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DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005

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MTA New York City Transit
Service Alert

Posted on:4/6/05 12:32:50 PM

Due to signal problems on the Broadway line, there is no & service between 137th Street and 145th Street at this time.


It's posted at 12:32 PM when the 9 is not running at this time. DUH!

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Metropod on Wed Apr 6 13:21:07 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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oh brother

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Allan on Wed Apr 6 13:22:22 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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And suppose they can't get things fixed by rush hour? At that point the notification would be correct.

David - don't nitpick.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by jrr4 on Wed Apr 6 13:39:21 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Allan on Wed Apr 6 13:22:22 2005.

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On what date does the 9 make its last run?

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 13:41:32 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by jrr4 on Wed Apr 6 13:39:21 2005.

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Friday, May 27th.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Apr 6 14:08:10 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Allan on Wed Apr 6 13:22:22 2005.

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Agreed. NYCT is making a reference to the Broadway-7th Av line and any service that might be running on it.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 6 14:34:01 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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If they simply say no 1 service, people will wait for the 9.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 15:12:05 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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Not a big deal really.

Technically, yes they are wrong.

But almost everyone I know refers (including myself) reffers to the whole West Side line as the 1 and 9.

Even on a weekend, I'll say 'I'm takin the 1 'n 9 up to Times Sq', etc...

The 1 and the 9 are so commonly paired, it's just that way.

The Broadway Line has a similar effect. My father who used to work at the WTC and commuted via Ferry and BMT or IRT to WTC (or walked =P) always reffered, and still to this day reffers to both lines as either the 1 'n 9, or the N 'n R. Just subway slang I guess.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Rapid Transit Series on Wed Apr 6 15:22:19 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 15:12:05 2005.

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I wonder how you'll cope with the 9's elimination in May, Chris?

As for lines, I'd rather use "IRT", "BMT", or "IND". Quick, and to the point. Best thing is that casual riders don't know what the hell you're talking about. :)

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 15:26:22 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Rapid Transit Series on Wed Apr 6 15:22:19 2005.

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I won't mind.

I've ridden a 9 a few times, but I usually stick to the BMT (especially the W, which owns).

The most times I use the ferry is when I go to MoD trips, and most MoD trips have been at Grand Central recenly. For getting to the East Side from SF, I take the R to Union Sq and take the IRT right up. Or, I just take the express bus. =)

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Rapid Transit Series on Wed Apr 6 15:29:33 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 15:26:22 2005.

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The X1, I assume? Where do you get it in SI?

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by David of Broadway on Wed Apr 6 15:34:19 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 15:12:05 2005.

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You're young. I refer to the line as the 1, even during rush hours.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by M15 to South Ferry on Wed Apr 6 15:38:15 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by David of Broadway on Wed Apr 6 15:34:19 2005.

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Most of the time I'm on 7th Av it's mainly the 1 and I never rode the 1/9 skip stop so for me it wouldn't matter much anyway.
I'll be glad when it's just the 1.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 15:40:46 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Rapid Transit Series on Wed Apr 6 15:29:33 2005.

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Yes.

Usually at the Eltingville Transit Center, which is the first stop, though I have to catch a ride here.

I could just walk the 10-15 minute walk to Eltingville and catch it there, but I need to buy a Metrocard at the ETC anyway.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by JPC on Wed Apr 6 16:36:10 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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Actually, it's a good idea to mention both. I could see the typical reaction if only the 1 were mentioned:

"Hmmm, the 1 isn't running between 137 and 145. I guess I'll take the 9 instead."



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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by JPC on Wed Apr 6 16:42:44 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Rapid Transit Series on Wed Apr 6 15:22:19 2005.

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As for lines, I'd rather use "IRT", "BMT", or "IND". Quick, and to the point. Best thing is that casual riders don't know what the hell you're talking about. :)


But even I don't know what the hell you're talking about if you "take the IRT to 125th Street" - that involves three different possibilities - are you taking the 1'n'9, the 2/3, or the Lex? And once you get into the Bronx, it's the 1'n'9, the 2/<5>, the 5 (Dyre), the 4 (Woodlawn) and the 6 (Pelham).

Now, if you tell someone you're taking the Sea Beach, the Culver or the Brighton Local down to Kings Highway, we all know what you're talking about, but the sheeple are perplexed :)

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Rapid Transit Series on Wed Apr 6 16:46:28 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by JPC on Wed Apr 6 16:42:44 2005.

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Well, duh. I'm aware not to use those terms on every occasion. In those cases, I'll just use the name of the line.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by South Ferry on Wed Apr 6 17:05:05 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 13:41:32 2005.

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f.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by South Ferry on Wed Apr 6 17:09:00 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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Da hell??

They can't key-by that location??

