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Posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 23:54:03 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 10 22:34:39 2016. Only a lie detector can prove if you're telling the truth. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 11 00:01:48 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 23:54:03 2016. Nope.Common sense will tell you hes a liar. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Mon Jul 11 02:27:52 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jul 10 11:20:23 2016. I have a feeling they might want to get rid of that portion entirely in the future. Just start short-turning more local buses at DeKalb (whether officially on the schedule, or unofficially by the dispatchers), and eventually you'll get ridership down to the point where you could justify eliminating the service (or maybe replacing it with an extended B47 or something if enough people are going west of Flushing Avenue)I remember a thread on NYCTF where somebody mentioned being kicked off a bus (at DeKalb) originally signed as going to WBP, and then having to wait like 35 minutes for an actual bus to WBP. FWIW, I remember the on/off data that showed that north of DeKalb, the busiest stops were Myrtle, Flushing, Marcy, and WBP itself. Myrtle & Flushing are served by the B47, and Flushing & Marcy are ADA accessible. If they could use federal BRT funds to make Kosciusko Street ADA accessible as part of the +SBS+ project, then you basically solve the whole problem. |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Mon Jul 11 02:43:00 2016, in response to B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jul 7 15:35:26 2016. I like the way they say "These service changes now allow bus customers on both New York Avenue and Rogers Avenue to reach important destinations north of Fulton Street, where the local and SBS routes travel together on Bedford Avenue."I'm not sure what major destinations are north of Fulton Street besides WBP itself. There's a lot of turnover at Fulton itself, so there's not that many passengers benefitting from it anyway. And it's not like the B44 is the only route connecting both sides of Fulton Street in that general area: The B43 & B48 do so as well. I think I might've mentioned it before, but I think the best solution would actually be to have the B44 local & SBS both run up Bedford/Nostrand, and send the B49 over to cover NY/Brooklyn Avenue (basically provide a route between the B44 & B46, and give the B49 another purpose besides being a super-local version of the Brighton Line). It could end at the Utica Avenue 3/4 station on the northern end, or simply end at the hospitals themselves) |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jul 11 09:27:31 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Edwards! on Mon Jul 11 00:01:48 2016. Only a lie detector will convince Goebbels he is lying. He has no common sense. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:06:57 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Mon Jul 11 02:43:00 2016. I am not sure of the advantage of the B44 local run up Bedford instead of NY Av and moving the B49 to NY / Brooklyn. I see what you are trying to do but I think the same thing could be accomplished without the needless complexity of having the B44 and B49 cross over one another.I outlined a plan with similar advantages without the extra complexity. Have the B49 continue up Ocean to Empire and go east to Utica. Move the B44 local to Rogers. And reroute the B43 to Kingston Brooklyn around the hospital and terminate there or go further south. Or else reroute some B46s to Albany south of Holy Cross and give it a new route number. Bedford is clogged with traffic and it would be better not to have any bus on it. Ocean Ave north of Foster is lined with six story apartment buildings with the exception of two blocks and could support a bus route. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:10:43 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by nostalgia on Sun Jul 10 23:50:05 2016. Then he would be like R30A, both scrapped. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Mon Jul 11 10:31:52 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Jul 11 10:10:43 2016. OWNED!! |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Jul 14 20:49:19 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jul 8 22:52:48 2016. You really have to measure dwell times separately for the SBS and the local. My gut feeling is that dwell times for the local skyrocketed while dwell times for the SBS showed some decrease but not enough to offset the increase in local dwell times.Part of this would be due to the fact that standard sized buses are used on the local while article with three doors are used on the SBS although the numbers of passengers carried by each are similar making the locals much more crowded. I also believe this increase in dwell times on the local is what caused those routine 40 minute waits until additional locals were added. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 07:20:13 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Jul 7 20:19:10 2016. Maybe I disagree with most things BrooklynBus has to say but at least I care enough to read his material. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 07:23:06 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 07:20:13 2016. Why would you read it if you know it's going to be wrong? What would be the point? |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 07:27:47 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 07:23:06 2016. Because I like to read and make a true comparison on what Allen wrote against the MTA and/or NYC DOT's findings. The 34th Street elevator is one example. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 15 08:33:36 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 07:27:47 2016. That's the difference between you and Whiny WHineberg. You have an open mind and you'll make an independent decision. OTOH, Goebbels WHineberg tries to slant the discussion and persuade people they are wrong to give Allen a chance.Goebbels is a "hater" who's jealous that Allen worked for the MTA and has been published in a newspaper. His insecurity and unhappiness in life causes him to lash out against the world and takes out his frustration on this list. You can't take him seriously with his penchant for changing what people write and then slamming them for what they didn't write. His goal is to manipulate listers. I'm glad you didn't fall for it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 15 11:26:37 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 15 08:33:36 2016. Stop it with the fucking Goebbels crap. It doesn't even make sense.You'd think that Godwin's Law would apply here, but apparently not. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 12:14:26 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 15 08:33:36 2016. The MTA has been wrong many times - - so was Allen.Proofreading is one deficiency that the MTA has. Allen's issue is not addressing all the facts. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 15 12:37:11 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 07:27:47 2016. Just to make it clear for Nostalgia, let me try to summarize what you are saying: You read his reports so that you can find everything wrong with them and then tell him about it. Correct? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 15 12:38:26 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 15 11:26:37 2016. nostalgia is obviously not very intelligent. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But it could his explain why he does what he does. |
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Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 13:03:10 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 15 12:37:11 2016. No - - I don't talk to him. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 15 13:24:12 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 13:03:10 2016. By "tell" I mean write. On BusChat. |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Fri Jul 15 14:07:33 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 12:14:26 2016. AGREED. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 14:33:21 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 12:14:26 2016. Yes, that is ONE of BrooklynBus's issues, but far from the only one. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 15:47:04 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 07:23:06 2016. And how could you be so sure without even looking at it, that is going to be wrong about EVERYTHING?Shows what a closed mind (if that is what you want to call it) you have. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 16:07:04 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Fri Jul 15 12:14:26 2016. Funny thing my basic criticism of the MTA's report is HOW THEY FAILED TO ADDRESS ALL THE FACTS.I named at least ten issues that needed to be addressed but weren't. So far I have discovered only two mistakes which I will correct when I have the chance. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 16:07:31 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 14:33:21 2016. Again mere accusations and no substance. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 16:08:40 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Jul 15 12:37:11 2016. Why only look for mistakes? How about reading it to learn something and start thinking? |
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Posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 15 16:25:28 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 15:47:04 2016. It's entirely possible, based on someone's track record, to assume that the ratio of worthwhile content to sheer nonsense will be so low that something the person writes is not worth bothering with. That's not a bit unfair or closed-minded. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:29:20 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 15 16:25:28 2016. Exactly. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:30:54 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 15:47:04 2016. Where did I say everything? I'm talking about enough of it being wrong that overall it has no redeeming value, especially considering the frustration of having to read such utter nonsense. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:31:36 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 16:07:04 2016. There shouldn't be ANY mistakes! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:33:03 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 16:07:31 2016. Huh? I have all the links that contain the substance of how wrong you are. No one doubts that except you and nostalgia and Edwards. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:34:32 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 16:08:40 2016. What if there's nothing to learn? And I was summarizing what he said. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 20:00:24 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:34:32 2016. You will never know unless you read it which you are obviously unwilling to do. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 20:00:24 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:34:32 2016. You will never know unless you read it which you are obviously unwilling to do. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 20:00:25 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:34:32 2016. You will never know unless you read it which you are obviously unwilling to do. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 20:00:25 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:34:32 2016. You will never know unless you read it which you are obviously unwilling to do. |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 15 22:34:34 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:34:32 2016. So you know everything? |
