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NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 22:45:51 2012 edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Flag flap: NASCAR nixes Watson's 'General Lee' lap By CHRIS JENKINS, AP Sports Writer DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) — NASCAR and track officials canceled plans to have pro golfer Bubba Watson drive the car from the television series "The Dukes of Hazzard" at Phoenix International Raceway because of concerns about a negative reaction to an image of the Confederate flag. Watson was scheduled to drive the 1969 Dodge Charger, known as the "General Lee," on a parade lap before the March 4 Sprint Cup series race at Phoenix. The car has a large Confederate flag on its roof, just as it did when it appeared on the show. "The image of the Confederate flag is not something that should play an official role in our sport as we continue to reach out to new fans and make NASCAR more inclusive," NASCAR spokesman David Higdon said in a statement Friday. Higdon said it was a joint decision by officials with NASCAR, the racetrack, and track ownership group International Speedway Corp. While the flag may not be welcome in an official capacity in NASCAR, it often can be seen flying from fans' vehicles in racetrack infields. Reached Friday at the Northern Trust Open in Los Angeles, Watson said the car only has the flag on it because that's the way it looked on the show. "Obviously, I don't stand for the Confederate flag," Watson said. "The Confederate flag was not used (in the show) for what people see it as today, so that's sad. But NASCAR was built on moonshining, so the show was built on moonshining. I thought it was fun. I didn't buy the car to get publicity; I bought it because I love it." Watson recently bought the car at an auction for $110,000. The photo on Watson's Twitter account shows him standing next to the car, and he drove it to the Phoenix Open earlier this month. "Two days ago, they called my manager and said we can't do it, that NASCAR pulled the plug on it," Watson said. "They said the reason was the Confederate flag on top. I understand if I was using it in that form. But I bought because it's (number) 01, from the TV show, and who doesn't want a car that's been jumped (in a TV stunt)? The TV show was about moonshining, driving in the backwoods in those days." Watson said he still will attend the Phoenix race, and still plans to let NASCAR driver Denny Hamlin caddy for him in the Par 3 tournament at the Masters. "Me and Denny have been friends for a couple of years," Watson said. "I'll still go to the race, even though I can't drive around the race track." AP Golf Writer Doug Ferguson contributed to this report from Los Angeles.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by AMoreira81* on Mon Feb 20 22:47:18 2012, in response to NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 22:45:51 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d C'mon, MAN!
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 20 22:48:01 2012, in response to NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 22:45:51 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d This country is in serious trouble.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Mon Feb 20 23:01:12 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 22:48:01 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yup.
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Posted by PATHman* on Mon Feb 20 23:02:05 2012, in response to NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 22:45:51 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Another race-baiting thread...
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by SMAZ* on Mon Feb 20 23:05:46 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 23:02:05 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d How is this race-baiting? I agree with NASCAR's decision. Symbols of treason, hate and aggression against the United States have no place in an American sports venue.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by PATHman* on Mon Feb 20 23:08:07 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 23:05:46 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Why do you have to create threads knowing it'll elicit a negative response from Train Dude, Luch, et. al? All I want is peace at Subchat.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 20 23:14:24 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 23:05:46 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's a symbol of heritage, not hate.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by SMAZ* on Mon Feb 20 23:18:46 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 23:14:24 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's a symbol of heritage, not hate.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 20 23:30:02 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 23:18:46 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The Confederate flag today represents southern white pickup truck country music working class man.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Mon Feb 20 23:30:29 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 23:05:46 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It was a popular TV Show in the 1970's. Geez. Daisy had some great legs.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Easy* on Mon Feb 20 23:33:23 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 23:30:02 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I used to have a white pickup truck.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 20 23:35:32 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 20 23:33:23 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d When I visit NYC and see people in Queens driving a Ford F150 I want to key it. They aren't needed in the city but idiots buy them as a status symbol.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Easy* on Mon Feb 20 23:38:59 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 23:35:32 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d How do you know that they aren't contractors?
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 20 23:44:35 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Mon Feb 20 23:38:59 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Some could be. I thought of that. But it's mostly macho types. They take up too much space on the road and parking. Someone should key their trucks for being such assholes.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 20 23:46:10 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 23:08:07 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Another ignant post from you. You're on a roll these last few days. I'll say the same thing I always say about that flag. "Heritage, not hate".
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by PATHman* on Mon Feb 20 23:49:57 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 23:46:10 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yeah, us black people are just ignant people who do nothing except smoke weed, live off welfare checks, go to prison, and knock up unwed women...
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 20 23:54:12 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 23:49:57 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d another ignant statement by you. Not all blacks are like that. In fact, most aren't. But those problems are far more serious in the black community compared to other segments of America. You must ignore my mafia posts.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by SMAZ* on Mon Feb 20 23:55:15 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 20 23:30:29 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Daisy's legs belong in the Guggenheim.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Mon Feb 20 23:57:08 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 23:49:57 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You'll like this
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by PATHman* on Mon Feb 20 23:59:54 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 23:57:08 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I get it, you show white people committing crimes as well...
