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Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Oct 22 19:49:07 2014

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ELIT GREEN BUILDERS CORP. ... $4,720,000.00
FORTE CONSTRUCTION CORP. ... $3,090,000.00
J-TRACK LLC. ... $3,700,000.00
PAUL J SCARIANO INC. ... $3,837,000.00

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 22 23:31:53 2014, in response to Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Oct 22 19:49:07 2014.

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I hope they expose a piece of the original wall, so the world can see what it used to look like. The orange brick is so 1980s.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Allan on Thu Oct 23 09:44:42 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 22 23:31:53 2014.

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I say remove all the orange tile and restore the original walls.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 23 11:07:18 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Allan on Thu Oct 23 09:44:42 2014.

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It's ridiculous that midtown stations should undergo a second round of renovations while many outer borough stations have never undergone one.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Gene B. on Thu Oct 23 11:20:31 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 22 23:31:53 2014.

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The orange brick is unique and cool. I think more stations should have been done in orange brick.
The original tiles are so 1920's.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Oct 23 12:57:32 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 23 11:07:18 2014.

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No it's not, if the issues being addressed are more critical at the midtown stations than at the outer borough stations.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 23 13:37:52 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Gene B. on Thu Oct 23 11:20:31 2014.

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I suspect that the 49 St station will be redone like many of the stations on the Bway Subway to as close as possible to the original tile appearance.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:53:42 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 22 23:31:53 2014.

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Most of these renovations have removed the 1960's and 70's era tiling, which in this case, I don't see why not.
I do have a lot of nostalgia for this station, as back in the 70's, when the whole system was so grim, dark, and falling apart, this station was like a beacon, bright, and clean and modern. But it's time has come full circle. It's time to move on, and restore it to what it should be.....it's time for a renovation, as the station has begun to show wear. And yes, at this point, about 50 years since it was renovated, is time to be renovated again.

So I hope to see this once again:



Here's a photo I took about 8 years ago below:


It's bittersweet for me, as again, being a product of the 70's, and remember what the system was like, and remembering this station back then, it's hard to let it go, but it's time.....

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:55:32 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 23 11:07:18 2014.

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?????????

The station hasn't been renovated since the late 60's.....it's almost 50 years!!!! It's time.

And it goes by usage. I guarantee the usage at whatever station you are talking about doesn't come close to the what 49th St has.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:56:07 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Gene B. on Thu Oct 23 11:20:31 2014.

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Ugh....and orange brick is so 1970's.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 23 13:59:08 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:53:42 2014.

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I'm not sure if the original tiling was removed. I think it was merely covered over.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 14:05:34 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 23 13:59:08 2014.

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Yes, In all likelimness it was covered over like at 23rd St and all the rest of them that were recently restored.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Oct 23 14:06:38 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:53:42 2014.

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I did enjoy seeing 49 St after it was redone. Happened not long before I moved from NYC.

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(They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Gold_12th on Thu Oct 23 14:13:24 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 22 23:31:53 2014.

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This project will repair select station elements within the 49th Street station on the BMT Broadway Line in the borough of Manhattan.

Work will include replacement of platform edges and street stair ceiling/passageway repair work.

http://web.mta.info/capitaldashboard/allframenew_head.html?PROJNUM=t6041282&PLTYPE=1

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Oct 23 14:18:16 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:56:07 2014.

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Yes, it is 1970s. And while it's less attractive than an replica of BRT/BMT work would be, it's been in place so long there that in my opinion, it actually kind of belongs now.

We have lots of BRT/BMT restorations- let's keep this one in the "Best (if there is such a thing) of the 70s". Now, Rector is one desperate-looking station- as is 8th Ave (on the N).

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by MainR3664 on Thu Oct 23 14:20:43 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:53:42 2014.

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Your second caption perfectly explains my feeling as to why it should be kept. But I suppose it's not a decision either of us gets to make :)

I wish Broad Street, Fulton (J/Z) and 8th Avenue had retained their IND look. It was original in those locations.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 14:31:35 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Oct 23 14:18:16 2014.

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Yes, Rector St is awful....but that's also a 1960's era, bed renovation, with these tiles waiting underneath to be restored. I don't know why they didn't do Rector St with the other ones.





Granted, yes, 49th St was done better than the other Broadway Stations in the 60's, but still, it's still 50 years old almost and in need of renovation. The stations along 4th Ave in Brooklyn also desperate to have their awful 1960's tile removed to restore the original walls.

As for 8th Ave on the N, isn't that an outdoor station? A different category of station.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 14:58:18 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Oct 23 14:20:43 2014.

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No, I totally approve of the renovations at Broad and Fulton, as well as 8th Ave. (And add Essex St to that too). At all those stations, they did an absolutely fantastic job at recreating the tile look of what should have been there from the beginning. The only reason they didn't get that Centre St line look is that the city cheaped out, and decided to do it in the IND look of the new IND.
There's plenty of actual IND stations where you can admire the simplistic IND look, but I think they did an astounding job at Broad, Fulton, and 8th Ave to match the rest of the line (and Essex, which only had plain white tiles to begin with no decoration).

