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Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006

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A friend of mine has just informed me that R62As 1886-1890 and 2321-2325 are now operating on the 4.
I'm totally lost on what's going on with these cars. 1ST Van Cortlandt cars go to Corona, Now Jerome?!
Can somebody please explain WHY these subway moves have been made?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 23 14:10:37 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006.

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Whoa. R62A's on the 4. Now they've been certainly been on every line.

They're a mainstay on the 1, 7, and S. They ran on the 3, 5, and 6 in the past, and I've seen a couple of them on the 2 during one G/O, and now they're on the 4.

What next? R62's on the 7? R142A's on the 1? R160's on the Staten Island Railway?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Oct 23 14:35:15 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006.

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They are going to put Redbirds back on the Broadway LION.

ROAR

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by vfrt on Mon Oct 23 14:57:03 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 23 14:10:37 2006.

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--- R160's on the Staten Island Railway? ---

Saw them this morning at Port Richmond:)

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Atomsk on Mon Oct 23 14:57:23 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Oct 23 14:35:15 2006.

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They'll need a crane and a reeeeally big hair dryer.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by R30A on Mon Oct 23 14:58:28 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Atomsk on Mon Oct 23 14:57:23 2006.

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Or... they could use some of the over 40 remaining...

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Mon Oct 23 16:28:28 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006.

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I saw that set of R62As this morning. I was kind of suprised also about it, especially since last Friday I rode on a set of R142As on the 4 that were borrowed from the 6 line. And I just saw it again a few minutes ago, running on the middle track southbound past Mt. Eden Avenue.

Not to raise speculation or anything...but since the new Corona Barn is complete and the construction of the yard loop is being done, could these car swaps being done in the last several weeks be a result of a major car swap? Is the MTA ready to move some R142/142A cars to the 7?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Mon Oct 23 16:54:36 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Mon Oct 23 16:28:28 2006.

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I just want to see MORE broadway cars on the 7 espcially the 2156-2280 group. Thats my guess I think the 1651-1840 group are going to the 1 line again thats just MHO. BTW look at 1726-1730. They now belong to the # 3 line.....

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 23 17:14:43 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 23 14:10:37 2006.

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They have run on the (4) at times.

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Dude, there's another set! (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?)

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Mon Oct 23 17:20:59 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Mon Oct 23 16:54:36 2006.

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Dude, you said that there's a R62A set on the 4? (1886-90 and 2321-25)? Well...there's another! This set is the following:

(N) 2390-89-88-87-86 + 2465-64-63-62-61 (S)

The set was heading Manhattan-bound, stopping at Mt. Eden Avenue at 5:10pm this evening. Saw it through my room window. So now there 2 sets of R62As on the 4 running.

To add to that, there's a R62 set from the 3 running here on the 4 as well:

(N) 1415-14-13-12-11 + 1511-12-13-14-15 (S)

Passed by Manhattan-bound about 15 minutes before the R62A did.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Mon Oct 23 17:45:32 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 23 14:10:37 2006.

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What next? R62's on the 7? R142A's on the 1? R160's on the Staten Island Railway?
That's funny cause just now I was thinking about R62As on the Market-Frankford Line with the blue A and blue-diamond B bullets up front...

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Oct 23 18:10:16 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Mon Oct 23 17:45:32 2006.

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They'd need to be regauged if that were to realize. :)

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by David of Broadway on Mon Oct 23 18:44:00 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 23 17:14:43 2006.

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Back when the 3 was running R-62A's, quite a few would creep onto the 4 on weekends that 4 service was extended to New Lots and 3 service cut back in Manhattan.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Oct 23 19:27:25 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006.

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Whoooaaaaaaa. Something's afoot in Subdivision A!

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Mon Oct 23 19:40:47 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006.

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Pretty interesting observation.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Oct 23 19:41:16 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Oct 23 19:27:25 2006.

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It happens from time to time they will go crazy with car assignments.


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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 19:45:26 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006.

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Hem are they finally going to put all the R62's on the 3 and move 3 sets of R62A's to the 4? Also what the hell are Van Cortlandt cars doing on the 4? Shouldn't they have moved that R62A 1730-26 set from the 7 now running on the 3 instead?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Mon Oct 23 19:45:49 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Mon Oct 23 16:28:28 2006.

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Is the MTA ready to move some R142/142A cars to the 7?

They betta...

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 19:46:12 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Mon Oct 23 19:45:49 2006.

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Not.

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Re: Dude, there's another set! (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?)

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Oct 23 19:46:33 2006, in response to Dude, there's another set! (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?), posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Mon Oct 23 17:20:59 2006.

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I was on it.


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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 19:48:08 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by vfrt on Mon Oct 23 14:57:03 2006.

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hehe..i knew i wasn't going crazy when I saw one at West Brighton

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 19:49:13 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Mon Oct 23 16:28:28 2006.

