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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jan 9 22:39:01 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by BMTLines on Wed Jan 9 14:30:29 2008. No. LIRR has LOTS of customers. 700 of them are on the train waiting for it to get to the city. 2 or 3 are stuck on the wrong side of the gates when the train arrives.WHOM ought the LIRR serve? ROAR |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 22:48:29 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Easy on Wed Jan 9 20:17:48 2008. That's obviously exagerated, but anyone that knows what the parking lot at Ronkonkoma looks like on an average day knows exactly what I mean. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 22:51:47 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jan 9 20:30:39 2008. Obviously, and all I am saying is that anything from Flatbush (including intermediate stations) isn't meant to travel between those stations and "Cedarhurst". It's designed to get you to Jamaica where you will transfer to one of the many braches there. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 9 23:00:47 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 15:47:55 2008. Would the ADA require that an elevator (actually, two elevators) be built if an overpass is built? That could really add to the cost.My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 9 23:07:16 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 20:10:40 2008. And you shouldn't be cutting it closer than that anyway at a station like Ronkonkoma where you have to park at least a mile away from the platforms anyway.Another problem with Ronkonkoma is that there's no crossover at the east end of the platforms. There's one at the extreme west end, and one near the middle (but closer to the west end). My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jan 9 23:32:35 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 9 23:00:47 2008. I'm a little surprised to find out that LIRR doesn't have pedestrian bridges at nearly every station. Most, but not all of the side platform stations in the LA area have them. Many added elevators and bridges in the last few years. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Wed Jan 9 23:53:55 2008, in response to i have a simple solution, posted by xtimx on Wed Jan 9 16:54:38 2008. Unofficially the conductor holds the train if he sees that a regular is late and running for the train. I get a cheap thrill seeing fat women run up the stairs at Locust Manor. Sometimes they approach the intersection of Farmers/Westgate and hear the noise of the M7. Even if they don't have the light they make a mad dash. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jan 10 00:23:52 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 9 11:45:46 2008. You do realize that in many cases, the lateness problem is caused by a situation outside of their control (i.e., a late connection by LI Bus). |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jan 10 00:26:45 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 18:08:56 2008. And who knows...the person asking them may be "testing", and if they let them cross...VIOLATION and possible suspension. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 10 06:56:06 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 22:51:47 2008. So, if it isn't meant to serve anything from there to "Cedarhurst", why does it serve "Cedarhurst"? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 10 06:57:17 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by trainsarefun on Wed Jan 9 20:36:38 2008. As long as we get hourly service to a branch that actually serves destinations people from there want to go to *cough*Ronkonkoma, Babylon, Long Beach*cough*, why not? |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Thu Jan 10 09:02:52 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 16:12:37 2008. Interestingly, Lord Avenue USED to cross the tracks at the north/east/inbound/whatever end of the Inwood station. But NY878/Nassau 'Expressway' was constructed on an overpass over the tracks several feet due west of Lord Avenue. This caused the elimination of the crossing and the severing of Lord Avenue south of the ROW, leaving Doughty Boulevard at the other end of the platform the only way for pedestrians to cross the tracks.Unfortunately, the 'expressway' has no sidewalks, and there are no stairways connecting the platforms and overpass. Some LIRR stations with two tracks and a street crossing on one end have a connecting underpass or overpass further down the platform. But Hewlett, Woodmere, Lawrence, Centre Avenue, Island Park and Bethpage, to name a few, don't. There are others that have a street crossing on both ends but no connecting underpass or overpass. In addition to Cedarhust, this includes New Hyde Park, East Rockaway and Oceanside. |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 10 09:18:04 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Thu Jan 10 09:02:52 2008. Thanks Howard. I didn't know that about Lord Avenue. |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 10 09:19:21 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 9 23:00:47 2008. I suspect that is the case.They put in elevators at the Greenwich station when they replaced the prior stairs only overpass a couple years ago. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 10 09:22:05 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Easy on Wed Jan 9 23:32:35 2008. Most, but not all of the side platform stations in the LA area have them. Many added elevators and bridges in the last few years.Most LA stations are in a lot nicer shape than LIRR stations too. Even forgetting an overpass or underpass, there are much nicer amenities, right down to beautiful landscaping. |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 10 09:22:13 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Easy on Wed Jan 9 23:32:35 2008. It is surprising when you look at other railroads to find that the LIRR doesn't have the overpasses at some pretty heavily used stations.Metro North seems to have them just about everywhere -- but then again, they have far fewer stations with street crossings. I just can't figure out the LIRR's logic for which stations get overpasses and which don't. |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 10 09:27:05 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jan 9 22:39:01 2008. No. On the train in question, there are probably about 30 people actually on the train (of the three prior stations -- two of them are the lowest ridership stations in all of electrified territory, Inwood and Far Rockaway). 50 people on the platform and a handful of people stuck on the wrong side of the gates.All of them are going to wait 5 full minutes at Jamaica anyway for the connecting train. If the train crew notices people stranded on the other side of the gates by the east (west/south) bound train, why not wait a minute at Cedarhurst until the other train clears and the people can cross legally/safely. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 10 09:33:38 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 10 06:56:06 2008. The busier lines are the ones that are routed to Penn Station (for the most part), and the lesser busy lines go to Flatbush. They can't "all" go to Penn Station, there just isn't enough capacity. Someone has to go to Brooklyn. And some people have to change at Jamaica, which is usually a simple cross the platform transfer. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 10 09:35:49 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jan 10 00:26:45 2008. Correct, it's not worth their jobs. |
