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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 19:25:12 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 19:21:26 2011.

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Like Donald Trump. :)

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by johnl on Thu Apr 28 19:25:49 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 28 16:00:49 2011.

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I have to agree.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 28 19:27:45 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 12:33:16 2011.

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??? A naturalized citizen, as well as a natural born citizen can get a passport. The point?

A naturalized citizen would not submit a birth certificate. They would submit naturalization papers.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by johnl on Thu Apr 28 19:33:24 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 19:09:51 2011.

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I disagree, and I don’t think it’s a case of glass half-full, glass half-empty. I think Obama’s heart is in the right place, but there is something of Jimmy Carter in him.

What we got:

TARP watered down with tax cuts.

DADT repealed. (Good!)

Overseas piracy, minor, really.

Recovery of Wall Street: Wall Street would have found a way to do this itself. Believe me.

SALT. OK, but again minor.

Healthcare: got something passed, but much less than it should be. Still pissing away tons of money to insurance company profits. No single-payer option. No flat fee per patient for primary care. No diluting the special interest of the AMA.

No jobs. No jobs. No jobs. Did I say no jobs. Unemployment is only going down because people are giving up.

The President of the United States is in a unique position to use his office as a bully pulpit and get the message out to the people. I think candidate Obama was very good at this. President Obama capitulated.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 19:37:34 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 28 16:00:49 2011.

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That's exactly what happened. I said in 2008 that Obama sounds great, but when he's done speaking, he didn't say anything. I knew he wasn't a leader, but I never imagined he would be even worse than I was expecting.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by johnl on Thu Apr 28 19:39:59 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 17:21:30 2011.

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Not much to talk about currently. He had slightly more hair younger, but it appears that all the amusing photos of Obama with a huge Afro are fakes.

Written by someone who shaves his head because the results otherwise would be comical.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 19:42:49 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by johnl on Thu Apr 28 19:33:24 2011.

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Gas prices:
1/20/08 $1.86
4/28/11 $4.19


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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 19:43:38 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 19:25:12 2011.

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I'm surprise they don't consider HIM a sissy. Haven't heard him grunt yet. :)

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 28 19:45:35 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 19:05:02 2011.

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It's not gonna be a revelation. It's gonna be a series of events.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 19:45:39 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 19:42:49 2011.

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That's because the dollar is worthless. When we brought back the republicans last November, the rest of the world pulled its money out knowing that we wouldn't be able to raise taxes to pay our bills.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 19:46:44 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 19:43:38 2011.

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Remember when Berkeley Breathed put Donald Trump's brain into Bill The Cat in the old Bloom County strip?

Imagine what ol' Berke could have done with Trump and the whole "birther" mess today! LOL!

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 19:51:14 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 19:45:39 2011.

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The GOP still feverishly protects the rich from higher taxes, (their biggest benefactors), and meanwhile, we're still not servicing our debt, something else Obama has been fighting the Republicans on...

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 19:53:58 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SMAZ on Thu Apr 28 18:48:20 2011.

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Michael Dukakis was elected president?

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 19:55:56 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 28 19:27:45 2011.

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I wasn't the one that brought up "it was good enough to get him a passport".

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by johnl on Thu Apr 28 20:06:59 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 28 12:48:27 2011.

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But how do you know that?

And, no, Obama couldn’t just ask for a long-form birth certificate and get one. This was a special deal, and required a waiver from Hawaii’s Director of Health. See the correspondence.

I wonder if a factor may well have been the disruption to Hawaii State Department of Health personnel and departmental resources.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 28 20:10:49 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Apr 28 12:50:01 2011.

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This is all about why Obama sat on a document for three years that would have removed any doubt amongst open minded Americans of any political persuasion.

Making things up again. Looks like he only received a copy of the detailed certificate in the last week. Or do you think that now he is forging letters from lawyers?


http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-correspondence.pdf




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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 20:12:01 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 19:42:49 2011.

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What does that have to do with Obama?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 20:13:42 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 20:12:01 2011.

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Nothing, but Bush was blamed for the last time the gas prices went up, so figured if it was Bush's fault then, Obama "must" have something to do with it now.


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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by r30a on Thu Apr 28 20:14:15 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 27 19:33:12 2011.

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Only recently did his parents close friend become governor. Not hard to connect the dots.


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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 20:15:32 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 20:13:42 2011.

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LOL not that again!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:22:23 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 19:46:44 2011.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:24:25 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 19:51:14 2011.

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The whole republican thing is a "Dying America" that only THEY can save with more of what Bush did ... and people somehow believe this nonsense. Now if these advocates of a dead America were democrats instead, there'd be hangings. But it's OK if republicans do it. :-\

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:28:58 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by r30a on Thu Apr 28 20:14:15 2011.

