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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 16:45:25 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 16:21:30 2012.

Elections are not democracy. Even the USSR had elections.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 16:59:12 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jul 10 16:27:29 2012.

Oh, ok.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 17:02:55 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 10 16:37:53 2012.

Gimme Bush's baked beans.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 17:04:42 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 16:21:30 2012.

Maybe it'll take THIS:
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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 10 17:09:54 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 16:21:30 2012.

The Islamists can destroy the pyramids and nobody will do a thing about it. Hillary Clinton will sit there, wringing her hands and tell us that its an internal Egyptian affair. What are we going to do, send in fighter jets to stop them? Think that might be an unpopular war?

It would be unpopular because people are idiots. The pyramids are worth more than the lives of millions of comparatively worthless Egyptians.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 10 17:11:43 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by JayMan on Tue Jul 10 16:30:33 2012.

Democracy sucks. Our founders were right for being wary of it.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 10 17:12:05 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jul 10 16:27:29 2012.

LOL!

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 10 17:16:41 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jul 10 16:28:21 2012.

You do realize he's talking about mass murder, don't you?

You can't surgically wipe out a few leaders with sarin. You dump it on Tahrir Square to kill hundreds of thousands of demonstrators.



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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 17:20:47 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 10 17:16:41 2012.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 17:26:43 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 10 16:22:24 2012.

Nah. They would never want to show the quality of Jewish workmanship. The Pyramids have stood the test of time.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 17:28:18 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 10 17:09:54 2012.

I'm not sure the Pyramids are worth more than millions of human lives.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 17:28:42 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 17:28:18 2012.

What are you sure of?

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 17:32:05 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 17:28:42 2012.

Death and taxes.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 17:35:07 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 17:26:43 2012.

Jewish (Judah) only? What of the children of Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Dan, Napthali, Gad, Issachar, Asher, Zebulun, Ephraim, Manasseh, and Benjamin? (Job, reputed to be the pyramids' architect, was of Issachar.)

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 17:35:43 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 10 17:32:05 2012.

Thanks, Son Of The Right Hand Franklin.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 17:38:01 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 17:35:07 2012.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 17:50:43 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Jul 10 16:28:21 2012.

So you support terrorism as long as its not on you?

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 17:52:20 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 15:47:01 2012.

What if we allowed that? Then the people who lived didn't forget then they taught their children to hate us? Then those children grew up and they came to NYC and used Sarin on the subway and killed thousands and injured tens of thousands? Would you say it was worth it?

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 17:55:07 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 17:50:43 2012.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 17:55:24 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 17:52:20 2012.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 17:57:43 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 10 17:11:43 2012.

There is no perfect form of government, as human nature is always going to act in a way to derail it. In essence every form of government makes sense, depending on the region, the religion etc. But people's need for wealth and power will always triumph in the end. Democracy is perfect in theory because everyone gets a voice, but then it becomes how will things get done as people won't do what they won't like even if its necessary. Monarchy's are excellent so long as the rule keeps his people happy and prosperous, because the decision making power is in one person so they assume all responsibilities and risk but they can make the choice that isn't popular but beneficial to their people. But of course we know what happens when Monarchs become soiled. Communism in essence is excellent too, everyone is equal, we all work for the community and the common good, but then where is the reward for the work put forth? Why is the doctor on the same level as the fisherman?

But Democracy as a government form does not suck, its just the people in the governments that do.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 17:58:22 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 17:55:24 2012.

You begin the cycle the of violence, don't cry when it comes back and slaps you in the face.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 17:58:43 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 17:55:07 2012.

So you are like Osama. Congrats.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 18:14:33 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 10 17:16:41 2012.

And yet there are some here who actually supported sadaam hussein, who engaged in just that sort of mass murder.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 18:15:33 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 18:14:33 2012.

What makes it worse is that Ba'ath ideology is based on national socialism.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 18:17:52 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 18:14:33 2012.

And yet there are some here who actually supported sadaam hussein,

The last great Arab leader.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 18:20:04 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 18:17:52 2012.

Thank you, Travis

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 18:20:09 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 17:58:22 2012.

Hey, if the scum keep it up, a new Crusade will surely follow. Civilization will only put up with so much BULLSHIT.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 18:21:16 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 10 17:16:41 2012.

You do realize he's talking about mass murder, don't you?


Like when liquidiating Nazis, killing Islamo-fascists is never murder.

