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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:39:39 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 16 08:25:40 2015.

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I "hate" ignorance, repression and stupidity

Look in the mirror.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 16 10:40:40 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 16 10:25:03 2015.

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I won a foosball tournament at the Salesians when I was 12.

They gave me this ribbon with an image of the Virgin Mary on it.

I wonder what happened to that thing?

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:40:41 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 16 09:53:46 2015.

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Subchat is not a contest.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 16 10:41:49 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 16 10:37:22 2015.

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He's thinking of Brazilian mares.

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 16 10:42:25 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:31:07 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They gotta get money to pay your lazy ass somehow.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:45:30 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 16 10:37:22 2015.

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I don't know. Why don't you ask the horse of course.

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:47:01 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 16 10:42:25 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
My pension does not come from Cook County. Nice try though.

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 16 10:50:26 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:39:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Perhaps you're the one that should.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 16 10:51:56 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:40:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It is now. Didn't get the memo? Ask Luch if he can send another copy.

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:53:14 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 16 10:50:26 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
To see how handsome I am. Sure.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 16 10:57:49 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:34:34 2015.

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I think bingbong means Breitbart

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Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 16 10:59:46 2015, in response to Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 15 20:35:43 2015.

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Racist.

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Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 16 11:00:53 2015, in response to ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 15 20:31:44 2015.

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Racist.

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Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 11:11:51 2015, in response to Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:20:29 2015.

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I wouldn’t, because I might want my own worst enemy to actually suffer. That’s what worst enemies are for.

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 11:13:08 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:47:01 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Cook County is an agency of the State of Illinois.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Jul 16 11:15:25 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 16 10:57:49 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's probably her tablet, again. She probably typed it correctly but the tablet "auto corrected" it. Bing Bong is never wrong.

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Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jul 16 11:25:06 2015, in response to Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:18:39 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, thats not true.



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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 16 11:32:23 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 10:53:14 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Doubtful.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 16 11:34:34 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Jul 16 11:15:25 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Between her tablet and chicagomotorman's defective cell phone that leads to duplicate posts we have the most out of control gadgets

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Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 16 11:35:28 2015, in response to Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by italianstallion on Thu Jul 16 11:25:06 2015.

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Really?

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 16 11:36:23 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jul 16 11:34:34 2015.

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Lol

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Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 16 11:38:51 2015, in response to Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 11:11:51 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Perhaps. Well.I wouldn't wish it on you.

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Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jul 16 11:43:24 2015, in response to Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 16 11:35:28 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What I said earlier:

"Did I say "yeah, I know and I don't care"? NO. What I meant, and maybe it was not clearly stated, is that "No, I don't know and don't care." I can see why you misunderstood.

If I had known, I wouldn't have said I don't care. "


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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:18:40 2015, in response to Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by italianstallion on Thu Jul 16 11:43:24 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK, here's the story. A true story.

In 1982 I was 22 years old, and I got my then girlfriend pregnant. This was just a couple of years before I started with CTA. I was just making just barely over minimum wage. My girlfriend did not want the baby, while I did. At that time my personal feelings toward abortion was indifferent. We broke up shortly after the abortion, and my attitude at the time was that I was young, and I'll have more opportunities. Well here I am at 55 still with no children. I often feel that G-d has punished me for not doing more to stop it. But I do know that the reality is unless I was handcuffed to her 24/7, there really very little I could have done.

I apologize yesterday for snapping, I thought that you as a regular subchatter knew my story.



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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 16 12:27:53 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:18:40 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's sad to have wanted a child and never had one. But I don't think that God is punishing you. Because then he would also be punishing billions of other people who have done nothing wrong for their daily misery.




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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 12:31:31 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 16 12:27:53 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's self-centered to think that the God of the Universe cares about you enough to torture you.

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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jul 16 12:40:08 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:18:40 2015.

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How often have you posted this story here?

If you want to have a child, you could have a child. That's not the issue. The issue is presumably that you want to have a child as part of a committed relationship such as a marriage. So if you're being punished, your sentence is not finding a wife, not not having a child.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 12:49:40 2015, in response to Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jul 15 15:08:44 2015.