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They will need to buy the R142/a b-unit single cars to insert into an existing 5-car set.
I still don't see this happening yet.
But I would love it if the ex-Pelham lines were all moved back to the mainline on the 1 and the Van Cortlandt ones to the 7.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 19:51:15 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Oct 23 19:41:16 2006.

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Just imagine when it's time for the R160s to go in service. R68s on the E?? R42s on the C?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Mon Oct 23 19:55:22 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 19:46:12 2006.

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No, they betta. PERIOD.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Mon Oct 23 19:59:09 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 19:51:15 2006.

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R38s on the J?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 23 19:59:38 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Mon Oct 23 19:55:22 2006.

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Why?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:15:16 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Mon Oct 23 19:59:09 2006.

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Nah...the R160A-1s are already taking care of the J, Z and M.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Oct 23 20:18:30 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:15:16 2006.

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And the L

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:24:06 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 19:51:15 2006.

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Why? First of all R40S are going to retire 1st so R42's from the J/L/M/Z will be going to CI and if R160's are on the A/C then R32's goes to CI then maybe R38's.

Jamaica Yard is not going to change.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:26:10 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Mon Oct 23 19:55:22 2006.

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They haven't even ordered the 47 single unit cars and it makes NO SENSE to cut up 5 car sets into 6-cars leaving 4 unused sets. That's why until there are the single cars on property this move at most would be 1 set for testing - that is all.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Oct 23 20:30:03 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:24:06 2006.

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Thank you. Every scenario that people draw up ends up flinging R68's over here. We don't want them.


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Re: Dude, there's another set! (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?)

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Oct 23 20:31:46 2006, in response to Dude, there's another set! (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?), posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Mon Oct 23 17:20:59 2006.

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Want to KNOW whats going on?

Heres a few words..

Problem with the R142's...

Bad enough that they have to use cars from other Lines..

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:32:10 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Oct 23 20:30:03 2006.

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I like the R68/A's on the Q/N lines. While R46 on the F/R/G/V lines.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:32:50 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:24:06 2006.

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That was only speculation in a facetious manner, I don't know what the MTA has in store and I'm sure you don't either.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 23 20:33:21 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:32:10 2006.

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I agree. Well said.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:33:50 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:32:10 2006.

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The R68s have to go somewhere if the R160s end up on the Q and N, but where?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 23 20:34:09 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:33:50 2006.

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I heard they might go on the (A).

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:35:26 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:32:50 2006.

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But I highly doubt the changes would be that radical especially since there are a lot of R68/A's and won't all fit in Jamacia or Av X yards.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:36:06 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 23 20:34:09 2006.

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That seemed kind of perceptible from the beginning along with the J/M/Z.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:37:44 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:35:26 2006.

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Well there was a time when it seemed as if R62s would never end up on the 7 line...but there they are now, so who knows.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:37:47 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:33:50 2006.

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They could be moved to the B/W if not the A.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 23 20:37:52 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:36:06 2006.

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I meant to say that the R68A's might go on the (A).

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:39:01 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:37:44 2006.

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R62A's

Because the R142's couldn't work on the 7 line.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:40:02 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:37:44 2006.

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Also because there were already single R62A units so they can easily make an 11-car train.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Oct 23 20:41:02 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:37:47 2006.

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I'd bank more on that. It's more reasonable.


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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:41:14 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:37:47 2006.

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I forgot about those lines, that idea seems reasonable. I actually like that idea a great deal, it seems as if it would work out nicely. You would still have the R44s from the (A) if the R160Bs land on that line and the extra R42s from the J, M and Z from the R160A-1s.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Mon Oct 23 20:42:11 2006, in response to Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Mon Oct 23 13:39:46 2006.

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I'm wondering the same thing too. That set on the 4 was a very crazy sight this morning. The next thing may be an R142 on the 3...if they can put 7411-7415 on the 4, then it can happen. I guess these weird happenings are just normal for the next few months.

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:43:21 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 23 20:37:52 2006.

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they could bring the rest of the R68's as there are more R44's than R68A's. And may as well move off more R32's to CI.

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The SubTalk Police are at it Again

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Oct 23 20:44:11 2006, in response to Re: Dude, there's another set! (Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?), posted by Railman718 on Mon Oct 23 20:31:46 2006.

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Whenever a non assigned car comes onto a line, why is it either the car assignment police of SubTalk come out en masse or the rest of them get a mental erection? How many time do you guys have to be told that NYCT needs X number of trains on every line to provide full service? Sometimes cars from other lines fill in where needed. This does not phase the average rider. But how many average people do we have here?

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Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Oct 23 20:44:16 2006, in response to Re: Need a CLEAR explanation on what's going on here?, posted by tydev417 on Mon Oct 23 20:41:14 2006.

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See.

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