It's a straightaway section of track and 1 station is in-view from the previous... and DAMN RARE do trains come out of the sidings there...

I can't imagine why they'd need to KO service in that single small teeny weeny
stretch.... you can see where you're going from 1 end to the other...

restrict speeds and honk if you see workmen?

o bless-- tell me they put up SHUTTLE BUSES to cover that 1-stop stretch.


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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Apr 6 17:14:32 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by South Ferry on Wed Apr 6 17:09:00 2005.

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If you ride that stretch bet 137th Street and 145th Street(137 yard area) there are so many homesignals in both directions that call-ons have to be taken and given from 240 Tower and then the trains have to key by countless approach signals, its not as easy as you think.Those signals are real close to together at that so you need supervision down there to check the switches and use radios to help move those trains.So instead of that lock it all down and get the signal department down there to fix the problem.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by South Ferry on Wed Apr 6 17:17:07 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Railman718 on Wed Apr 6 17:14:32 2005.

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ah, see... I wasnt aware of the MASSIVE number of home/signals present there.

thx 4 clarity

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Apr 6 17:22:56 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by South Ferry on Wed Apr 6 17:17:07 2005.

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No problem thats one stretch in the A Div that when i go through it i just say... no power failure please, no power failure. LOL all my snow blocks will be gone if those signals go haywire.

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BFD -_-;

Posted by Sa-Ceu! on Wed Apr 6 18:19:01 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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... like anybody actually reads the site

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Apr 6 18:19:15 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 15:12:05 2005.

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The 1 and the 9 are so commonly paired, it's just that way.

Yes. They match US1/US9.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by American Pig on Wed Apr 6 18:43:18 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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Their statement is 100% accurate. The 1 and 9 were not running at the time.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 19:11:44 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Apr 6 18:19:15 2005.

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Yup, I always noticed that too.

IRT 1&9

US Highways 1&9

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by JPC on Wed Apr 6 19:28:07 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 19:11:44 2005.

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But the full-time SI Express buses are the X1 and the X10...

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 19:31:22 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by JPC on Wed Apr 6 19:28:07 2005.

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Yep.

Though the X9 (as well as the X2-X8) are all variations of the X1.

The similarity, besides the X1-X9 sharing one schedule pamplet, is that they all serve Hylan Blvd at one point.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by SPUI on Wed Apr 6 20:31:41 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Motor Coach Industries on Wed Apr 6 19:11:44 2005.

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The 1-9 even goes along US 9 on upper Broadway. US 1 stays with I-95 into the Bronx though.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by South Ferry on Thu Apr 7 01:22:12 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Railman718 on Wed Apr 6 17:22:56 2005.

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I dunno jeet about signals and tracks and switches but I would imagine
that the tracks REMAIN in the same position as when the last nb/sb
train passed over them.... therefore, I'd suggested the visible key-by.

But if the diverting SWITCHES from the yard sidings would "Reset" or move themselves
back to a non-straight position, THEN I can comprehend the need to
cut off service in that sect.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Apr 7 02:03:42 2005, in response to DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Apr 6 12:48:33 2005.

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Some customers believe the 9 runs all day long.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by JPC on Thu Apr 7 03:02:13 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Apr 7 02:03:42 2005.

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Well, that belief is supported by the many signed 9 trains seen during off-hours, so it's not entirely unreasonable. I myself thought the 9 ran most of the day, because I would always see them running in the mid-day and evening. Weekends were rare (and when I did see them it was usually on a consist with mix'n'match signage).

But I'd bet that the people who think the 9 does run all day long have no idea what the difference between the 1 and the 9 is - oh something about that skip dealie - they skip something or other. Yeah, one of them skips something, and the other one doesn't. Wait, that doesn't make sense...

All of which testifies to how useful the skip stop actually isn't...

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by David of Broadway on Thu Apr 7 06:49:19 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by JPC on Thu Apr 7 03:02:13 2005.

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Skip-stop was in effect middays until 1994.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Apr 7 18:33:01 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by South Ferry on Thu Apr 7 01:22:12 2005.

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Hey its the rules i dont make em i follow em...

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by R42 4787 on Thu Apr 7 19:43:58 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by JPC on Thu Apr 7 03:02:13 2005.

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There have been signed 9s even on weekends at times.

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by R32 B Train on Thu Apr 7 23:34:38 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by South Ferry on Wed Apr 6 17:09:00 2005.

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How is it possible to ternimate a SB train at 145 Street?

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Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine

Posted by Motor Coach Industries on Thu Apr 7 23:39:31 2005, in response to Re: DUH! Even NYCT can't tell the one from the nine, posted by SPUI on Wed Apr 6 20:31:41 2005.

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Yep, as Boston Road.

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