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Re: TEAR DOWN LOWER EAST SIDE-2ND AVE TERMINAL |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 00:43:18 2010, in response to Re: TEAR DOWN LOWER EAST SIDE-2ND AVE TERMINAL, posted by B49 Limited on Thu Feb 4 00:31:52 2010. 2nd Avenue sits smack-dab in the border of the Lower East Side & the East Village. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 4 01:07:54 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 3 23:33:09 2010. A terrible case of 'groundhog's day'. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:08:54 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 3 22:59:41 2010. doesn't show. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:12:29 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 3 23:33:09 2010. it is what it is... |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 01:16:29 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:08:54 2010. True story, when I was in the tenth grade, a girl thought I was a teacher.Does that tell you something? |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:31:02 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 01:16:29 2010. yes..delusional dreams of grandeur..a hyper sense of self importance which explains your objections of loosing YOUR V TRAIN. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:34:50 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 3 02:02:14 2010. LOL!Funny man. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:43:02 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 3 01:25:50 2010. You must be including yourself..since you post here also.Sad little man. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 01:51:36 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:34:50 2010. Was there a noise just now?Nothing here! |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 01:53:14 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:43:02 2010. Where did I include myself in that post? Sad little man? You are sadly mistaken dude. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 4 01:53:54 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 3 23:34:21 2010. Because you don't WANT to believe it:If you used common sense, you would realize the former M and most J riders won't be clogging the F at Delancey once the new V starts (as they'll either stay on the V or make a same platform transfer to the V at Essex). Lose those riders, and suddenly you have considerably more room at 2nd Avenue when the F arrives there. If you weren't so upset about losing YOUR one-seat ride on the V where you didn't have to stand you would realize this. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 02:01:44 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 01:53:14 2010. You included yourself when you call folks wanting the new route "spineless foamers".. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 02:02:49 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 3 22:57:51 2010. no ..you didn't. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 02:20:39 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 4 01:53:54 2010. Show me the numbers or your post doesn't hold water. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 02:21:29 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 02:01:44 2010. I don't consider myself to be a foamer. |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 02:22:11 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 01:31:02 2010. ...and your point is? |
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Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 4 02:24:36 2010, in response to Re: Will ridership increase with the M/V train merger., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 3 02:17:44 2010. lol, that'll be animal cruelty :) |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 02:26:48 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Edwards! on Thu Feb 4 02:02:49 2010. Oh Lord. You really need to do some research. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 4 02:36:44 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 02:20:39 2010. Again:You are not using common sense. If you did, you would realize the new V train will take serious pressure off the F train, leading to a much-less crowded F train when it gets to 2nd Avenue. Where do you think the crowds for the F come from? While not all of it for sure, a good chunk of it currently gets on at Essex-Delancey, which will end when the new V train starts since most of those will either stay on the V or make a transfer to the V at Essex. |
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Re: TEAR DOWN LOWER EAST SIDE-2ND AVE TERMINAL |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Feb 4 04:49:16 2010, in response to Re: TEAR DOWN LOWER EAST SIDE-2ND AVE TERMINAL, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 00:43:18 2010. pick...pick...pick |
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Re:WILL OLOG-HAIIII STOP REMOVING THE TOPIC LABEL AND BE NORMAL?, |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Feb 4 05:08:11 2010, in response to Re:, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 3 22:19:24 2010. Yeah, you should know about Zoloft |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Eric B on Thu Feb 4 09:17:13 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Wed Feb 3 21:30:38 2010. It would be interesting if more people preferred lower Manhattan to midtown, but, being made aware of the possibility for midtown service, then demanded it on weekends. Then, the V would be free to run to Church Ave. on weekdays (which would be more "natural"), and to Met on weekends. (would be nice to have weekday evenings as well, but thatwould get more complicated in transitioning).At the public hearings, we'll see. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Feb 4 09:57:30 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Feb 3 23:03:18 2010. You don't realize it because all you see is your losing YOUR being able to sit on the V at 2nd Avenue and take that.This is why none of his arguments have any merit. As soon as he outright stated this, he lost all credibility on this subject. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 4 10:31:31 2010, in response to Re:WILL OLOG-HAIIII STOP REMOVING THE TOPIC LABEL AND BE NORMAL?,, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Feb 4 05:08:11 2010. I know nothing about it. So are you admitting to be streetcarman? |
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Re: WILL OLOG-HAIIII STOP REMOVING THE TOPIC LABEL AND BE NORMAL? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Feb 4 10:39:58 2010, in response to Re: WILL OLOG-HAIIII STOP REMOVING THE TOPIC LABEL AND BE NORMAL?, posted by mr_brian on Wed Feb 3 20:43:22 2010. Wow, original DOOM screenshot, with the chainsaw no less...iddqd |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Feb 4 11:32:16 2010, in response to Re:, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Feb 3 22:19:24 2010. "Yeah . . . Zoloft time for himz. "I see you're so familiar with those types of medications....hmmm....makes us ALL wonder about you...lol...nite Lucy |
