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Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 12:06:03 2012, in response to West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 3 18:12:03 2012. The two stabbings happened right on Utica Ave. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 12:21:09 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 11:44:17 2012. You are also salivating at the prospect of "civil unrest" or "riots" if Obama loses the election. Then you'll bleat about the "animal savages" of the "element". THIW. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 12:33:42 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 12:21:09 2012. It's a very realistic and scary possibility if he loses. Nothing wrong with facing reality. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 12:38:12 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 12:21:09 2012. Changing the subject?I never wanted violence at WIDP. In the end there was and your are so humiliated. "Animal savages" come in all colors. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 12:38:58 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 12:33:42 2012. Only you would say this is "reality". |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 12:55:39 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 12:38:58 2012. It's very possible. If the election looks like it will be close you'll see some PD's preparing for violence.Why does that bother you? btw- You look stupid starting a thread about me and WIDP. Desperate. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 13:02:58 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Sep 4 11:54:37 2012. So you are saying that all the extra drunks on the LIRR after the St Patrick's parade aren't caused by the St Patrick Day parade, just because there are drunks other times too? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 13:03:45 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 12:21:09 2012. Unfortunately it's a scary reality in some areas if such happens. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 13:07:07 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 13:02:58 2012. Right. Whenever there are arrests on LIRR or viral YT vids of fights, long after the parade, miles away, it's still associated with the real St. Patrick's Day Parade on Fifth Ave(not the fake one in Queens). |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 4 13:08:33 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Sep 3 18:13:44 2012. 
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 15:23:18 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 07:30:26 2012. OK.I'll replace Train Dude with rseabeachline (or whatever his name is) on that list of fucking assholes. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 15:28:52 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 09:20:46 2012. I wasn't looking to insult you with the comparison - actually. He always reaches for extreme comparisons which I thought that yours was. But my point was that in virtually all cases, its the small number who splash mud on the majority. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 15:39:28 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 15:28:52 2012. I agree, and don't know what the solution is to this particular event and subsequent crimes. As has been pointed out, other parades don't suffer from this kind of violence and the only solution that's fair to all is to cancel the parade. Additional police could possibly deter violence but how many additional and who pays for that kind of expense simply because some people can't obey the law?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 15:40:50 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 09:53:08 2012. So if a DWI incident resulting in death occurs hours and miles away from 5th Avenue, you are gonna blame the St Patrick's Day parade? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 15:42:58 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 15:40:50 2012. If the participant was St Patrick's reveler, sure, why not? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 15:48:28 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 15:42:58 2012. and you have determined that such a person wasn't gonna get drunk and drive that night anyway?'that such a person doesn't have an excuse to drink and drive drunk several times a week whether it's after watching a football game at the bar or going to a party or going to a parade? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 15:58:27 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by cortelyounext on Mon Sep 3 18:59:41 2012. HOMECOMING!!!all together now!! GO! ORANGE!! GO BIG BLUE!!! FIGHT!! (woooo!) FIGHT (whooo!) B-S-U!!!!! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 16:03:28 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 10:32:26 2012. You have belittled the Pride Parade many times here. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 16:33:21 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 15:48:28 2012. LOL!!!! So you think the parade participants that stabbed other parade participants were going to find and stab said parade participants anyway. LOL. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 16:36:59 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 16:03:28 2012. What does this have to do with Dan's completely irrelevant response?And my only critiscm of the gay parade was that much of the participants are just about naked, just reinforcing a negative stereotype people have about gays. Some of the gay people I know don't even like the parade for that very reason, it promotes a negative stereotype. This said, JayZee has criticized the West Indian parade in the past. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:01:21 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Railman718 on Tue Sep 4 09:42:28 2012. when did I wish violence at WIDP or any parade? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:02:28 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 07:30:26 2012. I never wished violence at any parade, nor did I start a thread about violence at WIDP. JayZeeBMT is trolling for some reason. And there ended up being violence anyway. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:05:19 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 15:40:50 2012. If the person was drinking heavily because of St. Patrick's Day, I'd blame the holiday, even if the person was not at the parade. If the person was going home after attending the parade, it looks bad for the parade. |
