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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 07:19:35 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by IRT Rules on Sun Jul 8 06:06:25 2007. Depends on what the Midnight Dispt wants to do by whats going on in 240 Yard when it comes to Drilling.I know for a fact there is always one at X410 HomeSignal just South of 242nd Street. Sometimes they Lay-Up 1 or 2 trains from Just South of 238 Street to 231st Street.. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 07:34:44 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 05:58:04 2007. Correction thats the 2301 Arrival at Lenox..Theres a 2303 Departure that goes to ZooLots During the Week. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 07:37:46 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 07:19:35 2007. Oh my another Boo-boo, sorry didnt give you all the info.They lay those trains up on "M" Track From just south of 238th Street to 231st Street. |
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Posted by IRT Rules on Sun Jul 8 07:48:33 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 07:37:46 2007. No worries....I understood your first post |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 08:01:05 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by IRT Rules on Sun Jul 8 07:48:33 2007. Thanks.. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 13:48:54 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sat Jul 7 19:03:27 2007. Wasn't sure. But since it wasn't tacked on to that thread, or linked, I figured it would be good to repeat it, especially since I had forgotten to add the point about the lost parking lot space. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 14:15:03 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 05:58:04 2007. I was wondering how they ever resolved the issue of not enough capacity on some of the tracks. So I saw it first hand last week when I posted there early, and my trainer was doing a couple of those adds in the station.I like the little one car length platforms they have on the first few tracks, which I first noticed when I was a kid. I'm supposed to be road posting on a putin job there tomorrow, if the person takes students. Also from what I saw, it is all 1's at 137 now. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 14:16:44 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by MJF on Sat Jul 7 17:49:26 2007. The new ones are like that too. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Jul 8 14:20:27 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 14:16:44 2007. Same thing on the 143, IIRC. You don't have to go to coast and then back to a power position. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 14:22:55 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 14:15:03 2007. They do the Adds in the Station and the Cuts just South of the Station at 145th Street.If you do a Put In look for that Yellow Marker at 145th Street then you are Behind X110 Ball.. They are Double-Ended anyways so the T/O on the North End will give you a Buzz when you are clear. Ah so they give you a job huh? I have to report to a terminal and wait for a trainer.. Since im a A to B Transfer i dont wait long.. The T/O i posted with at Met had me smiling he sees me walk in and frst thing he said was "A to B"? I said "Yeah".. He Said "Ill take you".. Still got Three more Weeks of this Stuff man.. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 14:23:09 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 7 16:37:30 2007. Oh, never heard of that one. (Electrifyng the connection to Linden). I had just thought that up on my own recently. Didn;t know they had already considered it.They could always still use such a conversion, and eliminate the cuts and adds they have to do at Lenox. Move more 3's to Livonia, and the 2's and 5's from Livonia to Linden, and it would be even nicer if they could connect Linden to Flatbush. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 14:31:34 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 7 16:25:25 2007. Interesting idea. I would probably like that. But how would the dead man work? When you let go of it, what would it it do to actvate the emergency brakes?I always wondered about simply having the dead man be the "emergency" position itself. So when you let go of it from any position besides full service, it would snap back to emergency (with enough force to pass the full service notch). However, if the springs are not set right, you might have a possibility of them being strong enough to move it to emergency even if it is stopped in the full service notch. Otherwise, that would work with your "rack" handle! |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 15:02:51 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 7 16:32:20 2007. I thought of each controller being activated individually, because what happens when if you try to use both at the same time? Or one is in dead man position while you are using the other. So I figured one could only be activated at a time. Lion's "towel rack" handle idea was interesting. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jul 8 16:15:39 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sat Jul 7 21:04:46 2007. Well riding the 2 for 2 years now i can say the 2 always leaves from the northbound platform and the 5 leaves from the southbound platform. 90% of the time the 2 terminates on the NB side and the 5 on the SB side.However the 10% when they swap ends like the 2 on the SB track and the 5 the NB track the train changes designation and becomes the 2 on the NB track and the 5 on the SB track. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 16:19:07 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jul 8 16:15:39 2007. Been doing that for the past 6 years when i was in the A Div..Wont miss that either Flatbush during the Rush Hour its like those Starting Lights just STAY on.. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 8 16:28:13 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 15:02:51 2007. The actual "guts" of the controller would be in the center and twisting either of the deadman handles would negate the emergency feature. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jul 8 16:30:18 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 16:19:07 2007. Yeah and it is very slow moving the train into the station - if only they had extra space beyond the station like the 7 has.That crossover platform isn't much use at all making me walk around the trains to get back to the segment east of Nostrand Av. I just exit from the sb exit and cross the street. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Jul 8 16:31:48 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 05:58:04 2007. They must have changed it then since when I first got the info, 137 St was being used for selected #3 intervals. The program you're talking about must be relativelt recent. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 16:35:17 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by randyo on Sun Jul 8 16:31:48 2007. Of coruse it is its this picks for the Summer in the A Div Work Program..:o) |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Jul 8 17:09:46 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 7 16:55:18 2007. Things are going to get very very interesting as far as handling OOS trains if I ever get this 2007 BAHN Simulation of the NYC Subway off the ground, which is one of the reasons I've kept my eyes open about the unexpected daily routines that NYCTA does. My LIRR real-life BAHN sim has about a month worth of programming left before that one's done....unlike the BAHN layouts that currently exist, I build REAL yards rather than a depot deposit box. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 18:21:56 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 14:22:55 2007. Yeah, they showed me the moves there.The posting paper assigns to specific jobs, but it can always change, so it says "SEE DISP." Not only if the person doesn't take students, but even if they CAN'T (if they themselves are probational, like on Fri. with the 2222 job I was supposed to have). I ended up doing the last trip with an earlier T/O, and then the last trip with another. SO your training IS longer. I just have the 3 tomorrow, and then the 4. and that's it. And this pushed back a week as it was, because I had vacation last month. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 8 18:30:17 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 8 18:21:56 2007. You mean triple two's right?Yeah i still got three more weeks of Road Posting to do.. I cant wait for my Reg RDO's (Weds Thurs) cant do anything on the weekends too many people out and about. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jul 9 03:47:36 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Eric B on Sat Jul 7 15:32:16 2007. I noticed when gripping the R-142(A) handle that it's easier if you keep your hand off-center, so that more "natural" pressure is applied to keeping the handle from twisting back. Of course, you keep your hand off-center on the part you want twisted toward you.It feels good when locked in Emergency, but I suppose I wouldn't have much experience with what it would feel like in Max Power. ;-) |
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Posted by Eric B on Mon Jul 9 18:53:01 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jul 9 03:47:36 2007. That's basically what I do, but I find when it is pressed in max power, it presses into my palm. I also then use the other hand to hold the other end of the handle, so I can let up with the other hand. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Mon Jul 9 18:55:22 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Eric B on Mon Jul 9 18:53:01 2007. Ok, so when should we expect you back in the B Division? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 9 19:01:06 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Zman179 on Mon Jul 9 18:55:22 2007. LOL Next Pick!!!His G-2 is already Written.. :o) They way we are moving up in Seniority Over here NO WAY im EVER going back to that RCC, ATS Nightmare Formally Know as the A Div.. |
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Posted by Eric B on Mon Jul 9 20:26:28 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 9 19:01:06 2007. You're right. I did already put in to come back. Not because of the handles, of course, though the 160 handles will be a relief.I just wanted to try it out, to see something different. It was so interesting, meeting the class in an all new place everyday just like in the beginning, and now getting to see all these other lines I had never worked. I've even been having dreams about working the A. Div. for a couple of years. I pick in the south anyway, because I don't like the weekend jobs over here in the north (4×J; 3×C, any A, OPTO M, etc), so the traveling is not all that different between the A Div. jobs I have, and B South, but obviously, the B is more where I belong. The ideal jobs would be the M out of Met on weekdays, and 2×C's out of Euclid on weekends. Bt