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LIRR and Metro North service improvements : "2012–2013 Service Investments"

Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012

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Dear Customers

Since arriving at the MTA last November, I have been focused on two objectives – containing costs and finding ways to maintain, improve and expand services that you, our customers, rely on every day to get to work, school and points in between.

I am pleased to say that as a result of our efforts, we are announcing $29 million in service investments. Some of these investments will restore services that were reduced or eliminated as part of the MTA’s 2009-2010 budget-balancing cuts. Other investments – because the travel patterns of the region are constantly evolving – will fund services that respond to the need for transit services in growing and changing neighborhoods.

These service investments are the result of careful analysis, meeting our goal of serving all neighborhoods and areas with the best and most frequent bus, subway or commuter rail service possible under our current financial conditions. The funding for these service investments is the result of both aggressive efforts to reduce and control costs and also revenues from growing ridership. It is our priority to ensure that both of these efforts continue.

The service investments on the pages that follow are proposed for Long Island Rail Road, Metro-North Railroad and NYC Transit Bus and Subway. All of these proposals will be discussed with the MTA Board during the next few weeks and implementation of the service investments will be phased in over the course of a year beginning this coming October.

You have my assurance that we are committed to the strongest, most efficiently operated transportation system we can provide to the region and promise you that we will make every effort to continue to make the kind of progress that makes these improvements possible.

Joseph J. Lhota
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer



---http://www.mta.info/mta/2012_13_investment.html


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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 19 16:15:24 2012, in response to LIRR and Metro North service improvements : "2012–2013 Service Investments", posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012.

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This half-hourly stuff to Farmingdale is new. I wonder if the weekend trains are being done at the expense of any Huntington half-hour trains ?

Still no winter, weekend service to Greenport. That leaves transit-dependent people completely stranded with nothing for many miles, except Hampton Jitney.



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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}

Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 16:41:31 2012, in response to LIRR and Metro North service improvements : "2012–2013 Service Investments", posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012.

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---http://www.scribd.com/doc/100540941/Service-Investment-Summary-FINAL

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 19 19:34:18 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 19 16:15:24 2012.

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This half-hourly stuff to Farmingdale is new.

Yes this is new. There's a siding track just east of the station to facilitate this. This should be interesting.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by R40SlantontheB on Thu Jul 19 20:42:22 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Thu Jul 19 16:15:24 2012.

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Yeah we're still waiting for improved service on the Greenport line. Half hourly PW service isnt being restored for the weekends either. Seems Metro-North is getting the lions share of improvements, as usual.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Q11-Woodhaven on Thu Jul 19 20:45:47 2012, in response to LIRR and Metro North service improvements : "2012–2013 Service Investments", posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012.

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The restoration of late nite service on service between Atlantic Term and Jamaica was going to be necessary with the Barclays Center in operation.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 20:58:13 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Q11-Woodhaven on Thu Jul 19 20:45:47 2012.

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It would be better if MTA restore it when the arena is open for business very soon.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}

Posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 19 23:01:19 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}, posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 16:41:31 2012.

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And yet, the only subway improvement was making the G extension to Church permanent. Go figure...

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 20 16:37:24 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}, posted by #5 - Dyre Ave on Thu Jul 19 23:01:19 2012.

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Do they have the equipment to do anything else during rush hours ?

An M train extension on weekends would be nice, but since it would have to run minimally to Queens Plaza, that would be expensive, and they would lose all OPTO for the Myrtle Avenue line itself.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 20 17:33:40 2012, in response to LIRR and Metro North service improvements : "2012–2013 Service Investments", posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012.

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That Port Jefferson service improvement should also include restoring the 4:05 PM train from Port Jefferson as an express to Jamaica, instead of the current shuttle to Huntington. This was necessitated because they needed a shuttle to cover for this particular peak train from HP after it was eliminated. I've had considerable experience with this train, and when Stony Brook is open, it's a packed train. Turning it into a transfer at Huntington was a disaster.

I also note no restoration of half hourly service on the Port Washington branch. This will not sit well with many.

I like the idea of having all Poughkeepsie trains running fully express south of Croton, instead of having them provide service to Ossining, Tarrytown and Yonkers, as most do off peak.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 20 17:42:06 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jul 19 19:34:18 2012.

