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Re: Junius-Livonia transfer |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed Feb 10 11:23:21 2010, in response to Re: Junius-Livonia transfer, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 10 10:25:40 2010. From a previous message: "There probably isn't much demand for such a transfer, and any new construction must comply with the ADA (as well as bringing the entire station complex into compliance)."The "demand" issue is an interesting one. There probably is not enough demand by the respective local communities translated to the local political leadership transferred up the stream to the MTA brass. For example, if the folk who could benefit by this transfer do not speak up, then it is easy for those in charge to say, "few have expressed a concern". At the same time with budget issues a major concern, it is reasonable to try to limit the amount of "new initiatives". In another view - transit fans and others have talked about such a transfer for years. Mike |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by mr_brian on Wed Feb 10 11:50:30 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 00:35:04 2010. Posted by 33rd Street: LOL |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 13:43:51 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Feb 8 17:33:32 2010. I just hope the N as a local will fill the void of the W [and not regress to the levels of 'Never' 'Rarely']. The W does its job for both the Astoria line and Manhattan. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Wed Feb 10 13:55:49 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Michael549 on Mon Feb 8 22:17:21 2010. you should be fighting mad that many of the changes could be shelved if the selfish union locals would allow regional and other minor changes that would saves tens of millions this year |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Wed Feb 10 14:03:12 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by mr_brian on Wed Feb 10 11:50:30 2010. As each day goes by, I'm convinced that he's a joke character. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 14:07:11 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 00:35:04 2010. You can stop trolling now. Seriously.(Is this fellow a cipher for TS?) |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 14:13:54 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 14:07:11 2010. Why are you comparing me to Weinberg? |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 14:14:53 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by N6 Limited on Wed Feb 10 14:03:12 2010. I'm a joke? At least I have sufficient facts to prove the M-V combo is a disaster. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Feb 10 14:27:00 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Tue Feb 9 22:26:24 2010. Tall buildings going up is not the only sign that a neighborhood is booming. When housing projects got put up in neighborhoods around the city 50-60 years go (including the Lillian Wald Houses on Avenue D), were those neighborhoods booming? Of course not!I don't believe you. Your word is not good enough. I trust my own eyes way more than what you post on this message board. I don't care if you live the neighborhood or halfway around the world. You talk about proving that the V train is needed far more at 2nd Avenue and Houston Street than it is in Ridgewood/Middle Village or Park Slope/Kensington. You haven't proven a damn thing about that. There is only one thing that you've proven since you started trolling this message board - that the only area that counts is yours and the rest of the city can go to hell as far as you're concerned. Well, why don't you lead the way there? |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Feb 10 14:31:11 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Sun Feb 7 17:51:01 2010. Because you engage in the same name-calling, know-it-all behavior he does. Well, at least he seems to disagree with you on this issue. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 15:33:13 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Wed Feb 10 14:27:00 2010. or Park Slope/KensingtonAlthough I did state in the past thet I don't want the V to go to Church Avenue but since the M-V combo is being discussed, I wouldn't mind the V to go to Church Avenue. Just to let you know, the MTA doesn't give a damn about the East Village. Look at service and passenger loads on the M14, look how the M21 is treated, and how the M15 isn't a SBS operation at the moment. Does that tell you anything about how bad the TA decides to treat the East Village? |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 17:37:56 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Tue Feb 9 22:38:04 2010. That's the problem here,isn't it...?Everyone else is thinking illogical...while YOU,aren't.. Right? I ALWAYS THINK LOGICALLY... It's how I manage my business,my contracts..my private affairs. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 17:46:16 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Tue Feb 9 23:57:44 2010. Not the most selfish thing you've said...yet pretty close.That being said..since I WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THIS SERVICE CHANGE IN BOTH GOOD AND BAD WAYS...THE SAME CAN BE SAID FOR YOU AND YOURS. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Wed Feb 10 17:48:54 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 15:33:13 2010. Bx12 is the test line for SBS and even that line isn't perfect along with some people still not paying, and that's a 'crosstown line'*.Also SBS is more ideal using artics with 3 doors over 2. There's not enough of those 3-door buses to cover just the Bx12 SBS, let alone the M15. *where it doesn't matter if people pays as they are likely going to transfer to another line: bus or train. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 17:57:03 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 00:35:04 2010. LOL..!You are gettin funnier by the day. Keep up the good work! |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 18:02:37 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 14:13:54 2010. Mainly on relentlessness. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 18:03:52 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Tue Feb 9 23:57:44 2010. Have you shown any facts here?Everyone's waiting for you to do so. |
