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FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 27 23:05:31 2023 |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Tue Mar 28 00:24:08 2023, in response to FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 27 23:05:31 2023. i do remember watching that neighborhood turn into a higher density neighborhood. many single and two family houses getting torn down, many apartment buildings being stuck in every open area. in about a decade the whole place got crowded. broadway especially.this was strange to my brooklyn soul. most brooklyn streets and neighborhoods, once built, stay the way they are. queens is weird. but yeah, re-open elmhurst station. never boarded there much, once or twice between elmhurst and flushing, a few times elmhurst to woodside. sucks that it's the port washington branch. but i do have that weakness of really liking taking commuter trains from in-city commuter line railroad stations to other in-city commuter line railroad stations within mid-city areas that are not huge rush hour destinations and that are also served by subway lines. okay, i admit it's a pretty specific weakness. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Mar 28 07:35:15 2023, in response to FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 27 23:05:31 2023. Only if the entire line is transfered to the IND/BMT and the#7 line re-routed to Ditmars Blvd. The Flushing Line upgraded to B-Division standards. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Tue Mar 28 17:05:41 2023, in response to FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 27 23:05:31 2023. The biggest benefit would be linking to Elmhurst's Chinese community to Flushing. I can see that being a large and unexpected ridership generator. As it stands I can't see much traditional Manhattan-oriented ridership from there since the ride on the M/R from Elmhurst Ave isn't that bad (or you can just walk to Roosevelt Ave). If there is a Queens LIRR stop I wish would come back it would be Rego Park. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Mar 28 17:42:42 2023, in response to Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by shiznit1987 on Tue Mar 28 17:05:41 2023. I could see Rego Park being a bigger ridership generator than Elmhurst. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Mar 28 19:17:16 2023, in response to FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 27 23:05:31 2023. Only 53% of Queens residents live within 1/2 mile of an existing subway entrance. The is substantially lower than Manhattan's 98.5%, Brooklyn's 86.5% and the Bronx' 82.8%. I did not mention Staten Island because the MTA's Open Data site for station entrances does not include the SIRT.The IND's 1929 Second System consisted of 100 route miles, of which 52 would have been in Queens. Had any of it been built, it would have addressed this deficiency and provided service to the areas of Brooklyn and the Bronx that lacked walk to subway access. The Second System's goals have been forgotten in subsequent expansion plans. The proposals have placed service in areas that already enjoyed walk to train access. The Elmhurst LIRR station reopening illustrates this diversion of funds to areas that already have more than adequate transportation. The Elmhurst LIRR reopening will not provide any additional 1/2 mile access to anyone. The Queens-wide median distance to a subway station is 0.431 miles. It will remain 0.432 miles. More importantly the median distance will remain at 0.899 miles. This disparity between mean and median suggests that a significant number of Queens residents live a long way from a subway station. The statistics are not much better for the area within 1/2 mile of the Elmhurst LIRR station. The population is 67,488, according to the 2020 census. All live within 1/2 mile of an existing subway entrance. It will provide some benefit to those living on top of the LIRR station. The mean distance to the subway will be reduced from 0.124 to 0.120 miles (21 ft). The median distance will be reduce from 0.107 to 0.106 miles (5 ft). All this improvement for an estimated $60 million (up from $33 million about 5 years ago). |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Mar 28 19:19:19 2023, in response to FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 27 23:05:31 2023. This was in their capital plan 10 years ago, but then canceled. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 29 08:51:45 2023, in response to FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 27 23:05:31 2023. Reopen? Reopen what? They'd need to build a new station from scratch. For what reason? |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 29 08:52:36 2023, in response to Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Tue Mar 28 19:17:16 2023. Large parts of Queens are happy about that. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 29 12:55:27 2023, in response to Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 29 08:51:45 2023. Correct. That station was demolished almost overnight right after the station was closed. It seems like the MTA was worried about those who used the station to mount a protest to get the station reopend. The plan was to make sure that there would be nothing to reopen. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 29 13:39:46 2023, in response to FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Mar 27 23:05:31 2023. Do you still have your own youtube video channel? |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Wed Mar 29 18:39:23 2023, in response to Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 29 12:55:27 2023. Jim: That was an old trick the trolley companies used to do. The tracks leading to the car barn were always the first torn up. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 30 00:09:10 2023, in response to Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by ntrainride on Tue Mar 28 00:24:08 2023. Lol.. and there is nothing wrong about that. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 30 00:13:41 2023, in response to Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 29 12:55:27 2023. That sounds like what happened when the myrtle el was torn down. When the IND took over Fulton, the old structure remained for 2 years before it was completely demolished whereas Myrtle was razed almost immediately. That was because there was local, opposition to shutting down the el and the city wanted to make sure that the el was removed as quickly as possible so that if any lawsuit were successful, both the city and the TA could point that restoration of the service would be prohibitively expensive because the el was no longer in place and would have to be rebuilt from scratch. |
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Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Mar 30 00:21:09 2023, in response to Re: FOX5 news: Should the LIRR reopen its Elmhurst, Queens station?, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Mar 28 07:35:15 2023. All of that needs to happen for real, not to speculated upon. |
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