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Do Gays March In WIDP?(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:08:29 2012, in response to West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Sep 3 18:12:03 2012. Are they allowed to march in this parade, the same way you say they should be allowed in the St. Patrick's Day Parade on Fifth Ave. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Sep 4 17:10:22 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 16:36:59 2012. Frankly, all parades should be banned in NYC. They are all disruptive and boring. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 17:11:25 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by SMAZ on Tue Sep 4 15:40:50 2012. I'd blame the guy who overdrank. Just like you can't blame the bar, you can't blame an event for DWI.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:12:06 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by italianstallion on Tue Sep 4 17:10:22 2012. Very true. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:13:27 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 17:11:25 2012. no. but the result of St. Patrick's Day is it encourages people to drink. People end up hurt or dead because of it. It's not even an ethnic holiday anymore. It's national alcohol day. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Sep 4 17:17:17 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by italianstallion on Tue Sep 4 17:10:22 2012. Frankly, all parades should be banned in NYC. They are all disruptive and boring.The West Indian Day parade is anything but boring. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:18:45 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 15:39:28 2012. One solution might be to increase stop and frisk around the parade.Then people will be upset. The same people who say they want a peaceful parade will be the ones all angry if police cracked down. So the violence will continue. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 17:27:06 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:13:27 2012. Most holidays are drinking holidays, including events like the Super Bowl, Cinco de Mayo, St Patty's, whatever. It's up to the individual to watch his intake and if he doesn't, take personal responsibility for his foulup in earning a DWI. It's not everyone else's fault.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:31:27 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 17:27:06 2012. Super Bowl is a drinking holiday for sure. That's why I agree with the decision NJ made to crack down when the Giants were in the Super Bowl.But how would the community react if NYPD increased tactics to prevent shootings at WIDP? They would be angry. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 17:32:14 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:18:45 2012. I won't argue the point since I really don't have an idea to fix it that I can go to the wall with.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 4 17:50:43 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 17:32:14 2012. Do the whole Times Square thing. Pen them in early, hose them down and release the hounds ... :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 17:54:26 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:02:28 2012. The problem is he posted his troll post too early, and then had to come up with excuses for the violence that happened after the parade. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 17:55:15 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by italianstallion on Tue Sep 4 17:10:22 2012. Okay, that's your opinion, but what does that have to do with my post? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 18:02:58 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 17:54:26 2012. my problem is that he is implying that I wanted violence at this parade. JayZeeBMT is the kind of that will start an inflammatory thread making crazy accusations, but has threatened to sue OBS and TS for comments made here.I wonder if gays can march in this parade the same way they want to march in St. Patrick's Day? |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 18:04:59 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 17:31:27 2012. I think this bunch has earned stop n frisk if they want to hold parades and parties any more. There's cause here.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 4 18:05:10 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 00:58:13 2012. You might be coorect SOMEWHAT..The young man that was that was stabbed was several feet from my van on St Johns..was jumped by gang members over a stupid reason..an argument that happened earlier in the day. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 18:13:33 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 4 18:05:10 2012. And let's see if the NY media shows the victims.Some kid from St. Francis Prep sticks his head out the roof of a bus and dies and every single news station in NYC covers the story. If there was a shooting at St. Patrick's Day Parade(among participants), I'll bet the media would focus on who the victims were and who did the shooting. But because it happened at WIDP the story gets a quick mention. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 18:13:33 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Edwards! on Tue Sep 4 18:05:10 2012. And let's see if the NY media shows the victims.Some kid from St. Francis Prep sticks his head out the roof of a bus and dies and every single news station in NYC covers the story. If there was a shooting at St. Patrick's Day Parade(among participants), I'll bet the media would focus on who the victims were and who did the shooting. But because it happened at WIDP the story gets a quick mention. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 18:22:22 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 17:11:25 2012. This is true, but the element it attracts is one of those who drink.....just like the West Indian parade attracts those that like to partake in violence. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 18:23:40 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 17:27:06 2012. True, the difference being the St Patricks parade is a gathering point for such activity. The other events don't have parades coinciding. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 18:25:21 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 18:02:58 2012. I don't know if they even want to. The only reason they want to run in the St Patricks parade is because it's run by a religious organization that frowns on them. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 18:34:32 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 18:25:21 2012. I'd like to know if gays are making noise to march in St. Patrick's but not in WIDP. That would be interesting. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 18:53:13 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 18:23:40 2012. I'm not saying people shouldn't drink but just not to get behind the wheel of a car after doing so. There's transit to get home. I've been to several St Patty's Day parades and it was Penn Central and later MN to get back and forth. Yes we drank :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 18:54:01 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Sep 4 18:34:32 2012. They'd probably get shot.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 4 19:07:25 2012, in response to Re: Update(Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests), posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 18:54:01 2012. Heh. All jokes aside, minorities are often WAY less accepting in general, of gays that whites are. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 19:12:24 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Sep 4 03:27:38 2012. So then you are saying that the drunken hooliganism that takes place on the subways, metro-north and the LIRR after the St. Patrick's Day Parade actually has nothing to do with the parade? Interesting! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Sep 4 19:15:15 2012, in response to Re: West Indian Day Parade Ends With NO Violence Or Arrests, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 4 18:04:59 2012. At the very least BUT you can't stop and frisk 1,000,000 spectators. |
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