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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:26:05 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 18:17:08 2012. Hey this civil service employee was in a profitable small business long before you had yours. I made a choice to move to the private sector and take a cut in salary because I wanted the security that it provided. Don't blame me if you were too fucking stupid to do likewise. Of course, I'm assuming that what you say about me holds true for every other civil service employee on this board and elsewhere. Do you honestly believe that we were all sucking on the public teat? Does that include your moron bunk mate who was run out of two civil service jobs? Was he sucking on the public teat then too? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 18:31:44 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:26:05 2012. We should ALL seek gov't employment. Steady work, job security, not to mention the perks. Staying in the private sector seems foolish if you ask me :)Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:33:05 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 18:22:59 2012. No - Bain Capital was about Capitalism. It was about streamlining and bringing companies back to profitability. You know yourself that if your company were not profitable, you'd do what it took to return it to profitability and that might just include laying off a person or two. (I have no idea how many people work for you) As I said Capitalism isn't always pretty but it beats all other economic models for viability and longevity. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 18:34:40 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 13:10:15 2012. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:35:41 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 18:31:44 2012. Hey, the jobs are there for the taking. We sold our family business in 1981. I have never regretted my choices in life - especially being able to work in an industry that was also a hobby. And when and if I return to the industry, you can be sure it will not be about the money. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 18:40:25 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:33:05 2012. Georgetown Steel was doing just fine before Bain stepped in. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 18:44:32 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jun 4 12:28:45 2012. Nah ... needs more work ... but a /b/ for effort. :)
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:53:47 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 18:40:25 2012. Yes and I guess that Bain also went into Bethlehem and colosed that venerable institution as well. You, once again are portraying the extremist liberal version of Georgetown Steel to further your own political ends perhaps this might shed another light on the subject."Let's start with Georgetown Steel, Bain's South Carolina foray into the steel industry. The story of steel starts over a century ago. Steel production had been one of the great engines of American industrial growth in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. U.S. Steel, founded in 1901 as a consolidation of several mid-sized manufacturers, quickly became the largest producer of steel in the world, and was the first corporation in history with a market capitalization of more than $1 billion. In the aftermath of the New Deal, however, labor unions began to flex their muscles. In 1959, the United Steelworkers of America launched a devastating nationwide strike that shut down 85 percent of all U.S. steel production for four months. As a result of the effects that the strike was having on the national economy, and even on the nation's military capabilities, President Eisenhower invoked the Taft-Hartley Act, and forced the union to end the strike. While Eisenhower's move appeared to be a setback for union power, unions were able to extract significant concessions from the steel industry, such as automatic annual wage increases and new pension and health benefits. This outcome was to have long-term consequences for steel manufacturing in the United States. Beginning in 1959, American consumers of steel, such as the automakers, resolved to become less vulnerable to future disruptions in their supply of raw materials. For the first time, they began importing steel from abroad in significant quantities. They found that steel from emerging economies like Japan and South Korea was just as good as American steel, but much cheaper. " So there you have it - .............. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:57:05 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 18:40:25 2012. Yes and I guess that Bain also went into Bethlehem and closed that venerable institution as well. You, once again are portraying the extremist liberal version of Georgetown Steel to further your own political ends. Perhaps this might shed another light on the subject."Let's start with Georgetown Steel, Bain's South Carolina foray into the steel industry. The story of steel starts over a century ago. Steel production had been one of the great engines of American industrial growth in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. U.S. Steel, founded in 1901 as a consolidation of several mid-sized manufacturers, quickly became the largest producer of steel in the world, and was the first corporation in history with a market capitalization of more than $1 billion. In the aftermath of the New Deal, however, labor unions began to flex their muscles. In 1959, the United Steelworkers of America launched a devastating nationwide strike that shut down 85 percent of all U.S. steel production for four months. As a result of the effects that the strike was having on the national economy, and even on the nation's military capabilities, President Eisenhower invoked the Taft-Hartley Act, and forced the union to end the strike. While Eisenhower's move appeared to be a setback for union power, unions were able to extract significant concessions from the steel industry, such as automatic annual wage increases and new pension and health benefits. This outcome was to have long-term consequences for steel manufacturing in the United States. Beginning in 1959, American consumers of steel, such as the automakers, resolved to become less vulnerable to future disruptions in their supply of raw materials. For the first time, they began importing steel from abroad in significant quantities. They found that steel from emerging economies like Japan and South Korea was just as good as American steel, but much cheaper. " So there you have it - .............. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:01:44 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:20:00 2012. NEVER, eh? Right Here:http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=946666 Well at least YOU'RE consistent ... always a moron, always claiming that you're special because you're Jewish. You should be ashamed of yourself ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:04:19 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 18:22:59 2012. Seems? lol |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 19:04:35 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:01:44 2012. I will suspend my self imposed edict of never responding to one of your posts again for this one time.You posted that at 2:42 this morning. Where were your comments when Sharpton was running for president? If I'm wrong - show me. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:06:44 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 17:56:21 2012. Says the socialist apparatchik from the People's Republic of New York who is comfortably resting in his datcha thumbing his nose at the rest of the world. Carry on, comrade! |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:12:41 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:53:47 2012. Georgetown Steel was successful, profitable and had a steady business until Bain took over.I'm not interested in your non-attributed quote. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:13:12 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 12:47:16 2012. It's all about the deductions ... |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:13:32 2012, in response to Re: Some Truths about Bain Capital, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:57:05 2012. See title. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:14:21 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 19:04:35 2012. OH? How do I get you to do that for me? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 4 19:14:45 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 16:08:10 2012. Did Cuomo give you a contract yet?Better give a good one because he's a Democrat and the Democrats are pro-union. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:14:55 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 4 13:16:55 2012. Of course not ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:16:43 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 16:11:48 2012. That's because of the debt load Bain left on the company ... it'll still take many years to pay off that load. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:17:38 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 16:22:43 2012. And snuck copies of the Quran into every school lunch. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:27:44 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 19:04:35 2012. Oh lucky me ... I'm *so* honored by your acknowledgement of the mighty cock of Sel. I bow in your holy light! :)I don't comment on Ron Paul either because like Jackson, Sharpton and many others, he has zero chance of actually getting elected. Not so with the Bishop. Now ... as long as you're showing off your plumber's crack here, can you replace that bullshit button? It's working as well as your door enablers. Needs to be replaced. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:29:24 2012, in response to Re: Some non-attributed paragraph about Bain Capital, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:13:32 2012. He doesn't require attribution. He speaks from his holy chair like the Pope. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:30:44 2012, in response to Re: Some non-attributed paragraph about Bain Capital, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:29:24 2012. Must be bigger than the Chair of St Peter, made of porcelain with a cushy donut pad. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 19:31:18 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:12:41 2012. Well said. Live in ignorance - |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 19:33:09 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:14:21 2012. I am your drug of choice these days, You have to respond to me. You can't help yourself. QED |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 19:42:41 2012, in response to Re: Some non-attributed paragraph about Bain Capital, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:30:44 2012. "http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/289009/bain-capital-s-legacy-south-carolina-avik-roy#Oooh Geee whiz. Look what I did. I just took the first sentence and plugged it into Google and look what I found. Now it's no longer non-attributed. What's your next excuse? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:55:49 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 19:31:18 2012. Don't care to follow your example, thanks. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 19:57:12 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 19:55:49 2012. QED |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 19:57:40 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 4 19:14:45 2012. What does that have to do with this topic? Dumbass |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 4 19:58:58 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 19:57:40 2012. Do you think you guys will get a few zeros across the board?And what's up with the name-calling during an honest debate about politics? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 20:00:39 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 4 19:58:58 2012. Because you sidestep the main topic and begin a new one so do the right thing and start a new topic dumbass or stick to the topic already discussed dumbass |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 4 20:02:52 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 20:00:39 2012. I'm sure no one minds me bringing up politics in a thread like this.So do you think Cuomo will come through with a good contract for you? He should because he's a liberal Democrat. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 4 20:09:41 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 19:01:44 2012. Lol! That was posted today after you already stated your propaganda on rommey. Lets see the posts from when they were running as romney is now ....oh wait i bet there arent any as they are democrats who get a free pass from you. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jun 4 20:14:30 2012, in response to Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Jun 3 21:17:47 2012. So why does Mr. Perfect hide his money in off shore accounts? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 20:15:18 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 4 20:02:52 2012. Stick to the topic because that's what I'm discussing. I have no interest in discussing this in this thread |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 4 20:15:24 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Fred G on Mon Jun 4 18:31:44 2012. She claims "sucking tge public t..." Well so long as the democrats allow such....its there for the taking. Dont blame the people that take advantage of it because your democrats allow it. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 4 20:18:34 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:33:05 2012. I know of a company that went belly up because they didnt do such. The owner was a saint...could never fire or lay anyone off....and some of the employees were pure mooches...werent worth a fraction of what he paid them. The result? The company went belly up and EVERYONE lost their jobs instead of people that should have been fired years ago. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 20:20:49 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 4 20:09:41 2012. So are you moving to Missouri to wait for the rapture? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 20:21:33 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Elkeeper on Mon Jun 4 20:14:30 2012. To avoid those unfair taxes on the rich which he'll fix once elected and his money will stay there anyway. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 20:32:16 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 18:33:05 2012. Then why are you complaining about the unemployment rate? If companies are trying to streamline and it requires less people or shipping jobs off to other countries then why are people like you complaining about unemployment? It's capitalism... Right? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 20:33:09 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 4 20:15:24 2012. There's a world of difference between working functioning civil servants that keep up with the changes in the technologies they work with, pursue continuing education to perform better in their positions, and those that just schlump through until called one day to be sent into retirement. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 20:35:58 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 20:32:16 2012. Logic isn't one of his strong suits ... in fact, he doesn't even have the shirt that goes with it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 20:52:01 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 4 20:09:41 2012. You know that when it comes to liberal hypocrisy, he's the leader of the pack. TAG - he's "it". |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:07:43 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jun 4 20:18:34 2012. You are speaking liberal blasphemy |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:18:47 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Jun 4 20:32:16 2012. You are mixing apples and oranges and not even getting a decent fruit salad. Bain did not streamline Solyndra so 1700 jobs were lost along with 593 million taxpayer dollars. Trimming fat and streamlining a company is better than losing all the jobs when the company would otherwise go belly up.That though is a whole other subject from creating an environment where companies can prosper and create jobs. Our current president has not done that, Instead of picking winners and losers he should be giving tax credits to companies that develop new technologies and products and allow them to flourish instead of singling out companies for government welfare - success or failure. The one universal thought is that this president has not created a business friendly economy and they are like turtles tucked safely in their shells waiting for the danger to pass. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 21:22:09 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 20:33:09 2012. There are plenty of private employees that "keep up with the changes in technologies, continuing education" and so forth too. Again, if you Democrats continue to allow such as what you are claiming, blame them, not the employees benefiting from it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:26:31 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 4 21:22:09 2012. The "Bim" is also making some very great assumptions. Except that she's parroting the clown that she's married to, the assumption that civil servants don't keep up with the current technology has no basis in fact. When a new technology comes on board, everyone is trained. Some of us actually go to school so we can do the training. But what can you expect from a schlep who never learned how to stop a train. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 4 21:30:09 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jun 4 21:26:31 2012. Heh ... so with all of your SPecial High Intensity Training, why wouldn't they let you anywhere near 143's or 160's? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 4 21:32:46 2012, in response to Re: Some facts about Mitt Romney, posted by bingbong on Mon Jun 4 16:30:20 2012. The sole parameter was maximizing their profit.GOOD! That should be the goal of every business. |
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