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Re:WILL OLOG-HAIIII STOP REMOVING THE TOPIC LABEL AND BE NORMAL?, |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Feb 4 11:32:34 2010, in response to Re:WILL OLOG-HAIIII STOP REMOVING THE TOPIC LABEL AND BE NORMAL?,, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Feb 4 05:08:11 2010. IAWTP |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Feb 4 11:33:51 2010, in response to Re:, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 4 10:31:31 2010. He's admitting you know alot more about those types of medication....than you're letting us know...nite Gracie... |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 13:09:41 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 4 02:36:44 2010. Not using common sense? How funny...NOTYou still haven't given me some numbers. Until you do so, stay very quiet. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 4 19:36:48 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 13:09:41 2010. Sorry, but common sense dictates that the new V line will see former M along with J passengers either staying on the V or transferring to the V as opposed to going down to get the F at Essex-Delancey.THAT right there takes pressure off the F. You just don't want to hear the obvious. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 4 19:39:26 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Feb 4 09:57:30 2010. Exactly!!Anyone with half a brain would realize that the new V will take considerable pressure off the F at Essex-Delancey just from the fact former M riders who want midtown will stay on the V and the J riders looking for midtown will for the most part stay on the platform at Essex and get the V since that will now be one less stop than the F going to midtown. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 20:08:31 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 4 19:39:26 2010. I want to see some numbers that proves this. Otherwise, don't bother responding. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 20:10:47 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Feb 4 19:36:48 2010. What does common sense have anything to do with this subject? Quit dodging what I wrote and give us some goddamned statistics. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Feb 4 20:16:45 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 20:08:31 2010. Does anyone have any numbers? |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Feb 4 22:45:12 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Feb 4 20:16:45 2010. I'm sure that NYCT's Operations Planning department either have done observations of the number of passengers changing to the F at Essex or will likely do so when the new service is implemented or more than likely both as a means of comparing loading both before and after. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 5 00:40:13 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by randyo on Thu Feb 4 22:45:12 2010. Right:The people that matter are the ones who have the numbers. I'm just using plain old logic, something 33rd Street apparently doesn't want to see because he will be losing HIS one-seat ride on the V to midtown and will have to stand on a less-crowded F train than it currently is under the old setup. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 00:51:29 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 5 00:40:13 2010. I'm just using plain old logic, something 33rd Street apparently doesn't want to see because he will be losing HIS one-seat ride on the V to midtown and will have to stand on a less-crowded F train than it currently is under the old setup.Have it your way. You don't want to prove it to me, then I don't feel sorry for you one bit. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 5 01:44:47 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Feb 4 20:10:47 2010. "What does common sense have to do with the subject...?"That's a question YOU should seriously ponder....as you have shown a serious lack of it.Are You THAT far gone that you would even ask that? You can't be serious..can you? I almost bust a gut reading that nonsense! Berating Wallyhorse and others only makes you look more immature than usual. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 5 01:46:31 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by randyo on Thu Feb 4 22:45:12 2010. Right...we KNOW this...Yet he doesn't think so because he DOESN'T THINK SO! It would be sad if it wasn't so funny. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 5 02:39:02 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 00:51:29 2010. Um:If you want to see a neighborhood that needs a second line desperately, try my old stomping grounds, the upper east side. That neighborhood has the densest population of any area likely not only in New York, but the entire country. I used to have to either walk or take a shuttle bus the building I used to live in had over to the 77th Street station on Lexington Avenue to take an overcrowded 6 train (even at night) on my errands (and this was in the 1980s when the subways were in much worse shape than today). When the SAS is finally built, even the stubway to 96th will be a massive improvement, but even that is still going to only relieve the crowds on the Lexington Avenue lines ever so much. THAT's why I have little sympathy about your losing the V at 2nd Avenue because of it being merged with the M in something that is long overdue and needed. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 09:57:25 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Feb 5 02:39:02 2010. THAT's why I have little sympathy about your losing the V at 2nd Avenue because of it being merged with the M in something that is long overdue and needed.How about this instead, a track connection between the Nassau and Broadway lines at Canal Street. The V line could continue to terminate at 2nd Avenue and the M and W lines could be combined. Would you be happy if the TA ever did that? |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 09:58:44 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Edwards! on Fri Feb 5 01:44:47 2010. Berating Wallyhorse and others only makes you look more immature than usual.I'm starting to believe Wallyhorse is a foamer. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Feb 5 10:34:12 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 09:57:25 2010. This exists, sort of, but it goes the wrong way. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Feb 5 10:35:08 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 09:58:44 2010. Says the guy whose primary argument against a service change is that service at ONE station that HE uses would be curtailed. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 11:36:48 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Feb 5 10:35:08 2010. Would you like it if the TA were to take away a subway line from YOUR station? Pick your poison. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Eric B on Fri Feb 5 11:42:54 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 09:57:25 2010. That's something I had just been thinking would have been better.I think the V really should go to Church Ave, but then my area really needs the midtown service, and it's just too many things connecting to 6th Avenue. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 5 14:31:46 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 11:36:48 2010. I see the new brain they got you exploded too. Now go clean up . . . |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Feb 5 15:11:46 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 11:36:48 2010. You haven't learned a thing have you? |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 15:43:51 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by 33rd Street on Fri Feb 5 11:36:48 2010. Maybe he wouldn't, but he'd realize that his complaints against it would probably be groundless and selfish. |
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Re: Essex-Delancey Station |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Feb 5 16:14:34 2010, in response to Re: Essex-Delancey Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 15:43:51 2010. That's the point. |
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