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MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 16:44:35 2014

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Notices will go out early November.

Public hearing will be held in December.

4% fare hike goes in effect in March 2015. $2.60 a a ride.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by JAzumah on Mon Oct 27 16:53:54 2014, in response to MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 16:44:35 2014.

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Not high enough.

Raise it high enough to get what we need done faster.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Oct 27 17:04:23 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by JAzumah on Mon Oct 27 16:53:54 2014.

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Agreed but the fare is as political just as much as what is needed to try to cover expenses.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Oct 27 17:22:23 2014, in response to MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 16:44:35 2014.

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Assuming they keep the 5% MetroCard "bonus", the real fare will remain under $2.50 a ride, but just barely.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Allan on Mon Oct 27 18:50:15 2014, in response to MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 16:44:35 2014.

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That, of course, assumes that the 4% is set for each fare structure (Subway/bus, MNRR, LIRR) or is just an overall average.

You know the MTA with their creative math.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Allan on Mon Oct 27 19:01:09 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Oct 27 17:22:23 2014.

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Yes, it will be $2.48.

BTW - if they do keep the 5% on the new base fare of $2.60. There will be only 3 whole nickel amount (remember the MVMs can only work on whole nickel amounts) where there will be nothing left over:

$9.90 with bonus is $10.40 which equals 4 fares. (Double that-$19.80 will fall 1 cent short at $20.79)
$47.05 with bonus is $49.40 which equals 19 fares.
$52.00 with bonus equals $54.60 which equals 21 fares.

The MTA should really consider allowing "off-amounts) - that is amounts between the 5 cent increments - in MVMs for credit/debit transactions.

Example: $19.81 with bonus is $20.80 which equals 8 fares.

---- I know what some are going to say BUT - I am one of those who do not like have non full fare amounts left over on my MetroCard.
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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 19:12:32 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Allan on Mon Oct 27 19:01:09 2014.

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MTA should accept pennies right now.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Allan on Mon Oct 27 19:30:56 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 19:12:32 2014.

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MVMs just don't have the ability/storage capacity to handle penny coins.

They should get the program changed to allow for the machines to handle penny amounts on credit/debit transactions. But of course that might make sense.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by merrick1 on Mon Oct 27 19:41:31 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 19:12:32 2014.

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I don't think that would be a good idea. People would get rid of their jars of pennies by spending them in MVMs.

When post offices had stamp vending machines they took pennies. I once got caught behind some people who were buying stamps with pennies. I think stamps were 39 cents at the time. They deposited 39 pennies and bought a stamp and deposited 39 more pennies and bought another stamp and on and on.

I decided mailing my credit card payment could wait until tomorrow.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 21:00:11 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by merrick1 on Mon Oct 27 19:41:31 2014.

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Hooray for doing things online.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by merrick1 on Tue Oct 28 07:18:11 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 27 21:00:11 2014.

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And now if you do need a stamp for some reason you can get one on line.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 08:26:54 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by merrick1 on Tue Oct 28 07:18:11 2014.

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No, not really. Online postage is only worthwhile if you mail a lot of things.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 28 08:30:01 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Oct 28 08:26:54 2014.

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Instead, buy stamps at Costco or Staples, etc.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by SubwaySurf on Tue Oct 28 21:22:12 2014, in response to MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 16:44:35 2014.

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Ho hum

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by b1bus on Fri Oct 31 03:47:04 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by merrick1 on Mon Oct 27 19:41:31 2014.

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Yep, I used to do that at the main P.O. at 34st.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by b1bus on Fri Oct 31 03:48:00 2014, in response to MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 16:44:35 2014.

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Probably 2.75 to avoid dimes/nickels.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Oct 31 08:46:10 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by b1bus on Fri Oct 31 03:48:00 2014.

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So if that were the case, the reduced-fare would be $1.35?

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 31 10:30:23 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 19:12:32 2014.

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No. The Mint should stop making pennies.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Oct 31 10:52:27 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 19:12:32 2014.

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NOBODY has to accept pennies.

ROAR

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by MATHA531 on Fri Oct 31 11:19:06 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 19:12:32 2014.

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Canada, as in so many things, is way ahead of us on this. They have stopped minting pennies. All cash prices are rounded to the nearest nickel. But credit card still go through to the penny. In August, I was at a Mickey D in Vancouver. Cashier asked me for $6 (Canadian of course); gave my credit card and charge was listed as Can $5.98 which was then converted by my bank to US$...point is this is a no brainer, very pragmatic but of course the MTA will never do anything that shows it lives in the 21st century; if it were up to some of these clowns, we would still be using tokens.

As far as the fare, it should go to $2.75 but should allow at least 3 swipes on one fare (bus-subway-bus) to be fair; again something all modern transit systems have no problem doing. But this is NY and some moron at NYCT will tell us how people will take advantage of this and so the poor person who needs 3 rides to get to work or whatever will suffer because of MTA paranoia.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Oct 31 12:10:47 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by merrick1 on Mon Oct 27 19:41:31 2014.

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They could put a limit of four pennies per transaction. which would mean pennies accepted ONLY for the odd cents over a five-cent multiple.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Oct 31 12:25:41 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Oct 31 12:10:47 2014.

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That to me makes more sense (not CENTS! lol). If something costs $2.19, use the two dollar bills, and a mix of either 1 dime, 1 nickel and 4 pennies, or 3 nickels and the 4 pennies. But not 19 pennies.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 14:13:03 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Oct 31 10:52:27 2014.

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I believe under Federal law all coins and bills minted and printed by the US Government are legal tender and as such must be accepted for payment.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 15:52:57 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by randyo on Fri Oct 31 14:13:03 2014.

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I've read plenty of stories to indicate you can't pay your bills with pennies.


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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Fri Oct 31 20:56:24 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Allan on Mon Oct 27 19:01:09 2014.

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They could allow off amounts for credit card purchases. They already sell pre-valued $10 cards outside the system for $9.52. The concept of "off" amounts isn't foreign to them.

Do we know yet if they are going offer alternatives (ie: various combination of base fare, bonus, and unlimited changes that would achieve the same 4% increase in fare revenue)?

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Oct 31 20:58:12 2014, in response to MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Gold_12th on Mon Oct 27 16:44:35 2014.

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What about the Bridges and Tunnels? Bet it is 50 cents and $1 for the Verrazano. That woud be more than 4%. Staten Islanders will probably get their toll reduced again.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by b1bus on Sat Nov 1 14:15:40 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 31 10:30:23 2014.

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+1

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by b1bus on Sat Nov 1 14:16:41 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 15:52:57 2014.

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There are stories on the news that when people are PISSED off at some one they are paying for whatever reason, they pay with a wheelbarrow full of pennies.

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Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing

Posted by b1bus on Sat Nov 1 14:18:16 2014, in response to Re: MTA fare hike 2015, public hearing, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Fri Oct 31 08:46:10 2014.

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Yes, when the fare was 1.25, 1/2 fare was .60..

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