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Yep ... now it's out there and the chumps STILL aren't happy and squealing even louder. Heh.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 20:31:00 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:22:23 2011.

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Only see a red "x" there. :(

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 28 20:31:14 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 19:55:56 2011.

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Stop being dumb.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 20:31:50 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 20:15:32 2011.

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America is boned. Bush is where?



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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 20:33:10 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:24:25 2011.

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In the meantime, we're drowning in GOP-mandated red ink, compounded daily...and we're so distracted by Trump and the Birthers, we're allowing it to happen, which is exactly what Obama was complaining about on the telly yesterday!

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:37:05 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 20:31:00 2011.

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Fixed! :)



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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:38:01 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 20:31:50 2011.

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Yep ... and it's STILL the gift that keeps on giving. WHO trashed the economy? Hint: Wasn't Obama ...

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 20:39:04 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:37:05 2011.

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Yup yup! That's what Trump said on John King yesterday! :)

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:43:36 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 20:33:10 2011.

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They want him to fail, no matter WHAT it does to the rest of us. THEIR money is offshore and so what happens to us won't harm a (remaining) hair on their heads. Meanwhile, these idiots are all in favor of their own destruction. Wow. :(

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:44:33 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 20:39:04 2011.

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And Bill the cat is even sporting a Trump doo! :)

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 20:48:51 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 17:17:12 2011.

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You're asking for empirical evidence?? Holy shit...

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 20:55:59 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 16:43:08 2011.

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>>>>>Now if you don't like Obama's monetary policy, his lack of balls, or any of the other genuine grievances, you can talk about those freely and never make it racist because you are talking about the issues

Yeah, you know how detractors always stick to the issues. Monica Lewinsky was the issues too with Clinton, that must also have been "racist".


Yes, that's the point that I think many were missing when they are saying that ALL of the irrational hubbub over Obama is about race; let's not forget that the Republicans were already on a massive campaign to discredit Clinton when Monica fell from the dark heavens into their laps; the Republicans, at least as of late, think all Democratic presidencies are illegitimate.

That said, some of the vitriol hurled at Obama is because he is black, but it is on top of the larger fact that he is a Democrat.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 20:57:15 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 16:50:12 2011.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:58:53 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 20:55:59 2011.

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And like Nixon's "southern strategy," dog whistles of racism are cheap advertising to that crowd ... look at how well Jesse Helms used it over the years ...

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 20:59:01 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 17:15:59 2011.

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I can see that. Obama definitely lacks Bush's blind unshakable conviction...

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Apr 28 21:00:56 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 20:58:53 2011.

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Wait 'til we have to hock The USS Ronald Reagan to China to pay for those STUPID tax cuts and the Iraqi MISadventure.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 21:08:05 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 19:09:51 2011.

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I see the liberal circle jerk has begun. I'll just sit back and let you guys jerk each other off.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 21:08:12 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Apr 28 21:00:56 2011.

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Well .. in about two weeks from now when our GOP friends default on the debt, they'll just take it. No hocking required ... but hey, at least the republicans can take pride in the fact that they got that birth certificate.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 28 21:26:48 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 21:08:05 2011.

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Running away from the truth doesn't make it any less true.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 21:41:56 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 20:59:01 2011.

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Thankfully. I prefer a guy who takes his foot off the gas when all you see is brick wall in the windshield.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 21:49:20 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 20:59:01 2011.

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Yup - gotta love that obama doll. Wind it up and it'll do nothing for 4 years.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 22:12:51 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 20:48:51 2011.

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Do you have any or is "Holy Shit" the sum total of your education?

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 28 22:16:59 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 28 16:16:29 2011.

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The birth certificate was nothing more than a pathetic effort to try to invalidate Obama's Presidency and try to prevent him from having the opportunity to get re-elected and/or defeated in 2012.

The GOP was so afraid of him winning re-election again that they had to figure out some quick fix solution to try to prevent him from appearing on the ballot. When that didn't work, they're going to try to go for the academic records.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 28 22:27:56 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 16:45:06 2011.

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Republicans and Democrats are both Americans so I don't know what that has to do with anything. Why did you assume that I was referring to Republicans?

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 28 22:30:34 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 17:17:12 2011.

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What's racist about it?

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 22:33:54 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Easy on Thu Apr 28 22:30:34 2011.

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Making an assumption that there is a racial component to an issue where one exists is in and of itself racist. If you assume that only white people do not believe that obama was born outside the US then you are making a statement based on race. Without the data to prove it, the statement is racist on its face. I'm certain that's not how you meant it!

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 22:40:59 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 21:41:56 2011.

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Me too!

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Easy on Thu Apr 28 22:46:31 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 22:33:54 2011.

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Ok, but it would be interesting to see the statistics of who makes up the birthers. I doubt that there are many blacks and I hope that it's not racist to say that.

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