Who: Harway Avenue residents, businesses, schools, homeowners, churches and religious institutions.

What: Rally to protest loss of Harway Avenue Bus service, subway service cuts, express bus cuts and loss of student MetroCards.

Where: Bus stop in front of “Bakery Plus” bakery 2851 Harway Avenue and corner of Bay 50 St.

When: Friday morning May 21st at 11 a.m.

Why: To vehemently protest the loss of their Harway Avenue bus line and the clandestine manner it was done. Assemblyman William Colton will reveal new legislation he has introduced that will force the MTA to notify community boards of changes that will affect their residents.

COMMUNITY OUTRAGED!

This Bensonhurst Community was not given sufficient time to comment on the MTA's plans for the Harway Avenue Bus Service which will be eliminated by the MTA with their draconian service cuts; riders are fuming that they were never notified, until after the fact. Resident and businesses along Harway Avenue never knew that their life line to transportation as well as to the rest of the borough and city was being eliminated until the MTA posted signs on the Bus Stop routes, that after June 28 service along this section of the B64 line will cease to exist.

On Friday, May 21 at 11 PM neighborhood crowds will rally outside the bus top in front of “Bakery Plus bakery 2841 Harway Avenue (Bay 50th Street and Harway Avenue) to protest the loss of Harway Avenue bus service south of 25th Avenue to Stillwell Avenue terminal. Seniors from Most Precious Blood Golden Age Club, Harway Terrace Residents, John Dewey High School Staff and many brand new homeowners as well as long time residents will gather to air their displeasure and extol upon the inconveniences, hardships and problems they will suffer with the loss of the bus service they’ve always had.

Assemblyman William Colton (Dem. 47AD) has introduced legislation which will mandate that the MTA be required to notify community boards when MTA service cuts affect their districts. “Unfortunately, the MTA was not mandated to do so before, and you see the horrendous results that happened which these people are now being faced with. But with this legislation the people will learn of their plans as its affects them and be able to speak their piece and protest at the Public Hearings they are forced to have,” said the Bensonhurst/Gravesend Legislator, adding ‘the MTA must be receptive and responsible to the riders. Let them stop taking their many chauffeured limousines and see how they like walking the extra blocks they force their riders to do!”
HISTORY

ASSEMBLYMAN COLTON CRIES FOUL…COMMUNITIES NOT NOTIFIED!

LAUNCHES PETITION DRIVE PROTESTING CUTS!

Assemblyman William Colton (Dem 47 AD) in response to a deluge of complaints from constituents along Harway Avenue that were never notified that their long established bus route, the B64 will be eliminated has launched a petition drive to protest the nefarious MTA action.

Although public hearings were held in every borough for the entire MTA proposal of cutting services, the communities were never told of the changes or the elimination of routes that affected them. With signage now being posted along Harway Avenue bus stops that as of June 29, bus service from 25th Avenue South to Stillwell Avenue will cease to exist and riders are being directed to the B81 along Cropsey Avenue…and the riders are angry!

“The neighborhood is in turmoil, I have never seen so many people incensed” said Assemblyman Colton, adding “seniors from Most Precious Blood Church Golden Age Center will lose half of its membership, because the elderly cannot walk the extra long blocks. Harway Terrace Co-Op Residents are devastated, the B64 bus service has always been there and it was their life line to transportation in the city, especially to the other buses in the borough, the businesses will be heavily hit financially, some fear for their survival and the John Dewey High School Kids will have to walk blocks through the neighborhood, before they can get bus service to get home and to school.” The Bensonhurst/Gravesend Legislator asks “Has the MTA investigated and seen how many new homes and condos have been built in the very same area, they’re taking the service away from…a third of the homes on every block is brand new! New homes, new families, new residents mean additional service will be needed.”

The petition to TA president Jay Walder is not supple and challenges the MTA to Eliminate Waste and Corruption! It reads “Increasing our MTA fares or eliminating services that are vital to our everyday needs is not a solution or the answer, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! We say ‘how about starting a new and better solution: Eliminating Waste and Corruption.” The MTA constantly wastes monies; overspends and can’t control their budget. Why should we the people pay for the mistakes and incompetence of an Authority that can’t manage or maintain their finances?

