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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:29:37 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 18 14:24:33 2011.

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All I said was that in Roman times there could have been more (genotypical) non-heterosexual men. In fact, many were strict homosexuals and that led Rome to experience a serious population decline.

It is my suspicion that the societal acceptance of same sex behavior in Greek and Roman times may have led the trait to the trait being bred out (as it was possible for gay men to not marry and reproduce) which coupled with the suffusion of German genes may have reduced the trait to its current levels after the Empire fell.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:32:13 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:50:47 2011.

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I am inclined to dispute both his fact and yours. But first can you clarify? Do you actually mean that people that identify as homosexual have higher than average income?

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 14:33:34 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:45:55 2011.

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If a society frowns upon homosexuality, homosexuals just pretend to fit in. Sex needn't involve love for reproductive purposes, we're not cylons.

Not really. My high school was a pretty homophobic one, but the few "feminine" gays that came out of the closet went all out. It's a wonder how I didn't grow to be homophobic either, my household was homophobic, my schools were homophobic, most of my friends are homophobic, cheers to free thinking and defying what JayMan's racist statistics say I'm supposed to think.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:33:38 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed May 18 14:05:01 2011.

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Your description of homosexuality as an "abnormal", "Medical consition" that can be "cured" exposes a great deal about your attitudes towards gays and lesbians.


DUDE, don't you know what "" mean when in a statement. WHERE did I say that ANY Of those things are what I believe. Reading comprehension my friend. I SAID that if a tangible MEDICAL reason can be found, such as a GENE that causes it, it can be ARGUED that this "abnormal" gene (DO I HAVE to point out the quotes???) can be "cured" (DO I have to point out the quotes?

What, exactly, do you feel is wrong, or "abnormal" about us?

I didn't SAY you were "abnormal" (AGAIN, do I have to point out the QUOTES?). And may I also point out that "abnormal" doesn't necessarily mean "bad". ABnormal, means "against" the "norm". The NORM (majority) is Heterosexual. You first off, have a reading comprehension problem on what I said, and second, you take offense way too easily as you READ things INTO things, things you read into statements, because you are forever on the lookout for things to be "offended" or "outraged" about.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:34:55 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 14:10:48 2011.

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Heh.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:35:29 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 13:21:21 2011.

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That's exactly what I meant. Not that I advocate it.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:37:48 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:27:35 2011.

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Dude (SMH):

Are you going to tell me that evolution is not a fact now? Facts are observations about the world based on evidence. They can be as banal as "a tree begins as a seed" or as complex as smoking causes lung cancer. In the case of homosexuality THERE IS A GREATER CONCORDANCE OF HOMOSEXUALITY IN MZ TWINS COMPARED TO DZ TWINS (REARED TOGETHER AND APART) IN A LARGE SAMPLE OF ALL TWINS IN ONE COUNTRY. I don't know how much plainer it can be for you. A theory is a comprehensive explanation of the facts. That genes give rise to behavioral traits is a fact. Behavioral genetic theory (and others) explain those facts. The concept is no less factual because of it.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:37:53 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:15:16 2011.

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Men can be categorized as gay or straight based on their physical reactions

Bull. And for the 6th or 7th time you posted the same bile, it doesn't make it more "factual" the more you post it.
No one can determine that a person got an erection BECAUSE of what he is seeing. Someone can get erections just in a moment because of the sexuality of a situation, not necessarily because what they are seeing "make them aroused".

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:40:19 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:20:05 2011.

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The point I was making is that homosexuality, as trait, is neither detrimental to the human species nor to the homosexuals themselves as a group apparently, as the trait is still going strong. In fact, in the former case quite the opposite may be true.


??? The fact that the world's population is 7 million has NOTHING to do with the fact that a fraction of that population is "homosexual", or that a fraction of the ancestors of that population were "homosexual".

That was what I meant. But until that choice changes whites will dwindle, fast.


No, you were claiming there was a PHYSICAL reason that whites reproduce less, when in fact it's a societal reason.


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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:41:05 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:15:16 2011.

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So do you agree that the Czech "phallometric" test has a scientific basis?