It's a public service deserving of the highest praise.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 18:23:02 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 18:21:16 2012.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 18:24:57 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 18:21:16 2012.

Much like killing politicians who didn't vote for the First Responder's Bill?

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 18:27:53 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 18:20:09 2012.

Have you thought about the simple things that will bring about change in the middle east? Education
Internet
Access to Information

Education in the middle east especially in the poorer nations primarily through religious institutions including more radical ones. The people grow us indoctrinated and heavily religious simply because they could not receive a western style education, and also have access to learn about the world around them. Even in Iran, there are those born in Iran who support the US and proudly display their desire to live in the US and have freedom like those. To lump people together like you do, shows your extreme incompetence for understanding the world around you. Your solution will only further bloodshed and cause future generations lives. Your selfish desires are unamerica and unpatriotic.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 18:29:47 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 18:24:57 2012.

You don't think that Nazis and Islamo-fascists ought not to be killed at every chance?

They are cancer and cancers need to be removed before they spread.

No ifs and buts about it. These people are dangerous.
Normal discourse and practices does not and must never apply to them.

Jesus was wrong about turning the other cheek.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 18:29:57 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 18:24:57 2012.

pwnt.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 18:38:10 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 18:27:53 2012.

Stunod, Islam DESPISES education. Open a school in an infested area and the imams will blow it up with free explosives from Iran.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Allan on Tue Jul 10 18:39:24 2012, in response to Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 13:03:55 2012.

I figured they would want to do that but was wondering when they were going to get around to announcing their intentions regarding ancient Egyptian artifacts.

It didn't take them that long after the election.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 10 18:46:08 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 18:14:33 2012.

No one here "supported" Saddam Hussein but rather considered it a fools errand to spend a trillion dollars to remove him. He was also a strong bulwark against Iran so he served our strategic purpose at the time.

We do know however, who really supported Saddam Hussein:



your pal,
Fred

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 10 18:49:49 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 10 18:46:08 2012.

And the same people who brought "democracy" the past two years to all those folks yearning for it over there. :-\

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 18:58:03 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 18:38:10 2012.

Then you know what has to be done? You know it upsets them so then you keep rebuilding, you let the Imams know they wont win. Impoverished nations are often the breeding grounds for terrorism, raise a country out of poverty, provide them an education and then they will learn to decide their own truths rather than being indoctrinated.

So you would rather bomb, but you're scared to build a school?

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:05:21 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 18:29:47 2012.

Nazis thought that killing Jews was justified because Jews were a "cancer". I don't like Nazis. I don't like Islamo-facists. I believe in a strong defense. I don't see genocide as a viable offense.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 19:06:17 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 18:58:03 2012.

Sometimes you have to destroy a village in order to save it.

See Germany and Japan circa 1945.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:07:41 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 18:38:10 2012.

Stunod spelled backwards is Donuts.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 19:10:54 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:07:41 2012.

Interesting, Thank You. 600 calories for 4 bites is STUNOD!!!

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 19:11:05 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:05:21 2012.

Unlike with "The Jews" or "The Homosexuals" or "The Gypsies", the verdict on Nazis and their ilk is in.
They are judged by their actions.

Jews, gays and gypsies never put people in concentration camps nor did they ever allude to.

Your equating what the Nazis said about Jews and others and what they actually did is one of the worst cop-outs ever.

For every neo-Nazi that is allowed to breath, 100 good people risk not to.


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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:17:00 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by RockParkMan on Tue Jul 10 19:10:54 2012.

Don't tell me. Tell your friend to the east.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:20:45 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 19:11:05 2012.

Sorry and as tempting it is to be persuaded by that argument, I do not agree with pre-emptive mass murder. Do you, by that token, believe that we should as a prophylactic measure, nuke Tehran?

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 19:35:56 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 10 19:06:17 2012.

Technically you're wrong with Japan as they kept the Emperor as a stabilizing figure because they knew what would happen if they didn't keep him. But in this situation its not whole nations that are fighting the US to the death but rather rebels who are using the impoverished and uneducated to their advantage.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jul 10 19:40:58 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:20:45 2012.

For once we agree on something. To do pre-emptive mass murder is counter to what we are about as a nation.

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 10 19:45:47 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:07:41 2012.

Stunhguod?

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Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 10 19:56:38 2012, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts; Imams call for destruction of pyramids, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 10 19:20:45 2012.

If we take that turn, we've lost the moral argument. I agree with you.

Your pal,
Fred

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