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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 8 04:42:15 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 7 23:03:28 2010. Nothing wrong there:It's just this merger (M/V) makes sense on a bunch of fronts and should happen regardless of budget cuts anyway. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 8 04:47:41 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by randyo on Fri Jan 8 04:14:27 2010. That explains why they sent me out to Myrtle then ... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 06:22:43 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 01:02:46 2010. No, you claimed there were word games. There were none. Try again. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 06:23:05 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 01:03:39 2010. A post...? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 8 07:05:23 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Jan 7 19:12:33 2010. No that's dumb, and what does it matter if it's not kept a "secret" no more? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 07:23:47 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 8 04:47:41 2010. Your D train turned at Myrtle/Bway? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 07:46:24 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 07:23:47 2010. Selkirk doesn't always tell the truth. Far from it. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 09:02:55 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 06:22:43 2010. No i said you was playing word games..I stand by what i said.. Try Again... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 09:03:32 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 06:23:05 2010. A post you said was factual right? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 09:07:58 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 07:46:24 2010. What he said wasn't factual?Where he went or the equipment? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Fri Jan 8 10:15:36 2010, in response to Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 6 17:46:19 2010. some point in the late 80's early 90's i used to take D from Kings Hwy to 204th every Saturday morning, dropping my girlfriend off at her moms apt. fwir it was at least an hour and a half ride each way. read a few books... |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 10:52:12 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 7 23:03:28 2010. I would call this post flamage against me. Don't start with me. You're an asshole for thinking NYCT OP people read SubChat to get ideas about service plans.It takes one pompous ass to know one, same thing with being a stupid person. |
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Posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jan 8 10:53:22 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jan 7 21:37:48 2010. It would be nice if they extend the V to Metropolitan Ave, and Build a station/Transfer @ Union Ave to the G. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 10:54:14 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 00:45:26 2010. Are you saying I have an attitude problem?Nothing can be farther from the truth. I am a straight shooter. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 10:56:49 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 00:33:47 2010. Thank you. Yes, this is the internet and this isn't always the kindest place, but I will not stand for being flamed by some young punk who I am old enough to be his father. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 10:56:56 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 10:54:14 2010. No Bill he wanst saying it was you..Then again i have no idea who those two was disscussing anyway.. You give it you get it. |
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Posted by znufrii on Fri Jan 8 10:58:04 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jan 7 21:29:15 2010. and if they wanted to restore it, and at the same time, keep the M/V combo, couldn't they just extend the J for rush-hours? |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 11:08:20 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 8 04:42:15 2010. I've said it before and I'll say it again.NEVER in the history of this board has the same subject been bought up over and over and over again with the same arguments pro and can made by the same individuals, particularly you. Basically I don't even read these responses because there are so many and always repeated. TP the webmaster ought to change the name of this board to "M/V Merger Chat". So I may as well jump back into the fray and repeat what I've said over and over and over jsut like everybody else: to you the merger makes sense, but it inconveniences every passenger that has to get off the M (or V whatever the hell they'll call it) to change for the J to get to lower Manhattan. And passengers off the J will continue go downstairs for the F becasue there are more F's then M/V's by 2:1. Or they'll crowd the stairway and run down when the F comes in and hold the doors for everybody else delaying it from leaving. If there is a merger, it will be made only for budgetary reasons and not for the convenience of passengers. As I said yesterday, but it got lost in the myraid of responses: the politicos in the areas served by the M and J will not take this quietly. They will not want it. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 11:13:10 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 11:08:20 2010. As I said yesterday, but it got lost in the myraid of responses: the politicos in the areas served by the M and J will not take this quietly. They will not want it.They will raise cane thats for sure! |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 11:32:52 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by N6 Limited on Fri Jan 8 10:53:22 2010. One thing always leads to another,It would be nice, IF THEY HAD THE MONEY! MONEY is what it's all about. The renovation of Hewes and Lormier sealed the deal that this would never happen. If it were, those stations would be closed and a new station would have been built as a transfer center. Oh yeah, then y'all be unhappy when the station would be served by local trains only! LOL |
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Posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jan 8 11:35:12 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 11:32:52 2010. The ridership on the West End line is going to Midtown, not Downtown and this would reduce delays on southbound R trains when southbound M trains are held up at 36th St and northbound R trains before it goes into 36th St as well as southbound D trains at 20th Av in which all the time, it has to wait for a southbound M train to clear at Bay Parkway. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 12:12:50 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 09:02:55 2010. I know what you said. I can read. And I responded to what you said (No word games. I mean exactly what I said.). Why do you insist in going around in circles like this? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 12:15:22 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 09:03:32 2010. No, said his previous post where he said RTO employees had attitude problems was the one that was correct. I did not say his post about Bill was correct. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 12:16:44 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 09:07:58 2010. Huh? I just said he doesn't always tell the truth. I didn't say he never tells the truth. I don't know which case that post falls into, nor did I claim to. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:25:46 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 12:12:50 2010. Nice try in using the tactic i use when you act childish...As i said i stand by what i said. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:28:00 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 12:15:22 2010. No, said his previous post where he said RTO employees had attitude problems was the one that was correctYou give it you get it... I did not say his post about Bill was correct. Which we both agree with ... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:29:02 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 12:16:44 2010. I don't know which case that post falls into, nor did I claim to.So you just opened your mouth for the heck of it.. Got you... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:30:31 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 12:12:50 2010. In other words stop it with the words games...Can you read that? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:31:07 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:30:31 2010. In other words stop it with the word games...Can you read that? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 12:41:08 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:31:07 2010. Dude...stop wasting your time.By NOW..YOU KNOW he only does what he does to cause disruption..flood the board with foolishness. The more problems...the more he gets off on it. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:45:20 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 12:41:08 2010. Cry for attention i guess? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 12:52:31 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 11:08:20 2010. Not so....The service plan is a pretty good idea that should have been retained a long time ago. If the "side effects" of the service reroute would help other lines such as the L and J.. what the problem? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 12:56:31 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Thu Jan 7 18:42:33 2010. Consideration is better than nothing.Plainly speaking,Bill...it makes sense...and hopefully the TA will realize that...not to mention how much it would save on travel for a whole slew of folks heading for Midtown. Its a good idea.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 12:58:22 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 12:45:20 2010. More than that.... |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:08:24 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 12:52:31 2010. For every person it helps it screws some another person.As I said 10 times a year every time this M/V thing is bought up, it screws M riders who have to make a new transfer at Essex to the J to get to lower Manhattan who lose their current one seat ride. Some even have another transfer to make to the IRT they already make at Chambers or Fulton. But all the supporters of this conveniently ignore this FACT to bolster their own justification. If this is a go, and if you look at the beginning of this subthread Zman re-emphasizes this is NOT a done deal, politicos along the J/M lines will yell like Vallone is yelling about losing the W. That's BfM's stand. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 13:08:27 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by znufrii on Fri Jan 8 10:58:04 2010. Yes. Either that, or send an "M train" from Bay Parkway to Chambers St like the old RR used to do until the 80's. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 13:10:34 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 12:58:22 2010. I see.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 13:11:49 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 11:08:20 2010. If there is a merger, it will be made only for budgetary reasons and not for the convenience of passengers. As I said yesterday, but it got lost in the myraid of responses: the politicos in the areas served by the M and J will not take this quietly. They will not want it. That is an opinion, not fact. There are many in these communities effected that WOULD be for this. It effects just about ever person that gets off at Wyckoff, as well as the transfers at other Nassau stations, headed back uptown. This goes WAY beyond just "Essex and Delancey", but for some reason, you can never see past that particular station. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:14:19 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 13:08:27 2010. You're not getting both a M/V combo and a rush hour south Brooklyn to Chambers St. service.For one thing, you won't have enough 4 car units (NYCT has plans to get rid of old tech R32/42) and secondly what do you do with those crews on your rush hour only service the rest of their work day? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 13:18:41 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 13:11:49 2010. It's a waste of time trying to explain the benefits of such a reroute.He KNOWS already... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 13:20:25 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 13:11:49 2010. There are many in these communities effected that WOULD be for this. It effects just about ever person that gets off at Wyckoff, as well as the transfers at other Nassau stations, headed back uptown. This goes WAY beyond just "Essex and Delancey", but for some reason, you can never see past that particular station.Bill did say that in his posts or did i misread it? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 13:20:46 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:14:19 2010. Well..thats a problem the MTA SET ITSELF UP WITH by not ordering married pairs. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 8 13:22:21 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:14:19 2010. Those crews can work trips on the line that works all day like we used to do on the KK and K. KK runs would make a KK trip from either Jamaica or E/Pky to 57/6 and back to either of the south terminals and then make a trip on the QJ from 168 to either Stl in the case of AM runs or Broad St on PM runs. |
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Posted by znufrii on Fri Jan 8 13:22:57 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by N6 Limited on Thu Jan 7 18:02:44 2010. but you'd have to switch back for E and F local service, is the point, unless you're going to swap those as well. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 13:26:12 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 10:56:49 2010. You're welcome. But Kew Gardens Teleport is not some young punk. While I'm not sure why he's mistaken about you in this matter, I can assure you that he's a great guy (we met up in London), and more importantly, probably one of the five smartest people here, easily, IMO. Maybe even top three. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 8 13:26:46 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 10:54:14 2010. No. Some others here. Not you. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:33:58 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 8 13:11:49 2010. No, that is a fact. Since you rarely ride the system by your own admission, you don't realise that the ridership does not like to divert from their established way of getting to/from work.Overcrowded or not, they like the L since once they get off along 14th St. to make their transfers, they are close to where they are going, be it a few stops north or south, east side or west side. They are not interested in traveling downtown then back uptown even if it's on the same train. Plus the L has more frequent service than the M. This thru service all you guys are so in love with gives the riders ZERO connections to the east side, where most are traveling to. The L's ridership is heaviest north of Myrtle Wycoff, those already riding aren't giving up their seats to change for the M/V upstairs. Other L riders will not backtrack to wait on a cold/snowy/rainy/windy elevated platform. It just kills you guys that this stretch of trackage isn't used for regular service. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 13:38:35 2010, in response to Re: UPDATE & WHAT I THINK ... Re: ZMan, that is great news, replacing the M train with the V train., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:33:58 2010. Maybe some of them Bill Not all of them....Feel Better... |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:45:18 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 8 13:20:46 2010. Don't blame the current MTA suits because the current regime has to deal with the mistakes made by past regimes for this nonsense. They even "murdered" flexibility with the R68/68A by unitizing them.It happens every day with the G. 4 cars aren't enough and 8 cars are too much. Plus vandalism/crime would become an issue when the cars are virtually empty in the opposite direction and when the crowd gets off. Finally more time needed to relay with the longer train increases costs too. Spend less time on the computer and ride a G out of Church on the AM rush that has 2 F's ahead of it and 9 minutes behind its' leader to see for yourself. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jan 8 13:51:36 2010, in response to Re: Replacing the M with V train, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jan 8 13:45:18 2010. Don't blame the current MTA suits because the current regime has to deal with the mistakes made by past regimes for this nonsense.Exactly... With more input and better thinking all of these "toys" the past regime put forth could have worked out for the better.. ATS.. RCC... R142's,R143's.... I wont even get into CBTC ATO.... |
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