Assemblyman Colton will deliver the petitions before the service is discontinued and will

Mobilize the community to rally against the cuts. “I’ve learned that it is the MTA intention to completely eliminate the B64 entirely. This petition is also to protest the elimination of students’ free/half fare student MetroCards as well as protest the service cuts to the X28/X38 and N, D, and M lines. I expect State legislators and City Councilmen throughout the city will join in this fight” said Assemblyman Colton.

Service Cut Protest Petitions are also available from Assemblyman Colton’s Community office at 155 Kings Highway, ask for Mike at 718 236-1598 to have them mailed to you…or you can leave your name, address and phone number if you want to take an active role in the Petition Drive and Community Mobilization.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon May 17 12:32:36 2010, in response to Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 11:54:14 2010.

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BS for them - - they act like nobody has a computer - - there was plenty of advance notification through the MTA website and the public hearings region-wide.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by caine515 on Mon May 17 12:33:22 2010, in response to Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 11:54:14 2010.

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my question is even if the rally goes well..what is the chances of reinstating B64 service before June 28??

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon May 17 12:36:00 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by caine515 on Mon May 17 12:33:22 2010.

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My thoughts exactly. I mean, isn't it a bit too late for that? Of course, when politics come into play, "miracles" can happen.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 12:39:51 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by caine515 on Mon May 17 12:33:22 2010.

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I don't think they can get it reinstated, but at least they could get extra B82s if they can prove demand. Currently only alternate B82s go all the way to Coney Island.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon May 17 12:40:42 2010, in response to Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 11:54:14 2010.

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I want to suggest a radical idea to save the express bus. Y'know what it is?

ACTUALLY RIDE IT!

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 12:43:21 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon May 17 12:32:36 2010.

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You forget, many senior citizens do not have a computer or know how to use one and do not have access to the MTA website. The signs on the buses were really inadequate with its 12 point font. Did you try to read it on a moving bus? Also you had to read the whole thing to find out if your route was included and then the changes for the routes were not described. The heading on the sign mad it appear that just service was being reduced not that entire routes or partial routes would be eliminated reflecting the severity of the situation.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 12:46:00 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon May 17 12:36:00 2010.

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In 1978, the B74 was discontinued for about three weeks. There was so much political uproar that the MTA was forced to reinstate it 3 weeks later, ao yes anything is possible, but the chances are slim.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Pelham R62A on Mon May 17 13:38:09 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 12:43:21 2010.

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But many senior citizens have access to a TV, radio, or the daily newspapers. This was the story for all news outlets prior to the beginning of the public hearings.

The only thing I could see the MTA doing would be to hand out pamphlets on each bus line prior to the public hearings and, once the service reductions were approved, redistribute updated pamphlets.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by JAzumah on Mon May 17 14:07:57 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 12:43:21 2010.

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The question is why the politicians who "cared" didn't make more of a fuss. Savino on SI went to her express bus lines to gather support early on, so she gets half a cookie. Crying now is not fair. This MTA has done a better job than past MTAs.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 15:54:17 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by Pelham R62A on Mon May 17 13:38:09 2010.

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They could have posted specific signage in large type for the routes affected. The TV coverage only focused on the student demonstrations of the end to reduced fares. There was very little focus on the cuts themselves. Only a few were talked about most notably the M and V. Of the bus changes, they only spoke of the Bronx ones that Walder wanted them to look at again and Channel 5 had report on the B69. I believe 33 routes were eliminated and 100 affected. I heard no mention by the media of the B64 or most of the other changes.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 15:55:50 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by JAzumah on Mon May 17 14:07:57 2010.

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"This MTA has done a better job than past MTAs"

Only as far as making some route alterations to avoid complete cuts.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by caine515 on Mon May 17 16:04:36 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 15:54:17 2010.

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if the B64 does come back, i can see it comning back for either weekdays or rush hours only. hoping...hoping..

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon May 17 18:46:43 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon May 17 12:40:42 2010.

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I want to suggest a radical idea to save the express bus. Y'know what it is? ACTUALLY RIDE IT!

That's w-a-a-y too radical for some folks. The complainers want the bus to be there "just in case" they might possibly want it someday in the hazy future.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon May 17 18:52:29 2010, in response to Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 11:54:14 2010.

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[Assemblyman William Colton (Dem 47 AD) in response to a deluge of complaints from constituents along Harway Avenue that were never notified....]