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Re: How the LIRR and ATMS Conspire Against Commuters |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Thu Jan 10 09:46:25 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 18:27:59 2008. Weekends, holidays and off-hours are especially treacherous at stations that only have ATMs at that time.You hit on a very good point, namely that many people become basket cases at the very sight of an ATM, let alone when they try to follow its instructions: "What IS this? What am I supposed to DO? What does THIS mean? DON'T LEAVE ME!!" Most of the people who ride during such off-hours are occasional riders who may not be familiar with an ATM menu. (Not to get too off-topic, but similar reactions abound in many supermarkets that try to shove self check-out kiosks down their customers' throats. One of many reasons I avoid them is because of someone in front of me who has no idea what to do. Of course, there are store personnel stationed by the kiosks to assist the befuddled- which only makes me wonder why the store just can't put them on registers in the first place!!) Many quieter stations only have one ATM that more often than not is out of order. In fact, this seems to more of a frequent occurrence since the imposition of the railroad's no-tolerance policy of conductors leveling the dreaded $5.00 penalty on those who didn't buy tickets in advance- cynically speaking, of course!! |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 10 09:55:16 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and ATMS Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Thu Jan 10 09:46:25 2008. Of course, there are store personnel stationed by the kiosks to assist the befuddled- which only makes me wonder why the store just can't put them on registers in the first place!!Two main reasons -- 1. A single person can oversee 3 or 4 self-checkouts. 2. The person doesn't have to handle any money. Minimizes all sorts of risks. |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Thu Jan 10 09:55:27 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 10 09:18:04 2008. You're welcome. Circa 1977-80, I went through a phase whereby I would bikeride along ground level LIRR ROWs and crisscross them at grade crossings. It's very easy along the Far Rock annd upper Long Beach lines; less so along the Main, Hempstead, West Hempstead and Oyster Bay lines. In September 1978, Lord Avenue crossed the ROW and ran uninterrupted north to Wanser Avenue. Now it's cut off between Bayview Avenue and the south side of the ROW.A look at Google Aerial Maps or the even better MSN Birds' Eye gives a pretty good perspective of Lord Avenue's 'ghost' section. |
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Posted by Fytton on Thu Jan 10 09:56:39 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 9 14:41:27 2008. 'Build full-width crossing gates.'That's a UK level crossing you are showing there...but a long time ago (a first-generation DMU painted in its original green livery, circa 1965-70, I'd guess). We don't have those kind of gates any more - they were manually operated and needed an employee there to open and shut 'em before and after every train. Can't afford those sort of staff costs any more. |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Thu Jan 10 10:01:19 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 9 12:55:03 2008. The Far Rockaway branch runs in a due southeasterly direction from Jamaica to Valley Stream, then peels off due south to Hewlett. It then runs southwest in a virtually straight line the rest of the way to Far Rock. The format is kind of an off-kilter 'U' or 'V'. So those commuting from between Woodmere and Far Rock are actually traveling east to go to west to NYC.This is why the $3.00 City Ticket doesn't work for Far Rockaway despite it being physically located in NYC. But many Far Rock residents- including one I work with- don't seem to understand the concept that a rail line can begin and end end in NYC whilst running outside of NYC in between. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 10 10:03:17 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 10 06:57:17 2008. On another front, after ESA is up and running - 2014? 2015? - Far Rockaway should see one or two ESA trains added. West Hempstead won't see any.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 10 10:12:52 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Thu Jan 10 10:01:19 2008. The Far Rockaway Branch is an anormality because the further you get operationally from Jamaica, the closer to the city you get. Of course that all stems from the fact that it was once a loop of sorts. It used to be faster to go towards Far Rockaway for many of the stations than going towards Valley Stream. Of course that all ended once the line was severed at Mott Ave.I wonder how they handled the operational direction when the line was through from Broad Channel to let's say Cedarhurst. Were you going east if you were going from Broad Channel to Cedarhurst or if you were going from Valley Stream to Cedarhurst? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:39:58 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 13:24:47 2008. Shit happens. Do you want the train to sit there for 2 minutes so all the late people can board it? If you know the route will be blocked at 9:01 for the 9:03, arrive no later than 8:59. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:41:51 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:45:16 2008. The LIRR isn't a traditional business. It's a government funded service which has no competition and has no ability to turn a profit. It operates only to meet a need which cannot be met by a private enterprise. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 10 10:42:09 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:39:58 2008. Been down this road with this thread Chris looks to me its everybodys fault but thier own..Typical... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:43:56 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Thu Jan 10 09:27:05 2008. Inwood gets lots of traffic during peak AM hours. Heck, even Far Rockaway does, since it's faster than the A train to Penn Station and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg for a monthly pass. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 10 10:44:27 2008, in response to How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 11:24:50 2008. It's all Bush's fault. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:47:34 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 15:32:16 2008. The conclusion: Leaving home earlier to catch a train could prevent missing the train, but there there are many unknown factors that can prevent an individual (or a group of individuals) from catching the train. Life sucks. You suffer the consequences and do more to prevent yourself from repeating it. If your alarm clock doesn't work, get a better one. Have kids and they don't co-operate? Get 'em ready earlier so that's factored in. Like to stop for coffee before getting on the train? Wait till you get to work. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:49:20 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 15:47:55 2008. Doing something may not be possible. Slots through Valley, Hall and Jay/Dunton may make a significant schedule change on this line all but impossible. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 10 10:49:38 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:39:58 2008. That works for the people who know about the problem, but for those who don't, not so much. Given the very long dwell time this particular train is already scheduled for at Jamaica, they might consider just originating it a few minutes later than it presently does. But then one has to take into account whether this same problem would occur elsewhere along the line.Some routes seem to operate on informal understandings. Westbound off-peak trains on the Port Washington Branch usually run 3-4 minutes behind schedule at most stops through and including Flushing. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:50:36 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 9 23:00:47 2008. This may actually be a question that RonInBayside is best equipped to answer. Whoulda thunkit? |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 10 10:51:25 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:43:56 2008. Yes, but how will people not get confused about which Inwood - in Nassau or New York - they want, hmmmmmmm? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jan 10 10:51:39 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jan 10 09:33:38 2008. To all the people who complain about changing at Jamaica when I started riding the LIRR the whole Main Line past Mineola (except a few trains going to East Williston) was all diesel and had to change at Jamaica. I lived in East Meadow and either used Hempstead which was electric or Westbury which was low platforms and no third rail. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:55:40 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 14:49:33 2008. Reminds me of an incident on the Port Jervis line last October. They were bustituting to Otisville and a large family arrived at the very moment the bus was scheduled to leave. The father did not have time to buy tickets at Otisville's machine for the other 6 members of his family using his credit card, yet he didn't carry enough cash to pay for them on board. He pleaded his case, but both the conductor and a cop said the same thing over and over: it's YOUR responsibility to arrive early enough to properly pay your fare. No exceptions, no whining, no excuses. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 10 10:56:25 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 10 10:49:38 2008. Yea, give up watching TV while getting dressed or having breakfast. That alone will save the 5 minutes you need to catch your train. Prepare the clothes you need the night before, set the alarm clock 10 minutes earlier, stop having sex in the morning, etc. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Jan 10 10:58:40 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 18:27:59 2008. in the case of Deer Park, they only have one machine, and we had about three older people that took forever to buy their tickets.I think they should let seniors and others who can get reduced fare buy their tickets on board at the reduced fare and without the penalty. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 10 10:59:21 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 10 10:56:25 2008. HA! I find that watching TV adds 15 minutes to my routine. Maybe I'm watching too slowly. 8-) |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jan 10 10:59:30 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Howard Fein on Thu Jan 10 09:55:27 2008. In September 1978, Lord Avenue crossed the ROW and ran uninterrupted north to Wanser Avenue. Now it's cut off between Bayview Avenue and the south side of the ROW.A look at Google Aerial Maps or the even better MSN Birds' Eye gives a pretty good perspective of Lord Avenue's 'ghost' section. View Larger Map My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:59:35 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 10 10:49:38 2008. It should be a general rule that EVERYONE shows up at their commuter rail station 5 minutes prior to the scheduled leaving time for the train they want. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 10 11:00:29 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:41:51 2008. This is a need which can't even be met by the USS Enterprise. 8-) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 10 11:00:48 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:59:35 2008. Damn straight! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 10 11:01:24 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:55:40 2008. He pleaded his case, but both the conductor and a cop said the same thing over and over: it's YOUR responsibility to arrive early enough to properly pay your fare. No exceptions, no whining, no excuses.Something some people are forgetting these days its up to YOU to take care of your business.. Something happens the easiest cop-out is to blame somebody anybody and not your self.. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Jan 10 11:03:14 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:55:40 2008. >>He pleaded his case, but both the conductor and a cop said the same thing over and over: it's YOUR responsibility to arrive early enough to properly pay your fare. No exceptions, no whining, no excuses.<<Yes, but unfortunately NJ Transit caters to these a$$%&*@$ if they send a complaint letter. NJT usually sends them courtesy tickets, which is the wrong thing to do since it makes the passenger(s) look right and the train crew look wrong. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 10 11:03:43 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:59:35 2008. It should be a general rule that EVERYONE shows up at their commuter rail station 5 minutes prior to the scheduled leaving time for the train they want.What?? Are you kidding?? That makes TOO much sense... BTW Agreed 110%... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 11:07:26 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Jan 10 11:03:14 2008. These people were not booted off the train, since they were only going from Port Jervis to Middletown. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 10 11:09:34 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 10 10:59:35 2008. You rely on people to think ahead? |
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