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Re: SAS Phases 1/2, Court Street cut to Fulton Street line and Queens-Rockaway Super Express

Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Mar 17 01:35:31 2008, in response to Re: SAS in East Village, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Mar 16 18:52:16 2008.

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That is true, however:

Even if the N was moved to 96th/2nd and the W became the full-time Astoria service, it would only be for a few years until the line is eventally extended to first Houston Street and then Hanover Square, with the T coming on board at that point. That, however would be sufficient to clear up some of the mess on Broadway with the N by not having it come in on/out on the local tracks and have to merge, which would make service more sufficient on the Broadway line.

The N I could see eventually, however, becoming one half of the Rockaway Line/Queens Super Express that I would do as previously mentioned, having it stop on a lower level of Roosevelt Avenue before then going basically on a straight line through a new tunnel that would wind up on 79th street in Manhattan and make a new stop there at York-1st Avenues, then go to a lower level stop at 72nd/2nd under the planned SAS station and from there split into two, with the N going with the Q to 63rd/Lex and then on its existing route while the other half (which I will for now designate as the K train) joining the T to make up the SAS. As said before, given the exteremly high density of the area between 72nd and 86th streets, especially east of second avenue, I suspect even with entrances to the SAS at 72nd and 83rd streets a station at 79th and York-1st Avenues would be among the most heavily used non-CBD stations in the entire system, which is why I would make such a station three tracks and two island platforms to allow for some trains on both the SAS and Broadway lines to short-turn at 79th/York-1st during rush hour if more trains than the 24tph I would anticipate such a new tunnel using are needed).

As for the W, I do like the idea of it becoming the full-time Astoria service (at the current TPH of the N/W combo there), with if it can be the done there being a cut from the Broadway line once in Brooklyn at Court Street that can have the W join the C on the Fulton Street line as a local train, with the C becoming the main service to Lefferts while the A goes to Far Rockaway at all times and the W terminates at Euclid Avenue (but during the overnights is extended to Lefferts while the A becomes a full-time 24/7 express).

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