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Posted by nostalgia on Fri Jul 15 22:37:10 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 15 11:26:37 2016. Obviously, you don't know who Goebbels was. You should look it up. I've already explained the connection between Goebbels and Whiny WHineberg. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Jul 16 11:51:15 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by fdtutf on Fri Jul 15 16:25:28 2016. Except that your evaluation of the "track record" is totally WRONG. You are talking about someone who has a Masters in Urban Planning from Columbia, who has spent 11 years studying Booklyn Bus routes full time professionally, and who was responsible for the largest number or significant Brooklyn bus improvements in history until 1978. Someone who was hired by the MTA because of this experience and worked there for 25 years. Further he singlehandedly saved the MTA $4 million by finding a double payment error which the accountants missed and was the only one able to understand the overly complex payment schedule.It was so unintelligible that the head of Car Overhaul and the contractors couldn't even decipher it so it was referred to a team of lawyers on both sides who concluded my interpretation was correct and the $4 million was due the MTA. I also assisted in recovering and additional $38 million through insurance claims. After retiring 12 years ago, I had published numerous articles and letters in local newspapers, not to mention the one in 1975 in the New York Times about bus numbers. I wrote weekly for Sheepsheadbites publishing nearly 500 articles. If it all was a bunch of crap as you seem to think, they never would have allowed me to keep writing for that period of time. I firmly believe it was all my anti Vision Zero articles that got someone in the administration to apply some pressure to have me stop writing because the truth was embarrassing them too much. So in summary, I dare anyone of you to show me how your "track records" are superior to mine. You are just full of hot air and that goes for all my critics to constantly misstate what I write then accuse me of making statements I never made like pedestrian lives do not matter. |
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Posted by B1bus on Sat Jul 16 13:16:54 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:31:36 2016. Why don't you become a Transit Advocate and do something postive with your time instead of wasting it here every day? |
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Posted by Cornell Park on Sat Jul 16 16:45:48 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Jul 16 11:51:15 2016. I'm a little bit curious about this, Who wrote this for you? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 16 19:36:37 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 14:33:21 2016. And you KNOW you left your obnoxious ass open for interpretation,haven't you?Lets just say,perfectionism is surely a dream far from your reach. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 16 19:42:00 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:33:03 2016. He has his MOMENTS..But,YOU are the ONLY one HERE who is permanently out to lunch. YOU are the VERY LAST PERSON in the entire universe who should criticize someone,ever. Better stop being a fake ass bitch,and keep it 100. |
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Posted by Brooklynbus on Sat Jul 16 19:50:15 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Cornell Park on Sat Jul 16 16:45:48 2016. I wrote this. |
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Posted by Brooklynbus on Sat Jul 16 19:52:56 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:33:03 2016. Who cares what you have.Answer in plain English. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 16 21:20:19 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jul 15 19:30:54 2016. bump |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 16 21:20:45 2016, in response to Re: Do something postive with your time, posted by B1bus on Sat Jul 16 13:16:54 2016. Because you have no idea what you're talking about. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 16 21:21:15 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Edwards! on Sat Jul 16 19:42:00 2016. Thanks for the laughs, you old fart. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 16 21:21:47 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by Brooklynbus on Sat Jul 16 19:52:56 2016. I did answer in plain English. You're wrong almost all the time and I have all the links to prove it. END OF STORY. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 16 21:40:42 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Jul 16 11:51:15 2016. Except that your evaluation of the "track record" is totally WRONG.No it's not. We have the links to prove it. Someone who was hired by the MTA because of this experience and worked there for 25 years.Wrong. You didn't work there as a transportation planner for that whole time. Further he singlehandedly saved the MTA $4 million by finding a double payment error which the accountants missed and was the only one able to understand the overly complex payment schedule. It was so unintelligible that the head of Car Overhaul and the contractors couldn't even decipher it so it was referred to a team of lawyers on both sides who concluded my interpretation was correct and the $4 million was due the MTA. I also assisted in recovering and additional $38 million through insurance claims.That's not transportation planning. I wrote weekly for Sheepsheadbites publishing nearly 500 articles. If it all was a bunch of crap as you seem to think, they never would have allowed me to keep writing for that period of time.Wrong. The editors there are obviously clueless about transportation issues and falsely believed that your supposed credentials meant that you wouldn't be saying things that were blatantly and factually and logically incorrect. So in summary, I dare anyone of you to show me how your "track records" are superior to mine.Simple. Let's see who can't post more links showing incidents where the other person was utterly incorrect! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jul 16 21:42:19 2016, in response to Re: B44 Progress Report Released, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Jul 15 20:00:24 2016. You will never know unless you read it which you are obviously unwilling to do.It's entirely possible, based on someone's track record, to assume that the ratio of worthwhile content to sheer nonsense will be so low that something the person writes is not worth bothering with. That's not a bit unfair or closed-minded. |
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