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Farmingdale is often used to turn trains during rush hour. I am guessing these new trains will cover Bethpage - New Hyde Park customers while Huntington and Ronkonkoma trains skip them (except for Mineola and Hicksville, perhaps). The current service really sucks for Port Jefferson riders on weekends, as they are forced to make a transfer AND ride on locals which are probably SRO before reaching Mineola.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Jul 20 18:10:59 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 20 17:33:40 2012.

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Sounds like a service cut to Ossining, Tarrytown and Yonkers.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 20 18:33:01 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by italianstallion on Fri Jul 20 18:10:59 2012.

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No, these stations will be covered by separate trains, terminating at Croton-Harmon. This is done a lot on weekends.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Jul 20 19:08:17 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 20 18:33:01 2012.

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Will these be new trains?

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 20 19:52:56 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 20 17:33:40 2012.

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I think they looked at the loads on the hourly Ronkonkoma trains and the hourly Port Wash trains, and pocked the former. They are adding 3 trains each way. I'd have made it 2 + 1.

West Hempstead and the Greenport Scoot got passed over again. I don't think they have heard the last of it from the North Fork assembly persons.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 20 19:54:58 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jul 20 17:42:06 2012.

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No. The new trains will stop only at Bethpage, Hicksville, Mineoola.
The Babylon weekend High-Wheelers don't come back either. The South Shore Scoots still make do with a Babylon local or semi-express.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 20 20:33:37 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}, posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 20 16:37:24 2012.

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An M train extension on weekends would be nice, but since it would have to run minimally to Queens Plaza, that would be expensive, and they would lose all OPTO for the Myrtle Avenue line itself.

I think this (and a weekend B) would be quite useful if they ran at 20 minute headways on weekends. The M could alternate an opto shuttle with a full length train for the Myrtle Ave portion like they do briefly in the early mornings.

While countdown clocks would be ideal, a simple printed schedule at each station would be enough to alert users of the service. If bus riders can figure out 20 minute frequencies (or greater!) I don't see why subway riders cant.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by R40SlantontheB on Fri Jul 20 21:17:51 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 20 19:54:58 2012.

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I think ridership will be light on the new trains. Why does Westbury keep getting passed over? Now at those times only 1 of 3 trains will stop at Westbury. Westbury is a fairly busy station, which baffles me as to why so many trains skip it.
I wonder if they will have a hearing over these "improvements" or not. I have alot to say about it.


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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Train2104 on Sat Jul 21 10:42:54 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by R40SlantontheB on Fri Jul 20 21:17:51 2012.

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Only the G extension and the brand new bus routes require hearings.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Mtk52983 on Sat Jul 21 11:32:04 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by R40SlantontheB on Fri Jul 20 21:17:51 2012.

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Westbury may be convenient for you but as far as actual passengers between New Hyde Park and Hicksville it does not justify added service. Forcing more trains to stop there will slow down through trains that actually stop at the more crowded stations

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 21 13:16:26 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by R40SlantontheB on Fri Jul 20 21:17:51 2012.

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That's incredibly stupid. Port Jefferson riders should not be forced to both transfer in Huntington AND have to use local trains.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 21 13:24:26 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by italianstallion on Fri Jul 20 19:08:17 2012.

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Yes. Instead of running hourly off-peal local service on the electrified portion and having the diesels serve the lower Hudson stations that receive 2 trains per hour (Ossining, Tarrytown, Yonkers and sometimes Marble Hill) all the diesels will run non-stop to Croton-Harmon and electric trains will cover these additional stops. The other two Metro North lines do not have such an off-peak arrangement, there's a strict segregation of local service with express.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 21 14:10:35 2012, in response to LIRR and Metro North service improvements : "2012–2013 Service Investments", posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012.

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All these changes and they still have yet to modify one thing that should not cost them any extra money. Why do you have an Off Peak Atlantic Terminal to Hempstead train connect with a Penn Station to Huntington local train at Jamaica (see 9:42 PM on weekdays from both stations)? For many along the Hempstead line the Huntington local is a nice fallback if you miss the Hempstead train (as New Hyde Park, Merillon Avenue, and Mineola are reasonably close or a short bus ride for many Hempstead branch riders going between Stewart Manor and Hempstead). The Atlantic Terminal train should be retimed to connect with the 9:28 Penn Station to Babylon express


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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by italianstallion on Sat Jul 21 15:42:45 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 21 13:24:26 2012.

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Gotcha, thanks.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 21 17:49:41 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 20 20:33:37 2012.