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If the parts helped someone from the unfortunite aborted unwanted pregnance, then i do not see what is so wrong

The biggest problem we have in society is the hopelessness and dispair and all the crime associated with people who are unloved by thier parents who they commit violent crimes.

Look at the history of the two murderers who escaped from the jail upstate. Both were the product of an unwanted pregnancy

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 12:50:52 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 15 19:35:58 2015.

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Most murderes who kill inocent people are the result of unwanted pregnancys. Look at the two murderes who escaped the jail upstate. BOth the product of unwanted births

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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:52:58 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 16 12:27:53 2015.

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True enough. But not a day goes by that I don't think about it.

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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:54:44 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 12:31:31 2015.

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I'll give you the same response.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 12:56:48 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 15 20:11:57 2015.

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once again an unwanted birth leads to a life of hell for the child who then goes onto commiting crimes.

The bible was written in a time where it was not concievable that people would treet thier children without love and guidance.

Many of these children born from parents who do not love each other commit crimes and grow up unloves and miserable .

Just think of that, better off not born. Sad to say and comflicts with the religious teachings. No religious person could ever imagine parents who don't look after ther children. Unfortunitly it is far too common. It is the hardest part of my job as a teacher for over 20 years. The hardest by far. Looking into a childs eye and see that he has no one to trust and look after him. It leads to anger, rage and doing things to hurt oneself. many times these children have children young with someone they dont love and the cycle continues

Think of that when you are against abortion. I was once against abortion, now i am not. It is the lesser of two evils

Many not all of these children live lives of hell on earth

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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:56:53 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by terRAPIN station on Thu Jul 16 12:40:08 2015.

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not finding a wife

Easier said than done.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:57:55 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 12:56:48 2015.

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WOW! I agree to disagree.

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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jul 16 13:08:57 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:18:40 2015.

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Sad story. But you are not being punished. I hope you find happiness.

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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 13:09:22 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:18:40 2015.

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The child that would have came into the world would have been loved greeatly by you. I feel for you that you never had another oppurtunity to have a child . I was in the same boat until 6 years ago when i had twin boys and now i also have a girl y years old. I was 23 and was not ready to have a child. Before I had a child with my wife I thought of how nice would my 10 year old boy or girl be as I took them to the ballgame, subway museume etc.

Then I see the other side. Mixed up children where one parent (the mother) does not want the father around and put the children in between. Mother who uses child as tool to get back at man. My buddy is an doctor, his babies mother a super market check out slacker. Had a child, got married for the child, got divorsed and the child is failing out of school. Mixed up, does drugs etc. He loves his child but sad at the same time.

As I said in previos posts. In some communities 80% children are born without committed loving parents. This leads to high rates of sadness, minor mental illness, depression and other serious issues that leads to crime, teanage preganancy and the lack of ability to trust someone. I see children at my job as a teacher of over 20 years just as empty souls, sad, depressed and confuses. I also see children from the same family that the oldest are all mixed up due to unwanted pregancy and the youngest from a committed loving relationship are NORMAL.

Most criminals are form unloving homes. FYI just becasue parents are married does not make it a loving home and just because a mother is a single mother it does not make it an unloving home. It has to do with the love for the child. Many people have the chuld to try to get the man they want to stay with them and then after the man leaves, the child is the symbol for thier dispair.

If the person wants an abortion, they dont want the child and thus should not have the child I think that anyone who has an abortion should have to go to mandatory counciling on responcible behavior.


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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 13:12:20 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by italianstallion on Thu Jul 16 13:08:57 2015.

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two votes for happiness. It is out there just keep looking and you will find it.



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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 13:13:27 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 12:56:48 2015.

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The bible was written in a time where it was not concievable that people would treet thier children without love and guidance.

That is false. The bible was written in a worse time and its lessons reflect that.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 13:24:16 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 13:13:27 2015.