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:41:50 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:28:51 2011.

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In a way, yes. Dominance seeking and ethnocentrism, even the more extreme forms such as overt racism and genocide, are based in human nature. This doesn't mean that these things are good, but all manner of ugly things are perfectly in tune with human nature. Something natural doesn't have to be good (quite often isn't), and to believe that they do need to be is the naturalistic fallacy.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:42:58 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:32:13 2011.

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It is possible that it is just an identification thing.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:47:09 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:42:58 2011.

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That's what I think. It would make sense that higher IQ gays are more successful and run in more enlightened circles that allow them to more easily identify as gay and it would be the opposite for lower IQ gays.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:48:29 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:37:53 2011.

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The facts are there. If you don't want to accept reality, that's up to you. That doesn't change it, however.

No one can determine that a person got an erection BECAUSE of what he is seeing. Someone can get erections just in a moment because of the sexuality of a situation, not necessarily because what they are seeing "make them aroused".

The consistency of the pattern makes that highly unlikely (good old Occam's Razor)...

You do know the difference between proof and absolute proof, right? No, I can't prove that Satan and his minions aren't making the guy sitting in phallometric machine have an erection to the gay porn to trick us into thinking he's gay. But in science we discard such silly notions when the evidence reaches a certain degree of confidence and regard something as FACT.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:53:45 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:40:19 2011.

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The fact that the world's population is 7 million has NOTHING to do with the fact that a fraction of that population is "homosexual", or that a fraction of the ancestors of that population were "homosexual"

I wouldn't say that, exactly (you know what the post is by now), but apparently the traits that lead to homosexuality also boost the reproductive success of their female relatives.

No, you were claiming there was a PHYSICAL reason that whites reproduce less, when in fact it's a societal reason.

Everything is ultimately physical, as our brains are ultimately physical.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:54:57 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:41:05 2011.

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It does. The morality of it in how the Czechs used it is a separate issue.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:55:46 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:47:09 2011.

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Quite possible. Another avenue to research.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 15:52:03 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:15:16 2011.

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Men can be categorized as gay or straight based on their physical reactions

LOL . . . they would have loved you in Communist Czechoslovakia.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 15:53:31 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:05:55 2011.

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Wonder who is inviting all the clowns to the party, eh? Might be duplicate handle for the usual clowns.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 15:55:17 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:29:37 2011.

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LOL, "bred out". Is that what your Lord Satan told you to say?

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:13:53 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:41:50 2011.

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Please.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:16:32 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:54:57 2011.

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It does.

LOL.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 16:17:02 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:41:50 2011.

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LOL, you blew it. The "naturalistic fallacy" is not a fallacy.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 16:17:57 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:54:57 2011.

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It does

LOL, can't wait for you to show us how, tovarishch . . .

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 16:27:05 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 16:17:57 2011.

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That could be taken a couple of ways, and not necessarily good...

But men do respond reliably to these devices based on their sexual preferences, as explained in my post about sexual orientation. I'm not actually going to show you how...

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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 16:43:43 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 16:27:05 2011.

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men do respond reliably to these devices based on their sexual preferences

Oh, KIO.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:51:21 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by AlM on Wed May 18 14:18:35 2011.

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From most of the gays I know, they didn't have to "realize" they were gay. Most have said they "knew" they were gay from a young age already. Some DO try to live a "normal" (there's quote marks there JayZee) life, but when reality sets in, they can't pretend they are something they aren't, and that's when your "realize they are gay" sets in, but it's something they probably knew all along.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:52:20 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:23:27 2011.

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Your "evidence" is not fact.
I am not disputing that people are born gay, they don't "become" gay, but that doesn't mean it's genetics, nor hereditary.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:54:57 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:29:37 2011.

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All I said was that in Roman times there could have been more (genotypical) non-heterosexual men.

Statistically it was probably the same, the difference was that it was accepted, whereas now many people lead a double life, and try and live a "normal" life.

It is my suspicion that the societal acceptance of same sex behavior in Greek and Roman times may have led the trait to the trait being bred out (as it was possible for gay men to not marry and reproduce)

False. That's still possible today, and happens all the time.



