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MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:18:14 2010 In what has to be the biggest redrawing of the map since most of the Bronx bus map was blown up around 1984, these are the Brooklyn routes affected under the proposals. Reductions of service in the first and/or last hours of service are not included. 26 routes are otherwise affected.B1: Instead of serving 13 Avenue and Bay Ridge Avenue to terminate at Xaverian High School, the route would run straight along 86 Street to terminate at the 86 Street (R) station. See also B64. B2: Weekend service discontinued. B3: Service along East 73/74 Streets discontinued. B4: Service east of the Coney Island Hospital area discontinued. B7: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B8: Service west of the VA Hospital to the 95 Street (R) discontinued except late nights. See also B70. B12: Service east of Alabama Avenue/the East New York Depot to be discontinued (Liberty Avenue service). B13: Service west of Myrtle-Wyckoff (L/V) to be discontinued). Route returns to pre-1995 form. B14: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B23: Service discontinued. B24: Weekend service discontinued. B31: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B37: Service discontinued. See also B70. B45: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B48: Service south of Fulton Street discontinued. B51: Service discontinued. B57: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. In addition, service is extended through Carroll Gardens along Smith and Court Streets, terminating at Smith-9 Streets (F/G). B61: Service extended along the current B77 route and along the 9 Street portion of the B75 to Bishop Ford High School. B64: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. In addition, service east of the Ulmer Park Depot to be discontinued (Harway Avenue service). In addition, B64 would run along 13 Avenue and Bay Ridge Avenue to Xaverian High School. See also B1. B65: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B67: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B69: Weekend service discontinued. In addition, service in Park Slope is rerouted onto 7 Avenue and extended to Kensington. B70: Service along 7 Avenue discontinued. Route re-routed along Bay Ridge Avenue and 3 Avenue to provide service to the 3 Avenue business district in Bay Ridge between Bay Ridge Avenue and Marine Avenue. Termini remain the same. B71: Service discontinued. B75: Route split between B57 and B61. B77: Merged into B61. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:24:16 2010, in response to MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:18:14 2010. Actually, add these cuts too:X27/37: X37 designation to disappear. X28/38: X38 designation to disappear. X29: Service discontinued. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:34:07 2010, in response to MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:18:14 2010. These routes are affected in the Bronx. The list is not nearly as extensive as Brooklyn.BxM4A: Service discontinued; BxM4B service remains intact. BxM7B: Service discontinued. Bx5: Service in Middletown/Pelham Bay rerouted to Crosby Avenue instead of Bruckner Boulevard/MacDonough Place. See also Bx8. Bx8: Service to continue into Country Club via Stadium Avenue and Middletown Road instead of along Layton Avenue and Crosby Avenue. See also Bx5. Bx14: Service discontinued. See also Bx5 and Bx8. Bx15: Articulated buses introduced. See also Bx55. Bx18: Service discontinued. Bx20: Service discontinued except rush hours. Bx33: Weekend service discontinued. Bx34: Overnight and weekend service discontinued. Bx39: Service extended to Wakefield. See also Bx41. Bx41: Service between Williamsbridge and Wakefield discontinued. See also Bx39. Bx55: Evening and weekend service discontinued. See also Bx15. POOL: Service discontinued. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jan 23 02:50:57 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:24:16 2010. I am surprise they not cutting BM5 and extend BM2 to cover a very small portion of BM5. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jan 23 02:53:51 2010, in response to MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:18:14 2010. I have to disagree almost all of the Brooklyn service cuts and changes, it will take hours to start talking about it. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:56:14 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:34:07 2010. For the Bronx, there is one other service change, in Co-op City:Bx25/26: Bx25 disappears. Bx26 to operate via Sections 4 and 5 only. Bx28: Route split into two designations. The Bx28 runs straight across Bartow Avenue to Section 5. The Bx38 will operate via Sections 1, 2, and 3, and terminate in Bay Plaza. Bx30: Service on Asch Loop discontinued. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Manhattan |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:56:59 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:34:07 2010. Routes affected in Manhattan:M1: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. Weekend service discontinued south of 106 Street. Service south of Greenwich Village is discontinued. Route through midtown to match the M2 route. See also M3 and M5. M3: University Place service discontinued. M5: Extended to South Ferry along M6 route south of Greenwich Village. M6: Merged into M5. M8: Overnight and weekend service discontinued. M9: Service along Water Street and 14th Street eliminated. New north terminus is Manhattan VA Hospital, and new south terminus is City Hall. In addition, service in Alphabet City rerouted from Avenue B to Avenue C to replace M21 service. M10: Service south of Columbus Circle discontinued. M15: Service to City Hall discontinued. See also M9 and M20. M16: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. M18: Service discontinued. M20: Service extended to South Ferry terminal. M21: Weekend service discontinued. In addition, service rerouted along Houston Street, river-to-river. See also M9. M22: Weekend service discontinued. In addition, service along Chambers Street discontinued. M27: Service discontinued. M30: Service discontinued. M42: Service to Jacob J. Javits Center discontinued. M50: Overnight and weekend service discontinued. M66: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. M98: Direct service into George Washington Bridge Bus Terminal discontinued. Service south of Hunter College discontinued. M104: Service along 42 Street discontinued. X90: Service discontinued. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sat Jan 23 02:58:21 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jan 23 02:50:57 2010. I would expected cut service to just peak hours on BM 5 and BM 2 to just weekdays on the BM 2. You can argue that the B 103 covers the connections to the BM 1/3/and 4. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:02:18 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Manhattan, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:56:59 2010. Q14: Service discontinued.Q24: Service along Broadway in Brooklyn discontinued. Q26: Weekday and evening service discontinued. Q30: Overnight service discontinued 1AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. Q31: Weekend service discontinued. Q42: Service discontinued. Q74: Service discontinued. Q75: Service discontinued. Q76: Saturday service discontinued. Q79: Service discontinued. Q89: Service discontinued. X51: Service discontinued. QM22: Service discontinued. QM23: Service discontinued. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:03:07 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:02:18 2010. With this one, this completely obliterates any travel from Northern Queens to points south of Northern Boulevard without having to travel through Flushing. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:08:40 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:03:07 2010. Also, forgot the X32 for elimination. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Manhattan |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:09:02 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Manhattan, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:56:59 2010. Manhattan also includes the X25 for elimination. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:11:53 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:24:16 2010. The X27 and X28 would also lose weekend service. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Staten Island |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:14:59 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:02:18 2010. Affected in Staten Island:S40/S90 Limited: Service to Howland Hook discontinued. S42: Service discontinued. See also S52. S52: Service rerouted in St. George and New Brighton using former S42 routing to Brighton Avenue, and then continuing on to South Beach. S54: Weekend service discontinued. S60: Service discontinued. S67: Service discontinued. S76: Weekend service discontinued. X1: Peak service designation disappears. Use X2, X3, X4, X5, X7, or X8 buses to correct destination. X6: Service discontinued. X9: Service discontinued. X13: Service discontinued. See also X14. X14: Service rerouted along Water Street in Lower Manhattan to replace X13 service. X16: Service discontinued. X18: Service discontinued. X20: Service discontinued. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:27:41 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Staten Island, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:14:59 2010. N1: Service to Valley Stream LIRR station discontinued.N2: Service to Jamaica discontinued. N3: Service discontinued. N14: Midday service discontinued. N17: Service discontinued. N23: Peak-only service to Harbor Road in Port Washington discontinued. N26: Service discontinued. N28: Service discontinued. N53: Service discontinued. N62: Midday service discontinued. N65: Service discontinued. N66: Service discontinued. N67: Service discontinued. N87: Service discontinued. N88: Service discontinued. N93: Service discontinued. N94: Service discontinued. N95: Service discontinued. ---------------- The real puzzler here appears to be the N26, because those buses eventually go back as N22s. Smarter would have been to truncate to the Lake Success area. Some of these services also may have done better using smaller vehicles. The pressure though may be on corporate park owners to run their own shuttle services, as is done in Westchester County, since the MTA is essentially pulling out of that market. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sat Jan 23 03:28:45 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jan 23 02:53:51 2010. I agree... MTA really need to think it out.I am just thinking out loud but here is my reaction to this crap. B 61/ 77 saw that coming when the B 61 was split. B 57 assuming the B 37 route to 9 Street, why the B 57? I don't see the logic in that one. B 67/ 69 proposal.. WTF! 1) B 69 making a left on 7 Av/ Flatbush good luck on that one. 2) Why do we need the B 69 to serve Navy Yard? 3) With this alternating of buses, would that mean more of cut service on the B 67 or more buses (waiting time for the B 67 now vs this new proposal)? There are better ideas for the B 69 (rush hour service to/from Myrtle Av/Vanderbilt) MTA in regards to B 71 listen to me combine B 14 or restructure the route... IT is still vital. Terminating the B 4 at CI Av and Av Z... Are you kidding me!! The bus is vital to Sheepshed Bay. Good luck B 36 riders... B1/64 - B 86 this is a proposal been around since the 90s cutbacks.. I am split about it B70 proposal/eliminate B 8 to Bay Ridge... Was the idea to send the B 8 to Bay ridge was to make easier connections with the SI buses? Also tell the B 70 customers that their ride will take longer and you will have to walk longer distance since it now serves 3 Av instead 7 Av B3 - Bergen Bch - Av X portion. Could have they at least proposed a rush hour segment only. That is what it really needs. B 12 - bad mistake. reduce hours of service to City line but don't cut it. And they proposed B 14 as alternative OMG. Could have use the Q 112 or the Q 7 as an alternative B 13- well not going into that one. B 48 - I saw that coming . The B 48 needs to studied it is still a vital route but when it reaches to Williamsburg the route becomes so outdated. You will see this route become a full 20 - 30 min bus very soon. Sorry to say this but I rather have the B 49 absorb this route north of Fulton. especially when the B 44 SBS comes in to play. B 64 - The restructured B 64 might as well combine the route with the B 3.. just a thought. Again bad move. Q 24 - understand B2 - Just combine with the B 100 already B 23 - either send the B 67 or the proposed B 69 to serve 16 Av. And also reorganized the B 103 bus stops on Cortelyou. CI AV (NB)/ Stratford Rd (SB), Marlborough and E 16 sts, and Ocean Av should be the stops on the B 103. They can also reroute the B 103 west of CI AV to stop at Ocean Pky/Cortelyou. then onto McDonald Av to stop at Church Av, eliminate the Albemarle Rd stop, and NB service continues on 11 Av onto the Prospect Expy. B 39 - mention here already send it to union sq. Someone please tell me how can I be in charge in operations planning. What b***$*** degree do I need to get to smack some idiots over there in the MTA LOL |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Jan 23 03:45:14 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:02:18 2010. They should combine the Q14 and Q34 already.If they really do away with the Q14 completely, that'll leave just the Q15 and Q16, and a bit of the Q76 serving greater Whitestone. The Q14 has great ridership really only during the rush hour, so perhaps a rush hour extension of the Q34 up 149th Street would do. Everyone else will just have to walk a bit further east to the Q15. I would suggest NYCT implement a two-transfer bus transfer system, for those people who would have to take an extra bus to get to downtown Flushing. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jan 23 04:00:48 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:24:16 2010. Its really 2/3 of Brooklyn service is a service cut.LOCAL B1: Instead of serving 13 Avenue and Bay Ridge Avenue to terminate at Xaverian High School, the route would run straight along 86 Street to terminate at the 86 Street (R) station. See also B64. B2: Reduce span of service (Cutting early AM and late at night runs); Weekend service discontinued. B3: Service along East 73/74 Streets discontinued. B4: Service east of the Coney Island Hospital area discontinued. B7: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B8: Service west of the VA Hospital to the 95 Street (R) discontinued except late nights. See also B70. B9: Reduce span of service (Cutting early AM and late at night runs) B11: Reduce span of service (Cutting early AM and late at night runs) B12: Service east of Alabama Avenue/the East New York Depot to be discontinued (Liberty Avenue service). B13 :Reduce span of service (Cutting early AM and late at night runs). Service west of Myrtle-Wyckoff (L/V) to be discontinued). Route returns to pre-1995 form. B14: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B16: Reduce span of service (Cutting early AM and late at night runs) B23: Service discontinued. B24: Reduce span of service (Cutting early AM and late at night runs); Weekend service discontinued. B31: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B37: Service discontinued. See also B70. B45: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B48: Service south of Fulton Street discontinued. B51: Service discontinued. B57: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. In addition, service is extended through Carroll Gardens along Smith and Court Streets, terminating at Smith-9 Streets (F/G). B61: Service extended along the current B77 route and along the 9 Street portion of the B75 to Bishop Ford High School. B64: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. In addition, service east of the Ulmer Park Depot to be discontinued (Harway Avenue service). In addition, B64 would run along 13 Avenue and Bay Ridge Avenue to Xaverian High School. See also B1. B65: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B67: Overnight service discontinued 1 AM to 5 AM, seven days a week. B69: Weekend service discontinued. In addition, service in Park Slope is rerouted onto 7 Avenue and extended to Kensington. B70: Service along 7 Avenue discontinued. Route re-routed along Bay Ridge Avenue and 3 Avenue to provide service to the 3 Avenue business district in Bay Ridge between Bay Ridge Avenue and Marine Avenue. Termini remain the same. B71: Service discontinued. B75: Route split between B57 and B61. B77: Merged into B61. EXPRESS X27: Weekend service eliminated. X28: Weekend service eliminated. X29: Service discontinued. X37: Service discontinued. X38: Service discontinued. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 23 04:09:39 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jan 23 04:00:48 2010. I rode the B103 all the way to Downtown Brooklyn and there was like no one waiting for the B37. B37 can just be served by the B103. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 23 04:16:02 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 23 04:09:39 2010. No one takes the B103 from Downtown Brooklyn outside of the rush hours either. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jan 23 04:24:54 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 23 04:16:02 2010. That is not true, there is still people riding outside hours to Downtown Brooklyn |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jan 23 07:28:56 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:24:16 2010. Sucks that UP midtown only express runs are getting cut. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by exgreenbusdriver on Sat Jan 23 08:01:44 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jan 23 07:28:56 2010. how is mtabus effected by the money problems the mta is having??? |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by R160A A Train on Sat Jan 23 08:34:56 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:02:18 2010. So the Q56 stays? |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 09:57:24 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sat Jan 23 07:28:56 2010. Actually, the X27 and X28 would be Manhattan-All Stops on weekdays, with weekend service cut. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 10:14:33 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by GOLD_12th on Sat Jan 23 04:24:54 2010. However, I do wonder if service should be reduced to hourly service to Downtown Brooklyn on Sundays (daily service remains intact).As for the B64/B82 situation, I wonder if the B82 should have service further reduced to Coney Island (except during summers) with the B64 and B82 alternating down lower Cropsey Avenue to provide service to the businesses near the end such as Home Depot, and to increase reliability on the B82. There has to be an Ulmer Park route that can be moved to Gleason to improve B82 reliability, which should be at least partially assigned to Ulmer Park, with no deadheads. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sat Jan 23 15:23:59 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:02:18 2010. My thing with them cutting Q79 service is that while Little Neck Parkway isnt a major destination, it would make commuting on that stretch a mess because you would have to use the Q30/36/43/46 and Q27 to loop around. You wouldnt even be able to get the Q12 without either taking the Q27 to Flushing or doing a 2 bus x-fer.X51: I dont see the point in them cutting this route yet somehow the QM3 (which I'm sure is even more of a waste) survives. At least combine the 2 routes Q42: can easily be replaced with the Q4 (every 3rd local bus serves that routing and makes a right on Sayres back to Merrick) |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sat Jan 23 15:32:33 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:56:14 2010. They've been trying to can the Bx18 since they got the Bx24 and its not going to happen people will fight the fact none of the other routes over there are decent alternatives.What is the MTA's fixation with chopping up the Co-op City service. If they just added LTD service on the Bx28 things could be left alone. that CC idea isnt going to fly with Bx8 riders at all and just looks bad |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 15:44:18 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Sat Jan 23 15:23:59 2010. The problem for me is eliminating Q31 weekend service, as that would now require going through Flushing. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jan 23 15:48:42 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 23 04:16:02 2010. Not as many since they can just take the subway, but there was at least 7 people on the bus [me included]. The bus before me [ended at Av H and Nostrand] was packed. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat Jan 23 15:52:54 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 02:34:07 2010. What is POOL service? |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 23 16:19:59 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 10:14:33 2010. The B1 should go to Gleason, IIRC peak direction is from Bay Ridge in the morning. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 23 16:32:23 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by R160A A Train on Sat Jan 23 08:34:56 2010. Yeah. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by B1bus on Sat Jan 23 21:42:12 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 10:14:33 2010. B64 serves John Dewey HS.. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx |
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Posted by B1bus on Sat Jan 23 21:48:11 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat Jan 23 15:52:54 2010. Baretto Park shuttle. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn |