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In those times, people would get murdered if they had sex out of marrige . That was the abotion of the day

Read other texts from the period.

Yes the bible was a roadmap back to civility. The family bond existed throughout the period .

Today the family bond in some communities (subsidized communities of both races, upper class families as well) is broken. Asian families work together. build together .
My mother always talks about my families early days in the USA. At first multiple families lived in one tiny apartment. They saved their money. The families TOGETHER put a down payment on a house. New familes that came to the usa all lived in the house until they got one thier feet. My grandfather rose to construction forman getting everyone a job along the way. Today ALL the grandchuldren have homes with the help of the family. Some are professionals, some laborers and some too got too comfortable an are losers.


Broken familes do not. Most people need a group of committed people working together to be happy.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 13:30:53 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 13:24:16 2015.

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You’ve obviously never read the Bible.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 13:49:29 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 13:30:53 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
8 years of catholic school my friend.

And read other books of the period which fills in the gaps

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Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 16 13:49:44 2015, in response to Re: IT'S TIME FOR CHICAGOMOTORMAN AND ITALIANSTALLION TO CALL A TRUCE, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jul 16 12:18:40 2015.

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Too bad. The missed opportunities...

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 16 13:55:15 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by brightonr68 on Thu Jul 16 13:49:29 2015.

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There are no “other books of the period.”

As for Catholic School, of course they would teach you the sanitized version.

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 16 13:55:58 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 15 20:06:56 2015.

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Which is an opportunity that is rare to say the least. About 90% of all abortions are first trimester, where fetal organs would be unrecoverable.

Are you suggesting that more women be encouraged to carry their fetuses longer, to provide a better harvest?

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 16 14:19:38 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 16 13:55:58 2015.

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Are you out of your mind?

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Re: CHICHICAGOMOTORMAN USES HATEFUL ETHNIC SLURs

Posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 16 14:21:33 2015, in response to Re: CHICHICAGOMOTORMAN USES HATEFUL ETHNIC SLURs, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 16 09:50:17 2015.

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Ironically, the term "Dago" was not a reference to Italians but to Hispanics.

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Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 16 14:37:02 2015, in response to Re: Planned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by italianstallion on Wed Jul 15 19:56:11 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No. That refers to humans once they are born alive. Nothing about fetuses in the Old Testament.

Sure there is. Exodus 21:22 specifically says abortion isn't murder.

The Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 72b establishes that life begins when the head of a baby has emerged, and abortion may be performed up to that point to save the mother's life.

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 16 14:42:02 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 16 14:19:38 2015.

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No, I'm not.

You know what an upsetting subject this is, and Italianstallion is trying to ennoble it, and I apologize if you are trying to dissociate yourself from that.

The commercialization of life is morally questionable, but even if you could show this is 100% ethical and 100% honest, the picture of a high official of Planned Parenthood pleasantly discussing that they have learned to carefully preserve organs during an abortion, how they can "crush above" and "crush below" but not crush the targeted part as she proceeds to dig into her salad is callous to say the least.

I'll restate what I said before: You want to deny this shows what it seems to show, because it is ugly.

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Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT

Posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 16 14:44:47 2015, in response to Re: ITALIANSTALLION IS THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE ON SUBCHAT, posted by 3-9 on Thu Jul 16 10:59:46 2015.

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No, Italians are not a race. It is ethnocentrism.

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Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts

Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 16 14:56:58 2015, in response to Re: DISPROVENPlanned Parenthood Uses Partial-Birth Abortions to Sell Baby Parts, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 16 14:42:02 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I don't understand your point. I am very disappointed at the number of abortions in the US each year. I wish no woman ever wanted to have an abortion.

But if a woman decides to have an abortion, I see no problem with the fetus being used for medical research that can make us healthier in the long run.

As for callousness, how should people talk when they are talking about tissue for research? I'm an actuary and a lot of my job involves using tables that predict how long people will live. When I discuss mortality rates with a colleague, am I required to say "God rest their souls" at the end of every sentence?



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