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Posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 13:27:26 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 11 12:16:22 2008. And a lot of it happens over much shorter time periods. The Prince of Wales is descended from Queen Victoria through both his father and his mother.I have a cousin who has only 12 great-great-grandparents instead of the usual 16 because his parents were double second cousins. |
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Posted by Charles G on Fri Jan 11 13:59:14 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 10 23:36:21 2008. From my occasional observation, Woodside is similar. More boarding passengers during the AM peak are headed eastbound rather than westbound. |
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Posted by Charles G on Fri Jan 11 14:00:30 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 10:18:31 2008. Now that you mention it, I believe the LIRR either has or had a similar policy. |
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Posted by Charles G on Fri Jan 11 14:05:39 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:43:28 2008. OK. How about arriving at 8:53 to catch the 9:03? Is that enough? |
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Posted by Charles G on Fri Jan 11 14:19:52 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:34:04 2008. The Hoboken to Port Jervis fare is an MNRR fare.NJT fares are generally more expensive that MNRR fares. If you take a look at the Pascack Valley line fares, you'll see that NJT actually has to hold down their fares at some stations in Northern New Jersey so that they aren't higher than the MNRR fares at the stations in Rockland. Riders in Zone 10 on the Pascack Valley line or Main/Bergen line pay less for their tickets that their Zone 10 brethren on the Montclair/Boonton line because the MNRR fares are so low. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jan 11 14:21:53 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:38:48 2008. I don't think they have enough equipment to add more Ronkonkoma/Riverhead runs. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 11 14:38:18 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 13:27:26 2008. I have a cousin who has only 12 great-great-grandparents instead of the usual 16 because his parents were double second cousins.Does he have three eyes and six fingers on each hand? My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Charles G on Fri Jan 11 14:43:38 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Jan 11 12:00:18 2008. That's true -- but on the other hand, I think the closest Hempstead branch station to West Hempstead may actually be Garden City which is about the same amount of time to Jamaica. |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 14:59:26 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 11 06:56:41 2008. LIRR + MNCR + NJT at the WTC site would be an amazing transportation hub! The same thing can happen at Grand Central Station if THE is built into a loop that has been proposed. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 15:05:02 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 14:59:26 2008. Now extend PATCO and SJLR there... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 15:05:48 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 15:05:02 2008. And then St. Louis Metrolink... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 15:09:17 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 10 19:36:02 2008. LIRR could increase the dwell time at the station. That is, arrival time is the same; departure time is delayed 30 seconds or 45 seconds.But what will that do to the next station stop? Most stations should have TVMs, in my opinion. Or better yet, set up a website like the airlines do, and print out your LIRR boarding pass right at your computer. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 11 17:31:16 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 11 09:09:42 2008. Not true.Strip malls are designed as such.."strip malls".. They are NOT enclosed... Latham Circle Mall was a STRIP MALL..years ago..and it was REBUILT into a ENCLOSED MALL... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 17:35:53 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 11 17:31:16 2008. I know of a few small malls that were rebuilt into normal outdoor shopping centers. Making the outside walls the storfronts, and a supermarket took over what was once the hall of the indoor mall (of course all the stores exiting outside now. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 11 17:38:57 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 11 17:31:16 2008. Stop being so combative! Dontcha know that all-caps is SHOUTING?    Man, if we get bent outta shape over what's a strip mall and what ain't, I wonder how we'll react to another Great Depreshun . . .