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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:56:16 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:37:48 2011.

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False. I even know two identical twins who in turn, one was gay, and the other heterosexual. Same genes.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:58:02 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Easy on Wed May 18 14:32:13 2011.

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Many have more income, but that also is because they have different lifestyles, and less of the expenses that a family (and women) bring.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:59:37 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed May 18 14:33:34 2011.

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This probably explains why either consciously or unconsciously you claim you have "no idea" what good looking guy means.

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Posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 17:03:51 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:58:02 2011.

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Double income, no kids. That is if they're partnered.

your pal,
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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 17:08:13 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:52:20 2011.

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Like I said, if you want to ignore reality, feel free.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 17:08:38 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:53:45 2011.

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I wouldn't say that, exactly (you know what the post is by now), but apparently the traits that lead to homosexuality also boost the reproductive success of their female relatives.

You really are taking this hypothesis as "fact", and that's where your problem lies.

Everything is ultimately physical, as our brains are ultimately physical.

It's societal, not physical.

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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 17:09:59 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:54:57 2011.

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>>>All I said was that in Roman times there could have been more (genotypical) non-heterosexual men.

Statistically it was probably the same, the difference was that it was accepted, whereas now many people lead a double life, and try and live a "normal" life.


Maybe. Maybe not.

>>>It is my suspicion that the societal acceptance of same sex behavior in Greek and Roman times may have led the trait to the trait being bred out (as it was possible for gay men to not marry and reproduce)

False. That's still possible today, and happens all the time.


Possibly. We don't know if the frequency of the trait is changing.

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Posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 17:12:55 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:56:16 2011.

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If you bothered to read the evidence I posted, it notes that genes only explain 50% of the variance, i.e., there is a 50% concordance between MZ twins. There is a considerable non-genetic component. One appears to the factors associated with the uterine environment (specifically, antigens mothers produce against androgens), but I suspect the bulk of the rest is due to developmental noise (the same reason MZ twins have different fingerprints).

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 17:13:51 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 17:12:55 2011.

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Both twins were in the same womb, both twins were brought up in the same household, and went to the same schools.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 17:44:17 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 17:13:51 2011.

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There's no way to determine by his pseudoscientific means. Tegan and Sara, the Canadian "indie" musicians, are lesbian identical twins, for example.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 17:55:56 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 17:13:51 2011.

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Which he covered in the post you're responding to.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:04:15 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:03:44 2011.

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I don't mind having this discussion. Genetic engineering of humans is 100% moral and justified.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:04:54 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:04:43 2011.

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"I think" is just a way of sounding humble.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:07:38 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 16:13:53 2011.

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So you just dismiss information that conflicts with your worldview without considering it?

If nature isn't what society is based on, then what is? What do you think is the genesis of society?

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:07:57 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 18 16:17:02 2011.

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LOL!

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:10:08 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:08:51 2011.

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I was merely pointing out that what we don't know is because we haven't learned it, not because we can't know. I simply took his argument as true for the sake of making a philosophical one.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Fred G on Wed May 18 18:10:13 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:04:15 2011.

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I might need engineering for some bridgework and a revamp of the EU Stachian Tube.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:13:01 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed May 18 14:33:38 2011.

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He has trouble with reading comprehension.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:15:01 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:06:20 2011.

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That doesn't make sense to me. Correlation doesn't imply causation.

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Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality''

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 18 18:16:31 2011, in response to Re: Czech Republic using ''phallometric tests'' to check asylum seekers for ''homosexuality'', posted by JayMan on Wed May 18 14:20:05 2011.

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But you also said that higher IQ people have a lower sex drive and are more conscientious. That lowers reproduction.

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SubChat using "phallometric tests'' to check Olog-hai for ''sanity''

Posted by RockParkMan on Wed May 18 18:42:15 2011, in response to Czech Republic using "phallometric tests" to check asylum seekers for "homosexuality", posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 17 23:11:24 2011.

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Nude pix of lovely Frau Heidi Klum and Fraulein Julia Stegner -- will they make Olog hard?

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