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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Mr Railfan on Tue Aug 14 17:23:46 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. Track fire. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains (also affecting (F) train |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:42:24 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. For alternate service, some downtown F train service via the G from the Queens Plaza Station to the Jay Street- MetroTech Station. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:45:41 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. Due to a smoke condition at Dekalb Avenue:B train service is running between the Bedford Park Blvd Station to the 34 Street- Herald Square Station. No B train service in both directions from the 34 Street- Herald Square Station to the Brighton Beach Station. D train service is running between the Atlantic Avenue- Barclay Center to the Coney Island- Stillwell Avenue Station and the 34 Street- Herald Square Station to the Norwood- 205 Street Station. For alternate service, some downtown F train service via the G from the Queens Plaza Station to the Jay Street- MetroTech Station. Brooklyn bound N train service running from the 36 Street (BKLYN) Station to the Coney Island- Stillwell Avenue Station at this time. For service between the 36 Street (BKLYN) Station to Atlantic Avenue- Barclay Center Station please use the B63 Bus which will make corresponding stops. Q train service running from Coney Island- Stillwell Avenue Station to the Prospect Park Station in both directions. Brooklyn bound N, Q and R train service will terminate at the 57 Street- 7 Avenue Station, 34 Street- Herald Square Station, the Canal Street Station and the Whitehall- South Ferry Station. Please expect delays on the B , D, F, N, Q, and R train service at this time. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains (2 -Alarm fire) |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:47:49 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. BKLYN 2-ALARM FLATBUSH AVE, CABLES BURNING IN SUBWAY,---https://twitter.com/FDNY |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:58:43 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. MTA recommends: Customers heading to Brooklyn from Manhattan are urged to use 2, 3, 4, 5 trains to Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by chud1 on Tue Aug 14 18:06:43 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. this was on wabc channel 7 news here in nyc.chud1 |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains (2 -Alarm fire) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 14 18:11:07 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains (2 -Alarm fire), posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:47:49 2012. wow... |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 14 18:15:06 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:45:41 2012. betcha they are sorry they didnt build the Brighton/Culver Express AND the DEKALB/RUDGERS CONNECTOR TUNNELS NOW.. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Aug 14 18:16:30 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 14 18:15:06 2012. Dekalb/Rutgers may have been affected due to the heavy smoke.Brighton/Culver would have been easy. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by LA Scott on Tue Aug 14 18:21:07 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. I took the 2 home and it was super crowded.Atlantic was a complete overcrowded mess. There was very limited announcements and MTA personnel to explain things. It took me around 10 minutes to get out of the Pacific Street exit. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Aug 14 18:25:48 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. Ouch. Hopefully there are no trains involved and nobody trapped aboard in the area.wayne |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update] |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 18:46:52 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. Service Change Posted: 08/14/2012 6:29PMDue to a cable fire at the DeKalb Avenue Station, there are significant service changes and delays on several subway lines. There is no (B) service between the 34 St- Herald Square Station and the Brighton Beach Station, (B) service is operating between the 34 Street- Herald Square Station and the Bedford Park Blvd Station. There is no (D) service between the 34 Street- Herald Square Station and the Atlantic Avenue - Barclays Center Station. (D) service is operating in two sections between the 34 Street - Herald Square Station and the Norwood- 205 Street Station / and the Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue Station and the Atlantic Avenue - Barclays Center Station. Some Stillwell Avenue (F) service is operating via the (G) between the Queens Plaza Station and the Jay Street -MetroTech Station. There is no (N), (Q) or (R) service between Lower Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn. (N) service is operating between the Coney Island- Stillwell Avenue Station and the 36 Street (BKLYN) Station. (Q) service is operating between the Coney Island -Stillwell Ave Station and the Prospect Park Station. (R) service is operating between the 95 Street Station and the 36 Street (BKLYN) Station at this time. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update] |