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I'm not sure about the utility of an every-20-min. M train. I can see people from Myrtle Ave to Essex just taking the J instead of waiting for the M. Same goes for the Queens Blvd portion and the R.

If we can't have full M service on the weekends, why not run the M shuttle to Essex? That way, it removes a transfer and provides additional service along Bway.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}

Posted by Joe V on Sat Jul 21 19:54:56 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 21 17:49:41 2012.

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M Shuttle to Essex could still not be OPTO - it's over 5 stations.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Jul 21 20:38:35 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'' {reasons why}, posted by 3-9 on Sat Jul 21 17:49:41 2012.

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I can see people from Myrtle Ave to Essex just taking the J instead of waiting for the M.

Sure, the ones who don't know the schedule. The ones who do (since it should be predictable/posted) will plan around it. The line seems to be pretty good about keeping its time so that shouldn't be too much of an issue.

As for Queens Blvd... people won't wait specifically for an M but whenever one does show up, the R (Manhattan bound) and the F (Queens Bound) will get some much needed relief. It will also help provide some redundancy. When the R is jacked up (which is often), having an M reliably coming every 20 minutes will prevent the need to screw up an E or F by sending it local.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Sat Jul 21 21:07:45 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Fri Jul 20 19:52:56 2012.

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I seems that they (MTA) are determined to abandon the Greenport service one way or another. Its the oldest trick in the book, make the service so lousy that no one uses it & then the MTA petitions for abandonment a/c lousy ridership. The north fork folks should scream for better service.
Aside from the present needs, urban sprawl will dictate the need for better rail service on the north fork in the future as the commuter zone expands. The MTA should look 10-20 yrs down the road when it comes to service east of Ronkonkoma.
Hampton Jitney is nice, but trains usually don't get stuck in traffic.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by R40SlantontheB on Sat Jul 21 22:11:09 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 21 13:16:26 2012.

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Well actually I would have only the Farmingdale and Huntington trains that dont connect with PJ stop at Westbury. All Port Jeff trains should connect with an express that stops only at Hicksville and Mineola on the main line. Farmingdale and Huntington trains make all stops to NHP.
The idea here is that those Farmingdale trains should be the locals, while the Ronkonkoma and Port Jeff connecting trains run express, since they are coming from further east.


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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by R40SlantontheB on Sat Jul 21 22:19:05 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Fisk ave Jim on Sat Jul 21 21:07:45 2012.

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Maybe it's time Suffolk County take ownership of the railroad east of Ronkonkoma since the MTA doesn't seem to give a damn. They could have Veolia operate it..(lol)
I took that Greenport train today and it was packed, so packed people were standing in the single car that is open.
The MTA needs to get their head out of their ass and see the increasing ridership on the Greenport line. The North Fork is becoming more "Hampton-ized" and popular with tourists, and the MTA pretty much tells them to get robbed by the Jitney instead of actually trying to make the service appealing. The single car setup is becoming a huge problem now since they are now full and the 2nd car doesn't platform. The platforms need to be extended at Riverhead thru Southhold (I think Greenport can fit more than 1).
And since the tracks go right by Tanger, a stop there should be added!


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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Train2104 on Sat Jul 21 22:49:29 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by R40SlantontheB on Sat Jul 21 22:19:05 2012.

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If I remember one car and the leading door of the second car can open at the stations east of KO.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 13:34:41 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by R40SlantontheB on Sat Jul 21 22:11:09 2012.

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There are only going to be 3 Farmingdale trains: 3 in the last morning, 3 back in the late afternoon on weekends. They actually could have filled their void by the several south shore thru diesels, which all take the main line, and actually could serve some intra-island needs.

That said, I would make the new Farmingdales all-stop locals, and relieve the Huntingtons in those periods of all stops except Mineola and Hicksville, (Westbury I could be talked into).

But the LIRR Service Planners these days just likes to keep screwing the Port Jefferson Branch. What North Shore legislator do they not like ? While there are no Babylon High-Wheelers on weekends anymore, there are a few thru diesel trains in their place.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 13:43:01 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by mtk52983 on Sat Jul 21 14:10:35 2012.

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Would the prior inbound Far Rockaway train be in the terminal in time to be advance the Hempstead departure by 14 minutes ?

I do not like the schedule pattern either, don't have a solution, especially the part about all Atlantic Terminal departures leave and arrive at the same minute twice per hour. 50% of the time, one train or the other is delayed by crossing over, and the speed limit in and out of the terminal is 10MPH.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Jul 22 14:03:00 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 13:43:01 2012.

