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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 17:39:15 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 17:36:07 2012. The Confederate flag is a symbol of hatred. A symbol if of an OLD SOUTH were Blacks are slaves and not considered people. Do you get that part? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 17:40:27 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 17:39:03 2012. lol......I don't understand why GP38/R42 Chris is being so thickheaded .....do you? maybe we need to get a better hammer...lol...if there is such a device...lol ...right? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 17:45:23 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 17:40:27 2012. I find it kinda sad myself. I can understand Train Dude being dumber than a fence post, but Chris used to show signs of some brain power. Damn those republicans ... damn them! :)
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 18:00:09 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 17:45:23 2012. " I can understand Train Dude being dumber than a fence post, but Chris used to show signs of some brain power. "Could be the pods from the Republican camp.... :) 
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 18:01:44 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 18:00:09 2012. These is modern times. They come by turnip truck now. :) |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Feb 21 18:15:24 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 17:23:35 2012. I don't remember. It may have been CMT, but it may not have been. I remember watching it sometimes around 6 or 7:00 (well pre prime time).Per Wikipedia, it wasn't on CMT until 2005. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Feb 21 18:15:57 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 17:15:32 2012. They could never come up with a new series with a car like that.Of course not, because there already was a series! |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Feb 21 22:45:49 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 13:53:35 2012. The top flag was the national flag of the CSA. The bottom flag, the one most Americans recognize today, is the Confederate battle flag. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 23:01:01 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Feb 21 22:45:49 2012. Partially correct. The battle flag isn't the flag that people fly today. They fly one that looks like it, but is rectangular as Spider Pig mentioned. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 23:22:41 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 21 18:00:09 2012. Speaking of which, how did the interview go? Did you get the job as the Tooth Fairy? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 23:24:02 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 18:01:44 2012. If your wife lets you have your balls back for a day, let me know. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 23:25:20 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 23:24:02 2012. If only your balls got held every once and a while, you wouldn't be such a sourpuss. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:49:17 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 23:01:01 2012. And isn't it orange? That looks red, unless that's a mistake. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:49:45 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Feb 21 18:15:24 2012. No, it was way before that. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 23:55:24 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:49:45 2012. I remember it being on as well although I never watched it (I did watch as a kid). Was it on The Nashville Network (TNN)? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:56:35 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 23:55:24 2012. That's probably it, the Nashville Network. I know it was on, and in that time slot, but don't remember which channel. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:58:53 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:56:35 2012. It was the Nashville Network according to this, that must be where I remembered it being on:http://www.lakecountyfair.org/dukes.html |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Feb 22 00:14:20 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:58:53 2012. Before TNN changed to Spike they started showing Star Trek TNG which was the only time that I watched it. But back in the day I used to watch the Dukes of Hazzard when it was on CBS. Probably just the first couple of years and then I got older. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 00:55:58 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:49:17 2012. It is red. If it's orange, then it's faded or poorly done. Most "treason flags" are red. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 22 03:02:41 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 23:56:35 2012. Yeah I remember that.It was TNN. The station changed it's name a few years later. I forget to what. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 03:36:49 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 22 03:02:41 2012. Easy said it changed to Spike. I never realized Spike used to be TNN, shows you how much I watched TNN.... I never even noticed it was gone, haha. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 22 03:37:07 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 22 03:02:41 2012. Spike ... They spun themselves into the ground when everybody looked to Sumner Redstone to rebuild the Grand Ole Opry and he told them to piss off. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 03:37:37 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 00:55:58 2012. No, on the Dukes of Hazzard, it's specifically always called an orange car. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Feb 22 03:37:58 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 03:36:49 2012. Yep ... TNN wasn't redneck enough of a name. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 03:38:39 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 03:37:37 2012. Perhaps it's like people always calling the 49th St station's tiles red, when they are clearly orange. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Feb 22 03:42:45 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 03:38:39 2012. The tiles at 49th St are a sort of "blood tangerine orange". |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 22 07:15:51 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Feb 21 09:35:29 2012. I still stand by my statement. While I don't disagree about the Stars and Bars being a symbol of treason (like our flag is to England)it is not a symbol of hate in of itsself. Lately the whole P.C. crowd has been erroniously trying to pin the S & B as an exclusive symbol of the KKK and other hate groups when in reality it is a historical flag of the South in which many tolerant law-abiding people take pride in. Try to dress it up all you want, the reason why the G.L. was removed was because the powers that be didn't want to hear any backlash that it "offended" the Blacks. Period.One thing about me is I HATE Political Correctness and the whole "victim mentality" angle that comes along with it. Look at the BS "hate crimes". Last time I checked EVERY crime is a hate crime. Am I wrong? Oooohhh I'm offended!! This is the catch phrase for the 21st century. Everyone has to man up and grow a pair of balls and not let such BS trivial things bother them. Look at that whole ESPN chink in the armor fiasco. Who gives a fuck? Really? Boo hoo hoo I'm offended. Whaaaa!! Give me a break!! I know I'm ranting but our whole pussified P.C. society gets under my skin. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 08:29:15 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 22 07:15:51 2012. You are absolutely correct. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 10:44:46 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 22 07:15:51 2012. I still stand by my statement. While I don't disagree about the Stars and Bars being a symbol of treasonNobody said anything about the Stars and Bars. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 10:45:38 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 08:29:15 2012. Except that he's talking about the Stars and Bars for some reason while the rest of us were talking about the treason flag. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 11:20:08 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 23:22:41 2012. "Speaking of which, how did the interview go? Did you get the job as the Tooth Fairy?"Some other applicant named Mrs. Train Dude got it......they wanted the BEST MAN for the job....you know.....one that flies with lies.... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 11:21:00 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Train Dude on Tue Feb 21 23:24:02 2012. "If your wife lets you have your balls back for a day, let me know." |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 11:22:47 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 23:25:20 2012. "If only your balls got held every once and a while, you wouldn't be such a sourpuss. :) "His balls get tossed around everytime he rides up to Brokeback Mountain.... :) |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 22 12:12:16 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 10:45:38 2012. Based on what he said in his post, I dont think it matters. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 12:41:25 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 22 07:15:51 2012. "While I don't disagree about the Stars and Bars being a symbol of treason (like our flag is to England)it is not a symbol of hate in of itsself."Somehow you will never learn/understand how it feels to live in a REAL segregated society like it was in the South. I feel sorry you will never get that part or understand how the Confederated flag is used as a message of bringing back the period in Southern history were Black were considered less than human. I am certain you would never understand that part since you constantly throw in the P.C. this and the P.C. that to avoid the obvious which is racism. As far the hate crime part is concerned, you obviously have difficulties accepting that part as well. There are reasons for those hate crime laws. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 13:05:27 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Feb 22 12:12:16 2012. There is a HUGE difference. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 13:43:36 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 13:05:27 2012. Not in his point. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Feb 22 13:59:17 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 03:48:39 2012. Good grief!! It's from a damn television show that virtually everybody that watched it loved it. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Feb 22 14:09:51 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Tue Feb 21 17:32:28 2012. Cripe!! Numbers please. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 14:11:23 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Feb 22 13:59:17 2012. Wow, Dan Lawrence is finally right! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Feb 22 14:41:49 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Feb 22 14:09:51 2012. Cripe!! Numbers please.About 360,200 Union deaths in the Civil War About 213,400 U.S. deaths in Europe in World War 2. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 14:42:07 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 13:43:36 2012. Yes it is. The stars and bars was the historical flag of the confederacy. The flag he's talking about is not.But the Confederacy itself was never lawful. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 22 14:43:37 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Feb 22 14:09:51 2012. WTF? You are not aware that more Americans died fighting in the civil war than in any other war? You are really fucking clueless. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Feb 22 14:55:34 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 22 13:43:36 2012. There is because the stars and bars is a legitimate flag to celebrate the confederacy. But I suspect that he mistakenly thought that the obscure battle flag popularized by the KKK and white citizens councils that people fly today was the "stars and bars" but it's not. Many people mistakenly call it that though. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 15:03:16 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Wed Feb 22 14:55:34 2012. "There is because the stars and bars is a legitimate flag to celebrate the confederacy."It use to celebrate the confederacy and the time period which INCLUDED SLAVERY OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS...where they thought as less than Human.....so is that something we in 2012 should be celebrating in America? I think not. You can if you want....doesn't mean it's right either. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Feb 22 15:15:34 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 15:03:16 2012. I don't celebrate the confederacy nor do I advocate doing so. Regarding slavery, I don't celebrate the founding fathers either. Do you? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 15:19:44 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Wed Feb 22 15:15:34 2012. "Regarding slavery, I don't celebrate the founding fathers either. Do you?"I celebrate Independence Day since I am an American.....which pertains to the founding fathers. As far as slavery, no sane person would be celebrating that activity. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Feb 22 15:24:16 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 15:19:44 2012. Why celebrate "independence" when so many people were enslaved? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Feb 22 15:29:29 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Wed Feb 22 15:24:16 2012. "Why celebrate "independence" when so many people were enslaved? "As Americans we celebrate are independence from Great Britain on the 4th of July. THIW. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Feb 22 15:43:38 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Feb 22 07:15:51 2012. And that is also why I disagree with this ban. |
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