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 17:46:17 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 11 14:38:18 2008. Does he have three eyes and six fingers on each hand?Double second cousins only share 1/16th of their DNA. Still a somewhat risky marriage but not exactly an Appalachia sterotype. Rudy Giuliani married his ordinary second cousin, which meant they shared 1/32nd of their DNA. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jan 11 17:51:35 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 11 17:38:57 2008. What wrong with you?You feelin okay? Do we need to send EMS to your home or something? |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Jan 11 18:10:30 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Fri Jan 11 14:43:38 2008. Hempstead is closer, even if by a hair. |
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Posted by MJF on Fri Jan 11 19:53:25 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:29:54 2008. And there are new town homes going up RIGHT NEXT TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.I wonder who would buy those? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jan 11 20:21:25 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 11 09:09:42 2008. I remember going to Roosevelt Field in the 60's and it was outside and didn't have a roof. But then again, I'm not sure if they used the term "mall" to describe it back then. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Fri Jan 11 20:24:48 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by MJF on Fri Jan 11 19:53:25 2008. I don't know but the area around Owl's Head plant in Bay Ridge is well populated even though it hums(stinks) pretty hard on a bad day. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jan 11 20:31:11 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 11 07:06:37 2008. ["They're finally going to work on it? About time, that rusty el rumbles so loudly even when you're on the train and when you're on a M7 over that el you'll feel like you're about to fall off for a couple of seconds/minutes."]He wasn't talking about the el. The Atlantic Avenue viaduct is the roadway over the East New York Station. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 11 21:04:35 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 10:33:35 2008. Which is why it makes more sense to build mixed developments and screen tenants while you're doing it.No, the best deal is to let the market decide where housing for the poor should go. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 21:15:13 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 11 21:04:35 2008. Sorry, no, that is a lousy way to do it. That is the way it gets done in Mexico City and in the banana republics. The reason is that while you assume the market is actualy a free and fair market; in fact it is not.New York has had a lot of success with a regulated housing market, and I see no reason to change that. Within that regulated model, New York has slowly moved away from the public housing tower model (though of course they still exist) and toward a mixed model. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 11 21:15:25 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 11 09:09:42 2008. What about the National Mall? That's outdoors! |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jan 11 21:22:47 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 11 09:09:42 2008. Bad enough the genuine malls in Queens, Brooklyn, Jersey City and White Plains force you to pay to park for the purpose of spending money there; so does Atlas, which is served by two bus lines and no subway or railroad!)If I drive to Kings Plaza, I always find parking along both sides (except the medical center) of Avenue Y from Flatbush Ave to Kimball St. Free parking, only worry about ASP, and just a block or two away from the mall. Queens Center is impossible to find unmetered on-street parking. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jan 11 21:23:27 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 11 09:09:42 2008. Bad enough the genuine malls in Queens, Brooklyn, Jersey City and White Plains force you to pay to park for the purpose of spending money there; so does Atlas, which is served by two bus lines and no subway or railroad!)If I drive to Kings Plaza, I always find parking along both sides (except the medical center) of Avenue V* from Flatbush Ave to Kimball St. Free parking, only worry about ASP, and just a block or two away from the mall. Queens Center is impossible to find unmetered on-street parking. * - Correction |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:25:34 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 21:15:13 2008. New York has had disastrous results with a regulated housing market. First of all, outside of Manhattan, rent stabilized apartments are usually near market rates. In Manhattan, there is a huge disparity between regulated and market rate apartments. But it protects the poor, right? Wrong. Those apartments are rarely occupied by economically disadvantaged people. We're protecting people who don't need protection.But it gets better. The barrier of entry for real estate development, and ownership, is do high in this city that national firms are reluctant to enter the market place. We're left with real estate families who develop the institutional knowledge to navigate the byzantine government bureaucracy, and learn to deal with grossly inflated operational costs, to develop in a highly kinked market. What does that mean? Much slower construction of housing, and that translates in to higher rents. What do people do in this inflated housing market when they want to buy a home in the city limits? They buy a brownstone in Bed-Stuy and crowd out the working class. There is no successful mixed model for housing in the industrialized world that involves more than basis points worth of housing stock. Not one. |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:28:26 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:25:34 2008. There is no successful mixed model for housing in the industrialized world that involves more than basis points worth of housing stock. Not one.Make that regulated mixed housing. |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:31:13 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:28:26 2008. Just to clarify, by regulated, I'm referring to price regulation. There is some building code that is needed for the public good, such as fire code and for storm water run off. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 21:32:41 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:25:34 2008. "Much slower construction of housing, and that translates in to higher rents."Actually, New York replaces its housing stock a lot faster than many other places do. Try visiting Philadelphia or Kansas City. Yes, rents in New York are high - because the populsatuon is increasing and thee is huge demand. That's why New York is rezoning some areas to increase density. "They buy a brownstone in Bed-Stuy and crowd out the working class." Which is why a requirement that a % of housing be dependent on documented income is important. It lets developers do what they want but still serves working class families. Not perfect, and certainly bears improvement, but it works. "There is no successful mixed model for housing in the industrialized world that involves more than basis points worth of housing stock" False statement. New York City is a successful example. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 21:33:43 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:28:26 2008. You're still wrong. New York has been very successful. |
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Posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:50:33 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 21:32:41 2008. Actually, New York replaces its housing stock a lot faster than many other places do. Try visiting Philadelphia or Kansas City.I don't know what the numbers are for those cities, but New York has less housing stock today than it did 50 years ago, and in the early part of this decade, the housing stock was actually shrinking. Yes, rents in New York are high - because the populsatuon is increasing and thee is huge demand. That's why New York is rezoning some areas to increase density. Rents were high in this city when the population was shrinking, so your cause and effect is invalid. It was not until the introduction of rent control after WWII that rents ceased to drop proportionally with economic downturns. Which is why a requirement that a % of housing be dependent on documented income is important. It lets developers do what they want but still serves working class families. Not perfect, and certainly bears improvement, but it works. It doesn't work at all. My mom teaches a class about this, so I've learned a thing or two about setting aside housing for "poor people." The most common program is the 80/20 program. real estate developers get to build new developments with more housing units than what zoning allows. These extra units are dedicated to economically disadvantaged people for a certain number of years, and then the developers own a development with greater density than what they have been allowed to own. Considering that New York real estate is dominated by families who are in it for the long haul, it is a great deal for them. What about the benefit for poor people? 20% of the apartment units are reserved for low-income tenants earning no more than 50% of area median income. If that apartment is in an area where the median income in $150,000, than "poor people" who make up to $75,000 qualify. And the price of these units? They're subsidized all right. It is great when you don't have to pay $2,500/ month for a studio, and you can get it for half that (give or take a few hundred.) Working class families are not benefitting from where most 80/20 developments are built. Sure there are some that do. That goes back to my original contention that real benefit to those in need will never exceed an amount measured in basis points. What happens 30 years after an 80/20 is built? Higher density buildings dot the landscape that are larger than what was considered optimal for a high quality of life, so the quality of life will probably be negatively impacted in that neighborhood by buildings that no longer provide any benefit to people from a lower economic strata. Mixed housing is not sustainable, and it like all other government involvement in housing, the working class rarely sees any benefit. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:15:05 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:50:33 2008. Actually, New York replaces its housing stock a lot faster than many other places do. Try visiting Philadelphia or Kansas City.I don't know what the numbers are for those cities, but New York has less housing stock today than it did 50 years ago, and in the early part of this decade, the housing stock was actually shrinking. Please show proof of this, this is contrary to what seems to be going on. Yes, rents in New York are high - because the populsatuon is increasing and thee is huge demand. That's why New York is rezoning some areas to increase density. Rents were high in this city when the population was shrinking, so your cause and effect is invalid. It was not until the introduction of rent control after WWII that rents ceased to drop proportionally with economic downturns Please show proof of this too. Current proof. I have seen studies that show that rent control, or more currently, rent stabilization actually do the opposite effect. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:15:20 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:50:33 2008. Actually, New York replaces its housing stock a lot faster than many other places do. Try visiting Philadelphia or Kansas City.I don't know what the numbers are for those cities, but New York has less housing stock today than it did 50 years ago, and in the early part of this decade, the housing stock was actually shrinking. Please show proof of this, this is contrary to what seems to be going on. Yes, rents in New York are high - because the populsatuon is increasing and thee is huge demand. That's why New York is rezoning some areas to increase density. Rents were high in this city when the population was shrinking, so your cause and effect is invalid. It was not until the introduction of rent control after WWII that rents ceased to drop proportionally with economic downturns Please show proof of this too. Current proof. I have seen studies that show that rent control, or more currently, rent stabilization actually do the opposite effect. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:20:05 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 17:46:17 2008. Double second cousins only share 1/16th of their DNA. Still a somewhat risky marriage but not exactly an Appalachia sterotype.Rudy Giuliani married his ordinary second cousin, which meant they shared 1/32nd of their DNA. I think you mean 1/8. Isn't 1/32 LESS than 1/16? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 22:21:47 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Russ on Fri Jan 11 21:50:33 2008. Your post is riddled with myths!"What happens 30 years after an 80/20 is built? Higher density buildings dot the landscape that are larger than what was considered optimal for a high quality of life" Considered by whom? Landowners protesting the introduction of needed housing stock? This is sheer nonsense. "so the quality of life will probably be negatively impacted in that neighborhood by buildings that no longer provide any benefit to people from a lower economic strata." New York has demonstrated that the opposite is true. In fact, the buildings benefit people across a range of economic strata, and neighborhoods have been revived this way. If the range of income is set so too many upper middle class people benefit, the answer is to adjust thresholds. Yes, some areas of the city will not support the working class as well as others. That's true everywhere. That can be tweaked. It is true that in the South Bronx, tenement towers that were magnets for crime were replaced by neighborhoods of single family homes bought by people with $25,000 annual incomes. The amount of housing stock was reduced in those localities,ad the quality of life improved. That means there is more than one way to improve housing affordability, and New York City is big enough so that more than one model is employed in the boroughs. "Rents were high in this city when the population was shrinking, so your cause and effect is invalid" Not nearly as high as they are now, so my model actually is quite valid. You're relying on subjective value judgments. New York's success speaks for itself. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:22:35 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:29:54 2008. There seems to be LOTS of new construction near both Seaside and Playland. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:25:06 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Jan 11 09:09:42 2008. Bad enough the genuine malls in Queens, Brooklyn, Jersey City and White Plains force you to pay to park for the purpose of spending money there; so does Atlas, which is served by two bus lines and no subway or railroad!)The LIRR Montauk Branch goes right by the Atlas Shopping Mall!! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 22:26:13 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:25:06 2008. Can you get off at the mall? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:28:44 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 21:15:13 2008. New York has had a lot of success with a regulated housing market, and I see no reason to change that.That is very debatable. There are many studies that show that the rent control/stabilization is the cause of much of NY's housing woes. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:30:46 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 21:33:43 2008. You're still wrong. New York has been very successful.No, Russ is correct, it has NOT been very successful. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:32:26 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 21:32:41 2008. False statement. New York City is a successful example.That is extremely debatable. There are many studies on both sides of this. Your side is one OPINION, not fact. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 11 22:32:52 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:30:46 2008. IAWRuss&U |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 11 22:35:40 2008, in response to i have a simple solution, posted by xtimx on Wed Jan 9 16:54:38 2008. since everyone that wants the 9:03 can't get there a second before 9:03 because they slept late or couldn't find their shoes or doesn't know what a clock is, etc and there are presumably no other trains that day lets hold the train in the station all day until everyone who needs that train can get on. that way noone has to accept any personal responsibilityMan, everyone dumps on Noone. Why can't they all take personal responsibility in earnest, instead of using him as their scapegoat?  |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jan 11 22:36:18 2008, in response to Re: i have a simple solution, posted by Forest Glen on Wed Jan 9 23:53:55 2008. Ur very wacky. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:37:30 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Eat Pumpkin Pie Together, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 22:26:13 2008. Nooooo, can you get off anywhere along the Queens Montauk Branch? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 11 22:38:20 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:20:05 2008. Double cousins share more DNA, so he's right. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:40:10 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:15:20 2008. Actually, my responses are meant for the bold prints, not Russ's, sorry for the confusion. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 22:41:54 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 11 22:28:44 2008. There is a lot of debate about rent control per se, that's true. |
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