That said, I also enjoy the simplistic IND look, and unfortunately at many of the renovated IND stations, the new tile does not conform as well as it should to the original IND font and look.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 15:01:07 2014, in response to (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Oct 23 14:13:24 2014.

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That is kind of what I figured, as it said "mini-project", and they would never have been able to do a real renovation for the $2 million price tag. (Sounds crazy, but today, none of these projects come cheap).

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by ALANTRAIN on Thu Oct 23 15:08:49 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 15:01:07 2014.

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Something else about this station. It seems much quieter than the other b'way line stations. The train sound is muffled. Am I right?

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 23 15:13:19 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by ALANTRAIN on Thu Oct 23 15:08:49 2014.

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When the orange brick was first put up, didn't the description that was posted say something about sound-absorbing material being used there?

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by northshore on Thu Oct 23 15:39:49 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Oct 23 15:13:19 2014.

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There are sound absorbing panels between the columns of the express and local tracks. It's also at some local Queens Blvd. stations. It works wonders.
I also like the way the fluorescent lighting was designed for this station.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by randyo on Thu Oct 23 16:27:34 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 14:58:18 2014.

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It's not so much that the city "cheaped out," but that the Nassau St and 14/8 style was state of the art for city subway construction at the time and was done at the same time as the iND. If I recall, the underground LIRR woodhaven Blvd station was done similarly.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Oct 23 16:31:02 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 15:01:07 2014.

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yep, MTA is cheap.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 16:54:42 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by ALANTRAIN on Thu Oct 23 15:08:49 2014.

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Yes, it was part of a very expensive sound deadening test.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 16:55:29 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by gOlD_12tH on Thu Oct 23 16:31:02 2014.

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?????? There was no MTA when Broad St, 8th Ave, and Fulton were originally built.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 23 16:56:20 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 16:55:29 2014.

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Um, that's not what he was responding to.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 23 17:32:24 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:55:32 2014.

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The question is if the renovations will address serious structural issues or are purely cosmetic.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Michael549 on Thu Oct 23 19:24:37 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:55:32 2014.

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According to Wikipedia:

49th Street was originally built in the same style as the other BMT Broadway stations but underwent an experimental renovation in October 1973. New tiling of red glazed brick was installed over the original BMT-style tiled walls, reducing the platforms' widths by several inches; in addition, special ceiling soundproofing and terrazzo flooring were installed. Since the renovation, three of the four street entrances have been reconstructed, leaving only the 47th Street exit on the southbound platform with the red brick appearance; additionally, the soundproofing experiment was not repeated at any other station. Additional false brick tiles were added some time after the 1973 renovation, indicating the presence of a station facility. A passageway leading to an exit at West 47th Street and Broadway was also added after the renovation. Also, one of the staircases on the southbound side is walled off, making only one staircase available to the southbound side.

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Please note that the renovation of the 49th Street station was done while I was in high school. I passed through that station on a regular basis when both the EE and RR trains ran, and I remember the old tile work. If the renovation occurred as you said that would mean it happened when I was 7 years old!

The renovation work only occurred about 41 years ago, in October 1973 according to the NYC Subway.Org!

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Oct 23 19:39:45 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by northshore on Thu Oct 23 15:39:49 2014.

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Did they ever insulate 57th St? After all, it's right next to Carnegie Hall. Supposedly subway rumble can be heard on at least one Toscanini recording made there.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Oct 23 20:05:38 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 23 16:56:20 2014.

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Lol....sorry...I mixed it up with the post about when broad, etc were built. My bad.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by K. Trout on Thu Oct 23 23:01:32 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 14:58:18 2014.

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That said, I also enjoy the simplistic IND look, and unfortunately at many of the renovated IND stations, the new tile does not conform as well as it should to the original IND font and look.


I never understood why Canal, Chambers, etc are sliiiiightly off. It's not like the IND style is complicated!

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:44:39 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 14:58:18 2014.

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I do agree they did great work at Broad, Fulton, and Essex (which was, IMO a hodgepodge of various fuglinesses prior to renovation).

Having said that, we can agree to differ on whether the IND look should have been retained elsewhere. I know I'm the only person on here who's voiced that thought, but what the hell :)

Anyhow, until very recently, I agree that renovations at IND stations were sort of "off-key"- like at 42nd/8th and 59th/Columbus Circle. Even at Roosevelt Ave, they couldn't match the tile. I also don't like what they did at 34th/6th and 14th/8th.

But go to Fulton Street (A/C), and you'd never know that only a year or two ago, it was "Broadway-Nassau". They did a perfect, or nearly perfect job matching the original look. The first time I saw it, it took me a few seconds to realize there'd been a change!! I hope they do that on all future IND renovations.

Imagine if they re-did the Archer Avenue stations like that- wowza!!

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:53:10 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 14:31:35 2014.

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Yes, 8th Ave., on the N is outdoors, so its issues are of a different nature, and a little off topic. It's still in BAD shape, though.

As for that "bathroom" look done to the 4th Ave and Broadway Lines- ugh!! Get some jackhammers down there ASAP. I think Rector is the only Manhattan station that still has it..