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The previous Far Rockaway gets in at 9:22 so it only needs slight retiming

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 14:06:57 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Jul 22 14:03:00 2012.

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You see, on the LIRR, service planning is hell. Easy for us to complain, but re-patterning invites all sorts of issues.

In the case, (un)even intervals between Long Beach and Far Rockaway trains at Valley Stream, main line conflicts of westbound Hempstead trains crossing at Queens, dovetailing at Jamaica.


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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Train2104 on Sun Jul 22 14:08:12 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 13:43:01 2012.

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5MPH, not 10MPH.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Train2104 on Sun Jul 22 14:09:33 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 14:06:57 2012.

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That's why, as far as I can tell, the rush hour hasn't been rewritten from scratch since Ronkonkoma was electrified. (correct me if I'm wrong)

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 15:22:52 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Train2104 on Sun Jul 22 14:09:33 2012.

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Off-peak was a mess in the mid or late '90s. Until then, there was no clock pattern and were a colossal mess from 1976. Post PM rush weekdays and overnite still is.


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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 15:23:25 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Train2104 on Sun Jul 22 14:08:12 2012.

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So even worse than I thought.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 22 15:59:42 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 15:23:25 2012.

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it has to be,due to that crazy interlocking at the terminal lip..dead end tracks at bumper blocks in the station..tight clearances.

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Re: A change in service on the LIRR PW branch?

Posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 22 16:14:54 2012, in response to LIRR and Metro North service improvements : "2012–2013 Service Investments", posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012.

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I was doing things around my place here in Bayside, Queens when I noticed today that the trains on the LIRR PW are now running every half-hour and not every hour. I looked at the schedule online and I don't see any changes posted. Anyone know why they restored service without informing the public?

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Jul 22 16:21:01 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 14:06:57 2012.

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I looked online and theoretically there should not be a problem at any transfer point having the Far Rockaway train connect at Jamaica with the train one earlier as that is a Huntington to Penn Station train. The only potential issue is that it would mean about a 40 minute gap to Atlantic Terminal versus a 30 minute gap

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Re: A change in service on the LIRR PW branch?

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 16:22:26 2012, in response to Re: A change in service on the LIRR PW branch?, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 22 16:14:54 2012.

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You mean mid-day weekdays ? It's as of last May.

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Re: A change in service on the LIRR PW branch?

Posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 22 16:25:52 2012, in response to Re: A change in service on the LIRR PW branch?, posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 16:22:26 2012.

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I meant to say......weekend service.....which was cut during the budget cuts.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 16:36:57 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Jul 22 16:21:01 2012.

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So you want:
eastbound Hempsteads to depart Atlantic Terminal at xx:28
westbound Far Rockaways to depart at xx:38

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Re: A change in service on the LIRR PW branch?

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 16:40:53 2012, in response to Re: A change in service on the LIRR PW branch?, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Jul 22 16:25:52 2012.

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See the Branch time table for "Mets Willets Point 2012 Met Home Games"

There are also scenarios for Day Games and Night Games with some half-hourly trains.

There are are also a lot of footnotes that make it very complicated.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Jul 22 16:44:07 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 16:36:57 2012.

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It does not need to be exact as long as it is generally close to each other. If you look at the schedule Hempstead train's connection from Penn currently leave 8:30, 9:42, 10:28. Moving these two trains would even that out a bit and not have the Hempstead/Huntington transfer at JamIca

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Bzuck on Sun Jul 22 16:46:05 2012, in response to LIRR and Metro North service improvements : "2012–2013 Service Investments", posted by Gold_12TH on Thu Jul 19 15:54:36 2012.

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On the Hudson line am I reading this correctly? If I am there will be four trains an hour between Croton and GCT. One all stop local, one Poughkeepsie, and two semi expresses.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 16:46:06 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Train2104 on Sat Jul 21 22:49:29 2012.

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I am sure people can move to the cab car if they want. It also has the bathroom. Odds are, the trailer car does not. I have seen the conductor key open the door on the "extra" car.

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Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments''

Posted by Joe V on Sun Jul 22 16:49:46 2012, in response to Re: LIRR and Metro North service improvements : ''2012–2013 Service Investments'', posted by Mtk52983 on Sun Jul 22 16:44:07 2012.

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OK, I though you were talking about weekends. This is weekday late evenings.

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