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Posted by LA Scott on Tue Aug 14 18:48:56 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update], posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 18:46:52 2012. How is the F running via G between Queens Plaza Station and Jay? |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains... ABC-7 news report |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 18:51:50 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. Thats bad. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update] |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Aug 14 18:52:31 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update], posted by LA Scott on Tue Aug 14 18:48:56 2012. Just keeps going through QP - the track connection is still there - switches over s of QP.I wonder if the "R" is running between 71-CTL and Whitehall. They didn't mention it. wayne |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update] |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 18:55:19 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update], posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Aug 14 18:52:31 2012. Except the Jay St-MetroTech part which the G train does not stop there ... could have listed Bergen St unless they have a corrected map. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update] |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 18:57:12 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains {6:30pm update], posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Aug 14 18:52:31 2012. All downtown BMT Broadway trains are terminated at 57 St, 34 St, Canal St, and Whitehall St; Manhattan. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 14 19:23:42 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Aug 14 18:16:30 2012. Oh yeah..very easy. |
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Problems cleared.... (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) running delays |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 19:27:41 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. Delays Posted: 08/14/2012 7:22PMFollowing an earlier incident at DeKalb Av (B) (D) (F) (N) (Q) and (R) train service has resumed with residual delays. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 19:40:51 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. Service Change Posted: 08/14/2012 7:34PMFollowing an earlier incident at the DeKalb Avenue Station, (B) , (D) and (F) train service has resumed. Downtown (N) and (Q) train service via (R) from the Canal Street Station to the DeKalb Avenue Station at this time. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Aug 14 19:56:05 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:45:41 2012. Why should the F be affected at all? It goes nowhere near Dekalb and certainly doesn't interfere with turning B and D trains at 34/6. Also, why are Bs and Ds terminating at 34/6 instead of W4 St?. Additionally, if the supts really wanted to supply service, they could flex out the F service and send the Ds via the F line and up the West End through what we used to call the "back door." That way even though it might take a bit longer, passengers could remain on D trains and get to their destinations along the West End Line. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Aug 14 20:12:43 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by randyo on Tue Aug 14 19:56:05 2012. That would make too much sense.:( |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 14 20:16:37 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 19:40:51 2012. Thats problem with the Chrystie st/Manny B Cut..theres nothing you can do when a train lays down,or the line gets jacked...which is WHY there should have been a back up plan built[such as a Nassau st connector tunnel.. or the Brighton line Culver Express connector tunnels]Chrystie st didn't solve the problem it was intended to fix,namely the unclogging of the BMT Southern Division lines. |
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MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 20:48:41 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. Following a cable fire near the Dekalb Ave station that impacted late afternoon and early evening subway service, (B) and (D) service between Midtown Manhattan and Brooklyn has been restored with residual delays.Service has also been restored on the (N), (Q) and (R) between Lower Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn. The cause of the cable fire is still under investigation. While repairs are made, there may be residual delays in the vicinity of Dekalb Ave. Monitor Service Status for up to date service information. We apologize for the inconvenience. ---http://mta.info/ |
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Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Aug 14 20:51:51 2012, in response to MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 20:48:41 2012. I guess a lot of people took the "C" to Franklin Ave, the "S" to Prospect Park, and continued to CI via the Brighton Line, right? |
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Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Tue Aug 14 20:54:56 2012, in response to MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 20:48:41 2012. Yeah it was a bit sluggish coming into Atlantic Avenue. I was there around 7:40 heading up. |
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Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 20:58:59 2012, in response to Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Elkeeper on Tue Aug 14 20:51:51 2012. photos for proof: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120814/new-york-city/burning-cables-at-dekalb-ave-re-route-b-d-n-q-r-trains/slideshow/popup/229706 |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains... ABC-7 news report |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Aug 14 21:14:39 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains... ABC-7 news report, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 18:51:50 2012. They can never get it right. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains (also affecting (F) train |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Aug 14 21:43:03 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains (also affecting (F) train, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:42:24 2012. The G-line tracks don't go to Jay St. I guess they mean to Bergen St. |
