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Re: Rockaway Line/Super Express/Manhattan

Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Mar 11 15:04:12 2008, in response to Re: Rockaway Line/Super Express/Manhattan, posted by Edwards! on Tue Mar 11 11:06:10 2008.

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In this case:

While the 63rd street tunnel is important, unless you re-route another existing line through that tunnel it probably is going to have a difficult time ever getting to full capacity.

If you can put a Super Express in the 63rd Street tunnel, that would be great, however, my thinking is, that cuts down on the amount of service you can do from the Rockaways if that becomes the Super Express.

That's why, provided monies can be found for a new tunnel into Manhattan I like the idea now of having the super express go to and from the Rockaways, perhaps stop on a new lower level of the current Roosevelt Avenue (or if possible, the never-previously-used but built upper level station) so those from the 7 can transfer to it, then have it make at the most one more stop in Queens (in an area not currently served) before then stopping on Roosevelt Island in a new station on the north part and then in Manhattan at 79th street and York-1st Avenues.

A 79th Street/York-1st Avenue station, even with the SAS I think would be very heavily used in addition to both the 72nd and 86th street staions on the SAS, since this stop would mean not nearly as long a walk for those who live east of 2nd avenue between those two stations, also indirectly helping to reduce the overcrowding problems on the 6 at that point, with such trains then stopping on a lower level of 72nd/2nd and then splitting up to join the SAS or the Q train to Broadway on a pretty much alternating basis (assuming by that time the SAS is complete). The area in Manhattan noted is one of the most densely populated areas in all of New York, which is also why I would make a 79th/York-1st Avenue station a three-track, two island platform station that would also allow for some service in rush hours to begin/end there.

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