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Posted by B1bus on Sat Jan 23 21:50:36 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn, posted by B49 Limited on Sat Jan 23 03:28:45 2010. B3 was cut years ago, and was put back in a matter of months.B64 directly serves John Dewey HS. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by David on Sat Jan 23 22:05:48 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 23 16:19:59 2010. True, but riding is much heavier on the southern/eastern part of the route, so much so that when Kingsborough College is in session a great deal of short service is operated between either 86th Street & Stillwell Avenue or the Ocean Parkway subway station and the college. That makes running the route out of Ulmer Park Depot much more cost-effective than running it out of Gleason.David |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by David on Sat Jan 23 22:10:34 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by B1bus on Sat Jan 23 21:42:12 2010. I went to Dewey (admittedly when the buses had square wheels made out of stone and were pulled by dinosaurs), but I don't remember any great number of Dewey students riding the B64. Has that changed?David |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 23 22:13:21 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 10:14:33 2010. why should service be reduced for ANY REASON?WHY should we take this crap from the MTA...INSTEAD WE SHOULD BE OUT THERE IN THEIR FACES TELLING THEM THEY BETTER NOT CUT SHIT...FIND THE DAMN FUNDING OR GO ON A DIET. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Jan 23 22:15:12 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:02:18 2010. I'm amazed that the Q84 managed to escape being cut while the Q75 gets cut. Of course, the Q75 is basically overlapped by other routes, so if you have an unlimited card, it's only time that's being lost while transferring, while for pay-per-ride users, it's going to be a pain if they use their transfers already while getting to the Q75...Q79: Service discontinued. I think they're going to have to start paying home-care workers enough to own cars... |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 22:19:13 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Bronx, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat Jan 23 15:52:54 2010. POOL---Barretto Park Point shuttle; the rear sign carries the route code POOL. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sat Jan 23 22:33:41 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 23 22:13:21 2010. They have to cut. While some percentage of their deficit is due to malfeasance, I do not believe that this number is 100%. The main issues are making sure that a realistic budget comes out of this and that the cuts are reasonable.Paterson cut another $104M from their general fund allocation. I'm just waiting for the remaining payroll tax shortfall. I am guessing that there is another $100M to fall behind. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus |
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Posted by R40SlantontheB on Sat Jan 23 22:42:55 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:27:41 2010. And also getting rid of Jones Beach bus service is shooting themselves in the foot, those bus lines are one of LIB's biggest money makers. No buses to Jones Beach would make Robert Moses proud.At least you'll be able to get to the beach in Suffolk! |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by B1bus on Sat Jan 23 23:21:38 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by David on Sat Jan 23 22:10:34 2010. I was there when you were there. You were 1 year ahead of me. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 23:31:21 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus, posted by R40SlantontheB on Sat Jan 23 22:42:55 2010. The per-ridership average doesn't appear to agree with you. The only real surprise is the N26. IMO, what that should be changed to is extended Q46 service. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 23 23:33:43 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus, posted by R40SlantontheB on Sat Jan 23 22:42:55 2010. Agreed, Jones Beach buses are packed after concerts and on summer weekends. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Sat Jan 23 23:34:04 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Queens, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Sat Jan 23 22:15:12 2010. "I'm amazed that the Q84 managed to escape being cut while the Q75 gets cut. Of course, the Q75 is basically overlapped by other routes, so if you have an unlimited card, it's only time that's being lost while transferring, while for pay-per-ride users, it's going to be a pain if they use their transfers already while getting to the Q75..."With the Q75, you don't really have that far to travel to get to Springfield Blvd to get bus service (Q27). As for the Q84, you are basically in "NO MAN'S LAND". Meaning, you ain't got shit near you. Especailly on 120th Av EAST of Francis Lewis Blvd to the last stop. Also, along 120th Av between Springfield Blvd and Farmers Blvd is a HUGE distance. Oh yeah, one more thing.....the Q84 has MORE RIDERSHIP than the Q75. So um yeah....that's another reason why the Q84 is not being cut. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Sat Jan 23 23:36:22 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 03:27:41 2010. *jaw drops* Wow, is MTA essentially discontinuing Long Island Bus?Did these services have ANY merit at all? Would federal funding, like the Job Access Reverse Commute Initiative, helped at all? |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jan 23 23:58:58 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals---Long Island Bus, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 23 23:33:43 2010. A private operator could charter buses to bring fans to and from Nikon Theater. |
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Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed) |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Jan 24 00:03:24 2010, in response to Re: MTA service cut proposals by borough---Brooklyn (All listed), posted by Edwards! on Sat Jan 23 22:13:21 2010. You see nothing wrong with empty buses riding around? |
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