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Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by error46146 on Tue Aug 14 23:23:01 2012, in response to Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 20:58:59 2012. Times like this when it'd be nice if they still kept the shuttle full-length lol |
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Re: Problems cleared.... (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) running delays |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Aug 14 23:26:29 2012, in response to Problems cleared.... (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) running delays, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 19:27:41 2012. 2-1/2 hour fuck up? |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by LA Scott on Tue Aug 14 23:33:44 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. I am impressed with how quickly the MTA got things moving again, and how rarely these major issues happen.As someone who relied on private automobiles for the vast majority of my mobility until 2 years ago, the random nature of car travel with unpredictable traffic and frequent accident caused delays was a near-constant source of stress. While hundreds of millions or billions could be spent on alternate connections and extra capacity, people in NYC should be thankful that we have a system that is so reliable and predictable. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Southern BMT on Wed Aug 15 00:56:04 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by randyo on Tue Aug 14 19:56:05 2012. Although not announced on the webpage, there were some (D)s that were sent through the Rutgers St tubes down the Culver (this is probably why some (F)s were sent via crosstown). From what I observed, these (D)s went OOS at 18 Av (and possibly other express stations along the Culver line) and took the express track to Avenue X yard. |
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Re: Problems cleared.... (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) running delays |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Aug 15 01:39:00 2012, in response to Re: Problems cleared.... (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) running delays, posted by italianstallion on Tue Aug 14 23:26:29 2012. Its about 3+ hour fuck up..."The fire broke out just before 4:30 p.m. on the tracks at Dekalb Avenue, drawing more than 100 firefighters to the station, the FDNY said. The fire was under control at 6:15 p.m., and no one was injured, the FDNY said. All trains resumed service by 7:30 p.m., but the MTA advised straphangers to expect delays into the evening." ---- http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120814/new-york-city/burning-cables-at-dekalb-ave-re-route-b-d-n-q-r-trains#ixzz23afEKAJM |
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Cable fire + trash is cause... (ABC-7) Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Aug 15 01:48:37 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. B, D, F, Q, N, R train service has been restored with delays between Manhattan to Brooklyn after an apparent cable fire in a subway tunnel north of the DeKalb Avenue train station in Downtown Brooklyn. The DeKalb Avenue station is a hub, which is why so many trains were affected. It was so hot, so smoky down there, that some firefighters were overcome by it, needed oxygen when they got out, and all of them needed to cool off after a fire ripped through the afternoon rush hour. t seemed like everyone was trying to get somewhere they couldn't. Every line that connects Brooklyn and Manhattan was affected, a couple of them closed down, so it was a mess during the busiest part of the day. The MTA had people outside the closed stations to give advice on rerouting, which didn't really make people any happier. Brooklyn bound commuters couldn't get out and Manhattan bound commuters couldn't get in. All the while, firefighters were battling a blaze that was so deep in the tunnel, they could barely see. Fire marshalls are investigating to determine if the fire was intentionally set. The commute for Wednesday morning should be back to normal. ---http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=resources/traffic&id=8773530 |
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(CBS-2) Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Aug 15 02:01:25 2012, in response to Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:04:05 2012. A fire that caused cables to burn in a small manhole space several hundred feet into a subway tunnel made for many commuter headaches on Tuesday afternoon.The blaze broke out around 4 p.m. in a signal and communication cable room not far from the Brooklyn side of the Manhattan Bridge and near the Dekalb Avenue station in Brooklyn, according to MTA spokesman Adam Lisburg. It sent smoke billowing through the tunnel. We had to shut down service on the B and D lines so that people wouldn’t be breathing that smoke going through there and so firefighters could get in and access it,” he told reporters, including 1010 WINS’ Sonia Rincon. There were numerous delays and service changes on the B, D, F, N Q and R lines between Manhattan and Brooklyn. Firefighters got to the fire on a light rail train, traveling 600 feet into the tunnel, where FDNY Brooklyn Borough Commander James Leonard said it was very hot and smoky. “We were able to ascertain where the fire was, we just were not sure exactly what was on fire,” Leonard said. It turned out to be cables in the manhole, but according to the MTA, no critical power cables were affected. Officials were able to work around the burned out space to get service restored not long after the fire was out. “We were able to both identify the source of the fire and figure out a way to work around all the equipment that was damaged,” Lisberg said. The fire was extinguished around 6:15 p.m. and service was mostly restored by 7:30 p.m. ---http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/14/firefighters-travel-deep-into-subway-tunnel-to-fight-blaze-in-cable-room/ |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Aug 15 15:04:37 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Edwards! on Tue Aug 14 19:23:42 2012. What routing would it have folowed? Second avenue to DeKalb? |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 15 18:42:15 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Aug 15 15:04:37 2012. If the Brighton to Culver connection had been built, it would have utilized the Fkln Shtl tracks N/O PPk to connect to a new tunnel to be built under Prospect Pk which would have connected to the Culver express tracks. That was at a time when serious consideration was being given to abandoning the Fkln Shtl entirely. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 15 18:44:54 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Southern BMT on Wed Aug 15 00:56:04 2012. That defeats the purpose of what I was saying. The Ds could have operated between 36/4 and 205 operating via the Culver to Stillwell and up the West End to 36 St and return the same way. |
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Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 15 18:50:07 2012, in response to Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by error46146 on Tue Aug 14 23:23:01 2012. I'v been saying that for years. If the Fkln Shtl had been rebuilt to accommodate 600 ft trains, the Q service could have operated between Stl and Fkln so that passengers could transfer from/to C trains there. |
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Re: (CBS-2) Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by jabrams on Wed Aug 15 23:27:05 2012, in response to (CBS-2) Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Wed Aug 15 02:01:25 2012. "Firefighters got to the fire on a light rail train". Did they borrow one from Hoboken? Seriously, if the power was turned off, what did the firefighters use to get to the fire? 600 feet is just one full size train length. Why was there no service on the IRT at Atlantic Ave? (as one womewn complained about?) |
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Re: (CBS-2) Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Aug 16 04:26:36 2012, in response to Re: (CBS-2) Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by jabrams on Wed Aug 15 23:27:05 2012. The IRT was normal. They probably kept power on that one track for the fire taxi to get in there, and then removed power. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 16 06:29:51 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Aug 14 17:45:41 2012. This is where I would shorten the (Q) to 4-5 cars (300' trains) and have such trains go to the Botanic Garden (S) station (Prospect Park-bound platform), terminating where people can go to/from the (2)/(3)/(4)/(5) to/from Manhattan. The regular (S) would be reduced to a single train operating from the Franklin Avenue-bound track at Botanic Garden to Franklin Avenue.I believe the Botanic Garden Station is at least 300' long and that's why I would do this in a situation like that. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 16 06:33:34 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by randyo on Wed Aug 15 18:44:54 2012. Absolutely:I would have used the "backdoor" way myself and for this purpose (and others) made Coney Island a through station instead of a terminal, possibly also extending some (F) trains to 9th Avenue via the West End.. |
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Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 16 06:41:04 2012, in response to Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by randyo on Wed Aug 15 18:50:07 2012. Actually, in Brooklyn I would have made the (Q) 300' trains and had it run from Coney Island-Botanic Garden (on the Prospect Park-bound platform with the trains longer if it can handle more than 300') while the regular (S) would be a single train between Prospect Park and Botanic Garden. That would allow people to use the 2/3/4/5 to Franklin Avenue and switch there for Coney Island. |
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Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Aug 16 10:13:52 2012, in response to Re: MTA says sorry! ... Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by randyo on Wed Aug 15 18:50:07 2012. Not to mention in about 15-20 years when it's time for the Hippos to be retired, what then? If MTA doesn't want to get any more 75 foot cars, what do they use? 2 60-foot cars is probably not enough capacity, and 4 60-footers won't fit (maybe platform lengthening to 250 feet?)Really stupid idea on the part of hte planners. Or maybe they thought the Frankie will just shut down along w/ the Hippos. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Aug 16 10:39:37 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Southern BMT on Wed Aug 15 00:56:04 2012. From what I understand, that is exactly what happened. Some B/D's were sent via the F line. That's the reason for some F's via the G line. West 4th and Jay St was doing extra work along with Dekalb, City Hall, Murphy, and Stillwell Towers....... |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 16 14:00:34 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Aug 16 06:33:34 2012. Maybe some of the K/Hwy F layups could have been used for that service. |
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Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Aug 16 14:02:11 2012, in response to Re: Major problems at Dekalb Av - (B) (D) (N) (Q) (R) trains, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Thu Aug 16 10:39:37 2012. It really shouldn't have made much difference since S/O Bergen the G ad F line merge anyhow so you would still have congestion. |
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