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Re: Rockaway Line/Super Express/Manhattan SAS

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Mar 12 06:28:11 2008, in response to Re: Rockaway Line/Super Express/Manhattan, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Mar 11 15:47:31 2008.

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Good point, but:

I think a Rockaway line that would also be a super express would work best (especially given the limitations of the current express tracks on Queens Blvd.) if it didn't have to deal with the 63rd street tunnel and instead go to a new tunnel leading into 79th street in Manhattan that would also allow for what I think even with the SAS would be a very heavily used station at 79th and York-1st Avenues that would then have a stop on a lower level at 72nd/2nd before breaking into two branches as noted (one with the Q to 63rd/Lex and then Broadway, the other with the T on the SAS to Hanover Square). It might be a cumbersome route, but I also think it's one that would pay for itself and more justify having the Rockaway Line/Queens Super Express since such a line would also provide upper east side riders with a 1-2 seat ride to JFK (or at least Howard Beach and the AirTrain).

This is not to say your idea of spacing the SAS stations is a bad idea, as in fact, I would have restructured the stations to include one at 79th street and 2nd avenue by going as follows:

72nd street with exits at 69th-72nd (no change)
79th street with exits at 78th, 79th and 81st
86th street with exits at 86th and 89th
96th street with exits at 95th, 96th and 98th

That to me would make more sense, and is something I would consider while doing the SAS to include an additional stop at 79th/2nd.

As for below 72nd, I would redo the stations there so the stops are at 50th-53rd and 57th-60th streets, the latter including a transfer at 60th to the 4/5/6/N/R/W. That to me would work as well.

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