there are not to many of those. Perhaps if they do the lower Manhattan project soon, and have the E to Euclid (which would never be more than two trips). If I could get that all five days, that would be fine. I was thinking about staying here the winter pick and going back next summer as well, but I'm not sure what the pickings would be like in the winter. There might be less RDO reliefs, since less people pick VR in the winter, and I don't want to take the chance with VR, since I know nothing about what that is like over there, and especially after getting socked with late PM's almost this whole last winter pick. Considering the A Div. being smaller; I can't afford to take that chance with such faraway places like 241, 242 and Dyre. 207 at 1:30AM clearing was bad enough. So what's left of this pick is just enough to get a feel of what it is like. Then I can say I did the whole system. (though on the east side and the 7, it will only have been posting. I wish I could get jobs on those lines this Wed. and Thurs. when I most likely go extra list on my RDO's from still having Sat. and Sun off this week. Also, they never did qualify me on the Grand Central Shuttle. I guess that's only if you pick on it). I would probably like to come back down the line, especially when I have a better chance of picking better jobs, especially on the east side. the change will kep me from getting tire of one division. I wonder how long you go in one division before you have to be requalified int he other division. I think some in the class had been away for 3 years, and they had to be requalified. I don't want to have to go through all that again, so maybe I might have to go back and forth more frequently that that. I also wonder if they allow people who are qualified in both to work overtime in the other division from the one they are in that particular time. That would also be a way to see something different for a change every now and then, andkeep myself refreshed in that division. |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Tue Jul 10 01:39:28 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Sat Jul 7 16:55:18 2007. I didnt know they had #2 Put Ins from New Lots on the Ams. Pms Yes. I thought two AM #2 trains leave the Plains to go to New Lots and back.Am's: 3/4/5 Put Ins and 2/5 lay ups. Pm's: 2/3/5 Put Ins and 2/3/4/5 lay ups. Of the course the 4 lay ups becomes the first two trains out of New Lots to begin the midnite service. Then again I havent been in the A div since Nov '03 and things are subject to change.............. Im just a passenger in the A div. |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Jul 10 02:14:54 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Tue Jul 10 01:39:28 2007. from the 5/30/06 schedule (don't have access to the 2007 one, but AFAIK nothing's changed since then):the 0712, 0734, 0755+ and 0842+ out of W/PRD are AM layups in New Lots. The 0745+ out of W/PRD also goes to New Lots, but goes back north 5 minutes later. There aren't any 2's coming out of New Lots in the AMs (unless you count the 0625 and 0704 out of Flatbush that started this thread), and no PM layups there (unless you count 2112 and 0005 which terminate at Flatbush). As for the 4, the 1642 and 1655 out of Woodlawn are the only 4's that layup at New Lots, but only the 2327+ is a putin as the first 4 out of New Lots. The 2340+ (second 4 out of New Lots) comes from the 2217+ out of Woodlawn. The other 4 goes back into service as the 0713+ which starts running express at Utica. I'm just a passenger in both divisions, but I know how to read a timetable. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 10 05:06:05 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Jul 10 02:14:54 2007. Maybe i should have been more "on point" those AM "Put-in's" out of ZooLots on that Deuce are trains that go to Flatbush, Lite..In RTO Terms they are still "Put-Ins" I have to keep reminding myself that i cant "talk shop" sometimes beacuse not everybody who posts here works in the A Div or RTO in general. Thank you for pointing that out to me. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 10 05:53:26 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 10 05:06:05 2007. Heh. Besides, most of us don't even know that Putins are Russian leaders. :) |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Jul 10 10:13:03 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 10 05:53:26 2007. In train talk, a putin is the first revenue service run for a train after it has spent time layed up in a yard or some other layup track. There are special inspections that a crew must do to a putin before it begins the run. Putin is an abbreviation for Put-In, and has nothing to do with any person, living or dead. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 10 12:10:31 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Jul 10 10:13:03 2007. hehe, tell that to this guy: your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 10 14:25:57 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Jul 10 10:13:03 2007. That Joke went Right Over yer head my freind... |
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Posted by Zman179 on Tue Jul 10 20:03:49 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 10 14:25:57 2007. Whizzzzzzzzzz |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Jul 10 20:15:13 2007, in response to Re: Layups and Putins at Flatbush, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 10 05:53:26 2007. or an idiomatic Russian slang for intercourse |
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