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Re: Grand Street Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 18:13:43 2010, in response to Grand Street Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Feb 10 05:21:06 2010. Wasn't always that way... |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 18:25:10 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 14:14:53 2010. no..you haven't.What you DID do was post out of the blue numbers...that could have come from anywhere. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:04:15 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 18:25:10 2010. Out of the blue numbers? Just for the record, I have ridership figures dating back to 1904. This information came directly from the MTA. I consider myself a type of person who meantions things when he has the facts to prove what needs to be stated. I don't see you as well as the rest of the people who post facts about how the M-V combo is a disaster waiting to happen. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:09:23 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 18:03:52 2010. Yes I have. Read every single post I've made regarding the M-V combo. At least I posted hardcore evidence unlike the rest of you. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:13:14 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 17:46:16 2010. Selfish? You are making it seem like that you want me to lower my guard down just so people could make me look like a fool. Plenty of people have tried doing that to me in the past and it failed every time. Would you like it if the TA cut a train line from a station that needs it as well as bus restructuring? I'd think not. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:16:01 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 17:37:56 2010. I'm thinking very logically about this subject. People are too afraid to admit that I proven more facts as well as other factors when they couldn't do the exact thing. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 20:35:33 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:13:14 2010. "..you want me to lower my guard down just so people could make me look like a fool..."You nailed it right on the head...I want You to look foolish..[yawn...!] I said it from the begining..you argue for self..only for self. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 20:40:40 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:09:23 2010. What "hardcore evidence.."?All I've seen was drivel..from a basket case. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:51:02 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 20:40:40 2010. Are you trying to get me really, really, pissed off at this moment? Just wanted to make sure. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:52:13 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 20:35:33 2010. Hardy har, har. Tyring to make me a fool would in turn make YOU look like the fool. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 20:55:27 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:52:13 2010. Tyring to make me a fool would in turn make YOU look like the foolWhat's "tyring"? |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 20:56:47 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:09:23 2010. Read every single post I've made regarding the M-V comboAlready been there. Rhetoric is not proof. And why should I torture myself again? |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Feb 10 21:04:57 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 10 20:55:27 2010. 10/10 |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 21:13:33 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:04:15 2010. I don't care.I hate the V train.. I hate the fact that they want to replace my M train with it. I hate the fact that this is the SAME train that forced my G train to end at a wasteland station...and now invades my neighborhood. The SAME TRAIN. I hate the fact that YOU think the world owes you something..and you whine about it like some kid. Therefore ..I hate EVERYTHING about this service change...and I hate YOU because of it. Do You understand me? Do you think that was over the top? LOL.. That is what you sound like..everyday. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 21:20:50 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:51:02 2010. Why would I care if you get "pissed off" or not?What could you do,becides get Pissed off at your keyboard? |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 21:22:01 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:52:13 2010. sorry brah..you make yourself look foolish enough..without anyones help. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 21:23:32 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 20:52:13 2010. sorry brah..you make yourself look foolish enough..without anyones help.just read your post.. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 21:54:00 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 21:13:33 2010. Just the response I was looking for. I'm glad thet you admit the fact that you hate me. Your post wasn't over the top. I took your post and I'm happy that you are being honest. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Feb 10 22:34:22 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 00:35:04 2010. Until 2004, the Chrystie Street connector has served me well with a one seat ride between Brooklyn and the Bronx. It still does to a lesser extent.Since you wished the CSC was never constructed, what use would it be to retain the Nassau Street loop connector as it originally was pre-1967? Expect more than a million people to use it each weekday????????????? |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Feb 10 22:35:41 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Feb 10 22:34:22 2010. Correction, until 2001 I got that one seat ride. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Feb 10 22:48:22 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 21:54:00 2010. Damn...I can't believe this. Are you THAT DENSE that you don't understand sarcasm OR humor? Did You NOT understand my post was "dry humor"? I WAS correct about you..you are very immature. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 23:21:48 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Feb 10 22:34:22 2010. I'll retract my prior statement the day the track connection between the 6th Avenue and Nassau lines is completely severed. I'm just sick of this whole M-V combo. It gives a couple of neighborhoods a chance to screw over an area that has to deal with buses on a daily basis. It can be compared to sending the J down Brighton when Brighton residents want Midtown, not Lower Manhattan. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by rr4567 on Thu Feb 11 01:57:18 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by G1Ravage on Tue Feb 2 21:15:52 2010. ___|A| FAR ROCKAWAY --- |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Feb 11 02:01:23 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 23:21:48 2010. Out of curiosity, how many times have you been on/seen a SRO V after B'way Lafayette?You act like your the only one that lives in a neighborhood that has to rely heavily on buses. What about everyone in East/NE/SE Queens that is forced to sit on buses for at the very least 20 mins just to hit a terminal train station? I'm pretty sure in the time it would take you to walk from your house to your nearest station, I wouldn't be a quarter of the way to the E or F on the bus from my house. If the bus service by you is that bad write the TA a letter, talk to some politicians or just move instead of just ranting here. And please explain to me how sending the J down Brighton is the same as the M-V combo... |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 02:48:32 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 14:14:53 2010. Or so you believe. You're just a crybaby who's upset at losing "your train." |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 02:51:52 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Feb 11 02:01:23 2010. Out of curiosity, how many times have you been on/seen a SRO V after B'way Lafayette?On occasion I've seen that. In some cases people get off the V at Broadway-Lafayette just to avoid the guess the platform game at 2nd Avenue. You act like your the only one that lives in a neighborhood that has to rely heavily on buses. Try telling that to those who live along the FDR drive from Delancey to 10th Streets. There are dependent on buses just as I am. In addition, ask anybody that lives in Baruch Houses and Masaryk Towers how they feel by being forced to take the M14 on a daily basis. If you haven't looked at bus ridership statistics, the M14 is far more busier than any of the bus lines that serves most pars of Queens. Does that tell you something? And please explain to me how sending the J down Brighton is the same as the M-V combo... Its called making a comparision. Almost everybody does it once a week. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 02:53:24 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 23:21:48 2010. That is such a poor comparison. 2nd Avenue will still have access to Midtown with the F. The V is superfluous there. The only reason the V runs to 2nd is because without sending it to the Eastern Division there's no other place to terminate it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 02:54:21 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 02:51:52 2010. And the M14 is oh so relevant to 2nd Avenue. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 03:08:52 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 02:54:21 2010. I was trying to point out that the East Village needs far more help than Ridgewod and Middle Village. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 03:12:37 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 02:53:24 2010. Supposedly if there isn't a track connection from the 6th Avenue to Nassau lines in Manhattan? Would you say anything different? |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Thu Feb 11 03:24:46 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 02:51:52 2010. You trying to tell me you've seen fully packed Vs leaving for 2nd Av? Jamaica-179 & Jamaica Center have higher ridership and even in the middle of rush hour trains are infrequently SRO pulling into those stops.If you plan on making comparisons, make a valid one. Sending the J via Brighton wouldn't improve upon that corridor or make better use of the J. The V for its entirety duplicates other lines and 2 AV was literally the only place they could turn it, the M combo makes it useful by providing a Midtown connection from the Eastern Div. I'm not discussing ridership on the M14, I'm saying that neighborhood is nowhere near as reliant on buses. You can make it to a train station walking and theres the M8,M9,M14A/D and M21. In comparison I have all of the Q30(20 min walk) Q43 (10 min walk), Q46 and Q79 (miserable headways) just to get to a train or LIRR. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Feb 11 04:09:54 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 11 03:12:37 2010. But there is. Now if there WEREN'T, then I would say that 2nd is the best location for a terminal. Which is exactly what I said in my previous post. |
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Re: New V train transfers |
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Posted by Eric B on Thu Feb 11 10:20:09 2010, in response to Re: New V train transfers, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 10 23:21:48 2010. You want to switch places then? You come over here to Myrtle-Wyckoff, and then you'll get your V back. I'll take your place in Manhattan, and be able to get to almost any work place (subway terminal) in less than an hour, and not be limited to the North. I could go back to the South (CI) and not have the headache traveling anymore. I remember waiting for the F to get to Essex, and the V's would come, and I was still only half way home. Sure wish I could have lived there, because whenever the F would come, I would be home in minutes. I could go back and forth to the A Div. for more variety. And then off duty, just a few minutes to Midtown.Living anywhere in Manhattan would be a privilege, even without the V. It's still very central. |
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