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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 19:33:42 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 18:07:05 2020. And trains that ended at Chambers Street didn’t run under Nassau Street at all. SMH. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Sep 17 20:17:11 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 17 17:17:46 2020. I doubt it’s anything more than a reference to the ocean. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Sep 17 20:21:43 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 18:01:36 2020. It was just as well. I remember the family up the block let me tag along with them there a few times in ‘84 and ‘85 and it seemed shittier and shittier. They always blame the insurance as the reason for not reopening but it was a shabby dump in 1985. |
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Posted by northshore on Thu Sep 17 20:26:49 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 17 17:17:46 2020. Wavecrest was a resort hotel years ago. resort homes and hotels formed the community of Wavecrest, a section of Far Rockaway |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 18 02:08:37 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 18:00:22 2020. Well The current Van Wyck Expwy pretty much follows the path of the original VanWyck Blvd. There are a few other avenues and boulevards that ended up as routes for highways. In the Bronx, Deegan Blvd became the route of the Major Deegan Expwy, and Horace Harding Blvd evolved into the Horace Harding Expwy which is now the LIE. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 18 02:15:08 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 18:01:36 2020. Intersting note about Playland is that a former TA M/M Peter Horowitz used to have a side business maintaining gaming machines in the Playland amusement park and when the original owner of the park wanted to close it down, Peter managed to scrape up enough money to purchase it. What the actual financial arrangements were I don’t know. A few years later, a developer came along and offered Peter more money than he could ever hope to make in a lifetime so Peter sold. Unfortunately not too long after the sale the developer went belly up and a bit later Peter passed away. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 18 02:16:57 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 19:33:42 2020. Correct, not to mention the Bway Bkln lcls that terminated at Canal. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 18 02:20:04 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 17 19:32:33 2020. Interestingly, Sheepshead Bay on the Brighton Line is actually at Sheepshead bay Road and the Brighton Bch station is over Brighton Bch Avenue. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Fri Sep 18 08:12:16 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 18 02:08:37 2020. Also Bruckner Blvd shares its name with the Bruckner Expressway which runs down its center and above it through several Bronx neighborhoods on its way to the Triboro Bridge. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Sep 18 12:56:30 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Fri Sep 18 02:20:04 2020. But that part of Sheepshead Bay Road was Shore Road when the station was established.And Brighton Beach and the line well predate Brighton Beach Avenue, which was the location of the Race Track Grand Stands until the current structure was built. |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Sat Sep 19 18:04:12 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 17:37:41 2020. Honorable mention for Broadway-East New York now called Broadway Junction.Vader |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Sep 19 19:53:10 2020, in response to Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Sep 16 15:24:45 2020. I notice that when a station becomes a terminal they tend to add the name (e.g. When the N terminated at 86th Street it was called Gravesend-86th Street. When it was extended back to Coney Island they just called it 86th Street) |
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Posted by K. Trout on Sat Sep 19 21:27:57 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Lord Vader on Sat Sep 19 18:04:12 2020. Isn't the immediately surrounding neighborhood also sometimes referred to as Broadway Junction, presumably derived from the station? |
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Posted by K. Trout on Sat Sep 19 21:38:04 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by K. Trout on Sat Sep 19 21:27:57 2020. On a related note, the area around the intersection of Nostrand and Flatbush is locally referred to "The Junction". I've always wondered if there was a rail influence of some kind. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 19 22:00:06 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by K. Trout on Sat Sep 19 21:38:04 2020. I never gave it too much though but it two major Brooklyn avenues intersecting with a train terminal and bus lines. As far as I’m concerned that’s The Junction. |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Sat Sep 19 22:16:13 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by K. Trout on Sat Sep 19 21:27:57 2020. Seen it on maps but never heard anyone refer to the neighborhood by that name. It was always East New York.Vader |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Sat Sep 19 22:21:03 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by K. Trout on Sat Sep 19 21:38:04 2020. Likely trolleys.Vader |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 01:21:43 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Sep 19 22:00:06 2020. It was the junction between the Flatbush and Nostrand Ave trolley lines. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 01:25:56 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Lord Vader on Sat Sep 19 22:16:13 2020. AFAIK, E New York is the name of the neighborhood. Although the name of the station was “Broadway East NY” the destination signs read “Fulton- East NY” a reference to the station being on the IND Fulton St Line. The Euclid and Lefferts readings were also preceded by the name “Fulton” even though neither station is actually on Fulton St simply to indicate the name of the line that the trains travel on. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 01:27:46 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sat Sep 19 19:53:10 2020. I doubt that the station name itself was changed, just the readings on the trains and that would be to distinguish it from 86 St/4 Av to avoid passenger confusion. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Sep 20 07:05:25 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 01:21:43 2020. RightThank you |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 20 07:46:59 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 16 20:35:04 2020. Arverne By The Sea is a fairly recent development in The Rockaways, and appears on station signage at B. 67 Street. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Sun Sep 20 13:34:13 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 01:21:43 2020. Makes sense. |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Sun Sep 20 14:26:21 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 01:25:56 2020. Fulton-76 Street😁 Vader |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 15:03:11 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Lord Vader on Sun Sep 20 14:26:21 2020. 76 St was NEVER, NEVER, NEVER designed to be a terminal!!!!!!! Etch that concept into your very soul! |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Sep 21 10:48:41 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 20 07:46:59 2020. thank u |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Sep 21 10:49:44 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Thu Sep 17 17:53:49 2020. thank u |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Mon Sep 21 10:51:46 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Lord Vader on Sat Sep 19 18:04:12 2020. yes! i did think of that thank u |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Sep 21 12:15:35 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 01:25:56 2020. The former BMT - L-train station platform was called Broadway Junction, while the former BMT - now current J/Z platforms were called Eastern Parkway. I remember and have train maps that refer to those names.Mike |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Sep 21 12:21:37 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 16 17:37:41 2020. Almost all SIR stations... |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Sep 21 14:10:18 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Michael549 on Mon Sep 21 12:15:35 2020. Eastern Parkway station shot in The Warriors, 1979. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Sep 21 16:29:46 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Michael549 on Mon Sep 21 12:15:35 2020. I always wondered why The IND's Broadway-East New York station was not originally named Broadway Junction until recently. After all, the Board of Transportation had owned the BMT for over 6 years. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Sep 21 17:11:41 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Michael549 on Mon Sep 21 12:15:35 2020. So do the current roll signs on the R32's - Eastern Parkway. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Sep 21 17:16:32 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Sep 21 16:29:46 2020. Changing station names on multiple lines that share a common transfer location is a relatively new concept on the NYCTA although some other transit systems in the country had done it earlier. |
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Posted by K. Trout on Tue Sep 22 01:03:12 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 20 07:46:59 2020. The name Arverne itself dates back to the 19th century, though. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 22 12:29:51 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Sep 20 07:46:59 2020. That’s true but Arverne as a neighborhood had been established 100 years before current Arverne By the Sea was conceived. |
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Posted by broadway buffer on Wed Sep 23 16:47:36 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by randyo on Sun Sep 20 01:27:46 2020. I remember hearing that the decision to add neighborhood names to most terminals in recent context was one by a senior director at Operations Planning during the early 2000s. While their later replacement did not feel as strongly about the subject, some neighborhood names, such as Harlem in Harlem-145th St were removed since the station itself was not necessarily at the heart of the neighborhood, anymore than say, 125th St was. Likewise for Lower Manhattan-Whitehall St, more appropriately FiDi-Whitehall St today anyway.Of course, there’s still inconsistencies, and when it comes to station signage, the neighborhood names are generally not included. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 23 17:34:32 2020, in response to Re: Subway stations named after neighborhoods, posted by broadway buffer on Wed Sep 23 16:47:36 2020. I remember that neighborhoods like "Wakefield-241st Street" were added in the mid-90s. |
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