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Feb 21 00:04:41 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 23:59:54 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d And I have been talking about the mafia since I started posting here. I'm giving up arguing for Lent so you won't be able to argue with me for 40 days. Philippians 2:14&15 – Do everything without complaining or arguing, so that you may become blameless and pure…
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Tue Feb 21 00:44:56 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 20 23:49:57 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Sounds fun ... where do I sign up? :)
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by chicagomotorman* on Tue Feb 21 01:00:53 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 20 23:01:12 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yup.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Easy* on Tue Feb 21 01:07:27 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Feb 21 01:00:53 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d zzzzzzzzz
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by WillD* on Tue Feb 21 01:26:46 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 20 23:46:10 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d A heritage of treason, sedition, and armed insurrection. Great, so we get to consider the reconstruction null and void for every moron who wants to declare so boldly they are an anti-American anarchist by flying that flag. Can we reopen Camp Douglas to house all those who would be so ignorant?
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Feb 21 01:51:31 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by WillD on Tue Feb 21 01:26:46 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d You know this has nothing to do with the Civil War. It's all about political correctness, how black people will react, and what big activism will do against NASCAR and their sponsors.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Tue Feb 21 02:07:50 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 01:51:31 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Then let them fly the nazi flag ... see how that goes over. :(
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Feb 21 02:13:38 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 21 02:07:50 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I won't be able to respond to a post like this in less 21 hours and 50 minutes. I don't know how the Confederate flag came to represent white southern country music redneck culture. But it does. That's why it's depicted as such in Dukes of Hazzard on the General Lee. Wasn't my idea.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Tue Feb 21 03:48:39 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 21 02:13:38 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Hate to break it, but "redneck culture" isn't something to admire. It's what makes the rest of the planet despise America. And having a redneck in chief in the "new millenium" associated with it all helped even less. I understand your point, but have a problem with neanderthal mindsets in the 21st century ... it's time the south evolves.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Dave* on Tue Feb 21 07:19:35 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 23:55:15 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d IAWTP!
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Posted by Mitch45* on Tue Feb 21 08:16:21 2012, in response to NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 22:45:51 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I agree with this decision. The Confederate flag may mean "independence" to Southerners but that independence meant the right to keep slaves. Its an offensive symbol. If someone wanted to drive around a NASCAR race with a swastika on the roof, I'd be pretty damn offended too.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Fred G* on Tue Feb 21 08:46:15 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Feb 21 08:16:21 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's a symbol of treason. your pal, Fred
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 21 09:05:45 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 01:07:27 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d zzzzzzzzz+1
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 21 09:07:28 2012, in response to NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 22:45:51 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Nobody cares about the Dukes of Hazzard anymore. Younger people will see the car and think they're trying to glorify the treason flag and not an old TV show. The first time I heard of the "General Lee" was when it was on Family Guy.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 21 09:25:03 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 09:07:28 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Oh come on, you aren't "that" young.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 21 09:27:48 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Feb 21 08:16:21 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I can't even imagine the fake "outrage" by leftists if they attempted to make a show like Dukes of Hazzard today. It was all about "South" nothing more. We've deteriorated since the late 70's.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Fred G* on Tue Feb 21 09:31:51 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 01:07:27 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d zzzzzzz+40 winks :) your pal, Fred
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Tue Feb 21 09:35:20 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 09:27:48 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I can't even imagine the fake "outrage" by leftists if they attempted to make a show like Dukes of Hazzard today. The movie only came out in 2005...
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Feb 21 09:35:29 2012, in response to NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by SMAZ on Mon Feb 20 22:45:51 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Political Correctness will kill this country. Scratch that-it will kill Western society as a whole.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 21 09:36:14 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 09:25:03 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Why not? The show went off the air when the only things I watched were Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 21 09:38:35 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Feb 21 09:35:20 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d +1 That is the only reason why I think that younger people might recognize it: "Like from that movie with Jessica Simpson."
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 21 09:40:51 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Feb 21 09:35:29 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d There is nothing "politically correct" about condemning the glorification of treason against your country. Free democratic nation states built modern Western society. It's slavery that's contrary to the march of the last 300 years of history.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 21 09:48:58 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 09:36:14 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's was in reruns for years after that.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 21 09:51:05 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Feb 21 09:35:20 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Movie? The series was on the air in the late 70's and early 80's. The movie was a spoof on the series, much like the Brady Bunch movie. The series already existed.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by GP38/R42 Chris* on Tue Feb 21 09:53:04 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 09:40:51 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The General Lee car is a symbol of a popular TV show and later a movie. It has nothing to do with "treason".
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by chicagomotorman* on Tue Feb 21 10:31:07 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Easy on Tue Feb 21 01:07:27 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by LuchAAA* on Tue Feb 21 10:41:47 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 21 09:07:28 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Younger people will see the car and think they're trying to glorify the treason flag and not an old TV show. No. They will think, "Uh-oh. Now the blacks are going be mad". The element of people who fly that flag don't know what treason means. To the people who fly the Confederate flag, it means white male, Baptist, country music, pickup truck, gun owning don't fuck with me man. I'll bet most people who display the Confederate flag are from a zip code with 20 times the number of blacks found living in a zip code members of the List of Leftists are from. Banning the Confederate flag has nothing to with outrage over treason. It's an example of the power of black activism. Nothing else. In some ways, the American flag is becoming the new Confederate flag.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 21 11:57:58 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 09:48:58 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I have never seen it on reruns. In that not that I didn't watch it but that I didn't see it come on. It must have been entirely gone by 1990, or during weird hours on specialty cable channels.
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Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Feb 21 11:58:38 2012, in response to Re: NASCAR Bans the General Lee, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 21 09:53:04 2012.* edf40wrjww2msgDetailOT:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d And I've already pointed out how out of context it won't be seen that way.
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