The Assemblyman himself KNEW about the B64 plan all along - he probably voted FOR the funding cuts that forced the service cuts!!

He clearly couldn't be bothered to mobilize his constituents before now, so maybe somebody else should represent that district.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 20:12:36 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon May 17 18:52:29 2010.

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You know that for a fact that he knew about the B64 all along? Let's say he did. Is it his job to mobilize the people or the peoples' job to come to him?

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon May 17 20:39:47 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 20:12:36 2010.

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[You know that for a fact that he knew about the B64 all along?]


- Courts have ruled that being in a position to know is legally equivalent to actual knowledge. (Hence the frequent courtroom argument that somebody "knew or should have known" something.)

- EVERY elected official in every city district was in a position to know the MTA's service reduction plan when it was first issued, because every elected official has staffers who are paid to know such things. Plus, EVERY State Senator and Assembly Member knew beforehand that service cuts would be necessary because they themselves had just voted to cut the MTA's funding.

- Therefore, Assemblyman Colton knew. Period.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by B49 Limited on Mon May 17 20:54:06 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 12:43:21 2010.

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Well Brooklynbus, I was waiting for this moment to happen, I am surprise it took this long for a response from the public official. Let the protest begin!!! So far the plan is working... Albany you are next .. get your budget ballance

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon May 17 21:26:38 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by B49 Limited on Mon May 17 20:54:06 2010.

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[I was waiting for this moment to happen, I am surprise it took this long for a response from the public official.]

That's because the public official in question is one of those who CAUSED the problem.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 21:47:12 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon May 17 21:26:38 2010.

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Albany was trying to send the MTA a message that if they want to continue getting state funding, they have to operate more efficiently.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 21:51:20 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Mon May 17 20:39:47 2010.

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Maybe so, but until public officials receive massive complaints from the public, they rarely act. I'm not saying that is right, but that's how it is. In this case, he was not made aware beforehand by his consitutents, because they were unaware. I've never seen a public official take the lead in anything. They don't want to stick their neck out until they know they have support.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by JAzumah on Mon May 17 21:55:11 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 20:12:36 2010.

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If he didn't know, then he is not doing his job. With the way he is talking now, he should have brought it up earlier. In this case, most of the early birds got the worm.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by DOWNTOWN EXPRESS on Mon May 17 22:42:31 2010, in response to Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 11:54:14 2010.

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Those hearings were all over the place. There is a possibility but who would miss TV, Local Newspaper coverage unless they have been in a coma or hid under a rock.
By the way the B82 is within walking distance going to the same terminal it would be the perfect alternative.

Also wasnt the X27/28 weekend express funded by some congressman or state offical paying for the service due to the manhattan bridge closure?

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 18 00:28:26 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by DOWNTOWN EXPRESS on Mon May 17 22:42:31 2010.

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As I stated previously, people knew there would be cuts, but the media never specifically listed all the cuts, nor did the the public notices on the buses describe the cuts but just gave a brief general description saying the following routes would be discontinued or the following routes would be restructured or that service was being changed. You needed to go to the internet to know what was happening.

Also there was one sign for all Citywide changes. Had they at least done it by borough before the hearings the way it way posted at the post stops, people would have had a chance of knowing what was going to happen.

Also, you can't just say the B82 is a perfect alternative without knowing the loadings on the buses (especially at school hours) and the frequency of them. Don't forget only alternate B82s operate to Coney Island. They do not come frequently at all.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 18 00:30:12 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 18 00:28:26 2010.

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That should have said "bus stops" not "post stops."

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Brightonr68 on Tue May 18 00:45:20 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 12:43:21 2010.

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Another Albany crook grandstanding to distract from the fact they are collecting $100k per year plus for a 3 day a week part time job in which the budget is late because they don't want to make the needed cuts at a time when they need campaign contributions cough bribes from the labor unions.

Where was he during the public hearings educating the community. No where. Where has he been fir the past decade while the mta wasted billions?

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue May 18 08:59:50 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by DOWNTOWN EXPRESS on Mon May 17 22:42:31 2010.

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By the way the B82 is within walking distance going to the same terminal it would be the perfect alternative.

Aren't most of the people affected concerned about servive going in the other direction towards Bay Ridge?

