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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018  Westchester & St. Ann's Ave (Undated)  14th St Station Construction - Lexington Ave Line (ca.1904)  Construction of Columbus Circle Subway- 7th Ave line (Undated)  Yankee Stadium and the IRT Woodlawn-Jerome Line (April 19, 1923)  IRT City Hall Station 3 Days Before closure (December 27, 1945) 
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat May 19 09:19:57 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018. I,d really be impressed if there were photos of 76st-n- Pitkin ave.i,ll go take a nap now. |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat May 19 09:42:49 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat May 19 09:19:57 2018. I,d really be impressed if there were photos of 76st-n- Pitkin ave.i,ll go take a nap now I think that's a good idea. At your advanced age you need all the sleep you can get. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 19 10:05:32 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018. WOW NICE! I can't believe how desolate the area was by Yankee Stadium then. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat May 19 13:47:08 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat May 19 09:42:49 2018. Don't oversleep, or you will miss Lawrence Welk! |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat May 19 13:59:25 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Elkeeper on Sat May 19 13:47:08 2018. can`t do that,i,m the guy that turns off the bubblemachine. |
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Posted by chud1 on Sat May 19 14:15:07 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018. 5 drooling stars out of 5 drooling stars.chud1. :)..... |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 19 14:32:59 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat May 19 10:05:32 2018. Not desolate but undeveloped. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat May 19 15:05:56 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Dave on Sat May 19 14:32:59 2018. Like Queens Blvd in the early Flushing line days. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat May 19 15:14:50 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018. Two observations. There were color postcards issued depicting the opening of the IRT to Bkln which depicted a Gibbs car painted green. AFAIK, the early gibbs cars were Tuscan red except for the very last group which were painted grey like the Lo-Vs for the 100th anniversary since the IRT felt that it was too costly to keep removing the steel dust and repainting the cars. Also in the photo of Westchester and St Ann’s Ave there is only elevated type 3rd rail instead of the dual subway and el 3rd rail which became standard IRT practice in later years in places where there was joint subway and el operation. Also it was pretty much IRT practice to name their towers for the closest street intersection to the actual tower location. In the case of the first tower in the photo it has always been called “Brook Tower” even though Brook Ave is actually a block west of the tower location and the tower probably should have been called “St Ann’s Tower." |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sat May 19 16:34:59 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018. Great photos!!! |
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Posted by Express Rider on Sat May 19 18:02:43 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat May 19 13:59:25 2018. LOL :) |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 19:15:49 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by randyo on Sat May 19 15:14:50 2018. Also in the photo of Westchester and St Ann’s Ave there is only elevated type 3rd rail instead of the dual subway and el 3rd rail which became standard IRT practice in later years in places where there was joint subway and el operation.Maybe the IRT installed the subway style third rail later ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat May 19 22:32:48 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 19:15:49 2018. From what I understand, when the Westchester Avenue branch was opened, the 2nd & 3rd Avenue Els provided the service for approximately a year until the subway tunnel under the Harlem River was completed. |
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Posted by randyo on Sun May 20 01:30:50 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 19:15:49 2018. It’’s quite possible but it really wasn’t needed since the BMT functioned perfectly well with both subway and el equipment using el type 3rd rail. Considering the IRT was a cheaper outfit than the BMT it’s surprising that it went to the expense of additional 3rd rail when it wasn’t needed. |
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Posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun May 20 08:54:04 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018. Nice shots, but the first pic puzzles me - is that just a result of early 20th century photography, and that's water on the platform, or what? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 20 10:41:48 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Elkeeper on Sat May 19 13:47:08 2018. Uncle Larry..... |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sun May 20 12:32:33 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sat May 19 22:32:48 2018. From what I understand, when the Westchester Avenue branch was opened, the 2nd & 3rd Avenue Els provided the service for approximately a year until the subway tunnel under the Harlem River was completed. That is correct. Second and Third Avenue trains provided all service on the West Farms Line from November 26, 1904 to July 10, 1905. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 20 14:48:04 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by randyo on Sun May 20 01:30:50 2018. The BRT/BMT did not have to deal with a semi-autonomous Manhattan Elevated Railway.That 1903 lease was very costly for the IRT! |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 20 15:04:27 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat May 19 13:59:25 2018. Tank you, tank you, Steve! An'a now da lovely Lennon Sisters! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun May 20 15:48:43 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Lou From Middletown NY on Sun May 20 08:54:04 2018. Nice shots, but the first pic puzzles me - is that just a result of early 20th century photography, and that's water on the platform, or what?I don't know for sure. I see some porters with brooms cleaning up the platform. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by randyo on Sun May 20 16:18:03 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Elkeeper on Sun May 20 14:48:04 2018. It may have been costly to a certain degree, but if the MER were operating over IRT subway trackage it would have had to go along with what the IRT wanted or possibly lose its trackage rights. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 21 10:02:44 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by randyo on Sun May 20 16:18:03 2018. The IRT should have bought the MER outright. Up until its near-bankruptcy in 1921, it was saddled with a mandatory 7% annual return on its bonds. After the Dual Contracts, they somehow convinced the IRT to build the Anderson-Jerome tunnel for el type third rail and made sure that IRT subway cars would never be able to use them, unless they cut back their subway type 3rd rail. The towers along the Jerome Line were operated by MER employees. Returning to the 1922 bond issue, the MER held up the closing and demolition of the elevated Grand Central shuttle, until the interest payments had been restructured and a majority of their securities holders had reluctantly agreed with this. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon May 21 10:39:55 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Dave on Sat May 19 14:32:59 2018. That's a better adjective. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon May 21 15:53:19 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Elkeeper on Mon May 21 10:02:44 2018. Are you sure about the tower operators? It doesn’t make any sense for towers on a predominantly subway portion of the line to be staffed by el personnel. Stretching it a bi, it could be possible that 167 St tower might have been staffed by an MER employee since it did control movements for both subway and el trains moving onto MER trackage but I can’t see the rest of the towers being staffed by any but subway division personnel. |
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Posted by menJop on Tue May 22 02:13:43 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018. Nice pics. The "undated" Columbus Circle one looks like it's dated 9-10-1901. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue May 22 04:30:50 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat May 19 08:12:19 2018. amazing photos.Thanks for posting. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue May 22 06:41:23 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by menJop on Tue May 22 02:13:43 2018. Nice pics. The "undated" Columbus Circle one looks like it's dated 9-10-1901.Thanks, didn't see the date. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue May 22 09:50:12 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] Vintage IRT Photos, posted by TUNNELRAT on Sat May 19 13:59:25 2018. Turn off de bubbles...... |
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