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 11:11:54 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:44:39 2014.

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Ahhh yes.....Archer stations which did not age well at all. I would be up for any retroing they would do there.....its not just the looks that's bad.....but the materials sucked and didn't age well. But judging by your thought on Broad,etc....you would want them to keep the original ugly 80s look rather than retroing back to an older, look to match the rest of the line? After all that would involve making (at least the lower stations have an IND tile look) to keep with the Queens IND line look (which they did at Broad,etc...bring the stations to match the older part of the line.... :)

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 11:14:18 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 07:53:10 2014.

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I agree!!!! And I was always partials to 49th
...so understand the point you made.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Oct 24 14:17:10 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 11:11:54 2014.

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You have accurately pointed out an inconsistency in my station rehab preferences!!

I was proposing to do the Archer Stations in 1930s IND to be consistent with Queens Blvd., while keeping Broad, Fulton, and 8th Avenue in their original, but inconsistent (with the rest of the line) look.

I guess I really just like that look. But I certainly wouldn't suggest putting it back in those stations, or in any other BMT/IRT stations. In fact, how's this Jamaica/Van Wyck, and the upper levels of Sutphin/Archer and Parsons/Archer get done in 1930s IND while the lower levels of the latter 2 stations get BRT/BMT?

I know that two designs in one station would cost a fortune...but this is just a fan discussion board anyway...

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Oct 24 21:50:40 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Oct 22 23:31:53 2014.

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"Don't you worry, madam. You won't recognize the place when we're through! All right men, get to work!"

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Oct 24 22:58:22 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 13:56:07 2014.

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I kind of like the orange brick and indirect(?) lighting. More colorful and striking than the off-white(?) and light blue bricks so many stations got.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Oct 25 01:27:13 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by randyo on Thu Oct 23 13:37:52 2014.

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I certinaly hope so. Never liked the red brick rehab at all.
Hope they will get to restoring the tiled walls of the local stations on 4th Ave. sometime.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 25 07:40:46 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Express Rider on Sat Oct 25 01:27:13 2014.

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Red?

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Wado MP73 on Sat Oct 25 15:26:35 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 23 14:31:35 2014.

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I hope they keep one station with the 1970s tiles for historical purposes. One of the Fourth Ave stations could be it or Rector could be it. Personally, I wished they kept the Broadway Bridge tracks at Canal that way. They kinda looked good there.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Express Rider on Sat Oct 25 20:12:58 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Oct 25 07:40:46 2014.

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No, orange does seem to be the correct color. To me, at times when I entered the station, it looked more like a bright orangey red, that's why I wrote red in the previous post.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 28 09:09:36 2014, in response to (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Oct 23 14:13:24 2014.

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Your title of mini-rehab is then incorrect and misleading. This hardly qualifies as a rehab.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by terRAPIN station on Tue Oct 28 09:12:40 2014, in response to Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 28 09:09:36 2014.

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Your title of mini-rehab is then incorrect and misleading. This hardly qualifies as a rehab.
WRONG. He correctly called it a "mini-rehab". That is a commonly used term to describe station work that only affects selected critical, functional, components.

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Re: (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by caine515 on Tue Oct 28 10:41:45 2014, in response to (They are not removing orange bricks) Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Oct 23 14:13:24 2014.

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The 7th av station on the B D and E need ceiling work faster then 49th street does.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Oct 28 13:00:13 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 24 11:14:18 2014.

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Speaking of the horrible 1970s tiles, we have City Hall. The trackside walls were recently stripped down to bare concrete and pretty nice BMT-ish tiles installed. There's also considerable rehab work going on at the entrances.

But it looks like the "bathroom" on some of the platform structures, like the back of the staircases and on the work rooms aren't going anyplace.

I'm still kind of hoping that's only 'cause they're being left for last...

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 28 13:44:05 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Oct 23 11:07:18 2014.

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It's ridiculous that midtown stations should undergo a second round of renovations while many outer borough stations have never undergone one.


Midtown stations which have yet to undergo renovation work since 1982, the first MTA Capital Program

50th Street/CE
57th Street/F
5th Ave/7


Midtown stations which had a second round of renovation since the first 1982 MTA Capital Program:

NONE


As usual, WAAR.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by italianstallion on Tue Oct 28 15:44:29 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 28 13:44:05 2014.

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57th, at least, is a pretty new station.

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Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 28 22:16:50 2014, in response to Re: Bid Results for 49th St (N)(Q)(R) station mini-rehab project, posted by Wakefield-241st Street on Tue Oct 28 13:44:05 2014.

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Who is talking about since 1982? Not me.

What about all the renovations of the 1970s on the Broadway and 4th Avenue BMT?
Both 5th Avenue/59 Street and Wall Street were redone twice since 1970. Remember the blue bricks at Wall Street? No station outside Manhattan was renovated twice.

So I am not wrong again.

Also, 57th on the F was built in 1967. So that means all but two midtown stations have been renovated, and one of them was renovated twice. Also the lower level of 59th and Lex which was built around 1962 was already renovated after only about 45 years.

Many stations In the outer boroughs have not seen renovations in 80 years. Thanks for proving my point.

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