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 18 13:24:33 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue May 18 08:59:50 2010.

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Exactly. Different populations are being served. You can't just plan by looking at a map. Also, since no mention was made of three-legged transfers, some riders will have to now pay double fare as a result of these cuts.

A dumb politician once saw all the buses on a variety of routes in Downtown Brooklyn one block from their termini and wondered why it was necessary to operate so many empty buses so close to each other.

While the MTA is not that dumb, their planning isn't very intelligent either.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Tue May 18 18:16:32 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 18 00:28:26 2010.

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[As I stated previously, people knew there would be cuts, but the media never specifically listed all the cuts, nor did the the public notices on the buses describe the cuts but just gave a brief general description saying the following routes would be discontinued or the following routes would be restructured or that service was being changed. You needed to go to the internet to know what was happening.]

Elected officials have access to the internet. They could have downloaded the entire service cut package (or just used what the MTA sent to their offices) and distributed the information to anybody and everybody. They consciously chose not to do so.

If they can't be bothered to act on behalf of their constituents, they don't deserve to be in office.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 18 19:56:18 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Tue May 18 18:16:32 2010.

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You are correct, but that's not how politicians operate. They are never pro-active. They just react. I don't think you will find a politician or wanna be politician to do what you are asking. So I don't think it is fair for you to single out Colton.

Maybe you would care to run for office if you would behave like that. If you do, you have my vote.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 18 19:57:04 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by JAzumah on Mon May 17 14:07:57 2010.

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hah!

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 18 19:59:49 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by Brightonr68 on Tue May 18 00:45:20 2010.

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collecting his share,of course.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 18 21:37:41 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 20:12:36 2010.

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damn..come on...

he didn't get to be a politician holding some sort of ELECTED POSITION by being stupid...

HE KNEW.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by JAzumah on Tue May 18 21:41:44 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 18 19:56:18 2010.

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But they did. The politicians that were proactive helped cause some changes to occur.

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue May 18 22:26:55 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by JAzumah on Tue May 18 21:41:44 2010.

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Which ones were those?

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by GOLD_12th on Wed May 19 13:55:59 2010, in response to Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon May 17 11:54:14 2010.

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Daily News did a story at the business that will be held as a rally.

Bensonhurst baker predicts business will nosedive once MTA cuts B64 bus

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by DOWNTOWN EXPRESS on Thu May 20 04:19:42 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by GOLD_12th on Wed May 19 13:55:59 2010.

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Sorry to hear that a bussiness will fail, however if it has a good rapport some wouldnt mind the walk over to get thier bake goods.

So who is to blame? MTA, your politians who see who gets what throughout the state? Deficits are all around some may have to wake up and check thier bottom line.

I remember a story in Astoria about a few years ago regarding a newly opened chicken place. A staircase leading from the elevated line to the street was closed for repairs I guess which lasted too long. They blamed the MTA for allowing the stairs to be covered in construction equipment which would divert pedestrians to the other side of the street which they stated they posted a loss. But wouldnt advertising and word of mouth play a role in this?

The point is that bussinesses would have to adapt to changes within thier locations like these that would affect sales. In manhattan things are within walking distances of buses and subways, which ultimately they pay a high price being whatever the real estate market sells as.

But people also look for quality in the products that they buy which keeps them coming back. Katz Deli for exmaple is in a formidable area which a less than a 2 block walk from the subway has a reputation of large sandwiches and good which keeps people lining up at many times.

Sorry for the long rant but the B64 isnt the only route being cut and this is not the only bussiness being hurt. Question if this gets restored what will be consequence restoring this service or any other that may survive?

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Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu May 20 10:37:22 2010, in response to Re: Another Protest of the Bus Service Cuts - Fri May 21 in Bensonhurst, posted by DOWNTOWN EXPRESS on Thu May 20 04:19:42 2010.

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You will find that when any bus route is changed, a good change or a bad change, there will always be a business being hurt and they will complain. If it's a good change and a business is helped, that will never make the news.

You can't do planning based on what will happen to local businesses. The goal should be to improve service for the riders. Unfortunately, now it is to cut service.

Look at all the sufferring the Second Avenue businessed have to go through during construction of the subway. Many will not be able to survive. But do you not build anything because of that?

The B64 won't be coming back except maybe for special school runs.

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