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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:07:33 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 27 20:11:14 2011.

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What does that have to do with anything? That's even less of an issue than this certificate nonsense.
Of course if you can't come up with anything better, you have to attack appearance.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:08:35 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 27 13:43:56 2011.

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Oh please, you and your racial crap again.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:12:40 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 27 12:06:48 2011.

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It's all Bush's fault.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:13:54 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 27 12:59:23 2011.

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Yes, I said that plenty of times here already, and even ended the comment with 'case closed" afterwards, every time.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:15:47 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 27 13:14:03 2011.

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Obama didn't lie or do anything wrong, however he ALLOWED this nonsense to fester for three years, ever since the Democrats first brought this issue up in the primaries. Of course, the Democrats the usual hypocrites that they are, dropped it immediately once he became their candidate and didn't need to use it anymore.
Then the Republicans ran with it. Obama allowed it to progress.

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Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 28 03:17:53 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:13:54 2011.

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Obama's eligibility/birth certificate will never end. It's a conspiracy theory like UFO's, JFK, 9/11, and three books are being released in the next two weeks about Obama. Even when he leaves office this conspiracy will continue.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 03:25:02 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:15:47 2011.

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Didn't realize Obama ran the republican party. Learn something new every day here. LOL/

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Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 28 03:27:01 2011, in response to Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 02:03:39 2011.

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Oh. I was going to guess that it was the racial makeup of your county or zip code, or immediate neighborhood, but I know better.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:35:00 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 03:25:02 2011.

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Who said he did? I said the Republicans ran with it. Don't know what that has to do with "Obama running anything". He allowed it to fester, as he didn't do what he did yesterday right away, even when the Democrats began this controversy.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 04:02:40 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:35:00 2011.

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Heh. Blaming Obama for what the republicans continue to twirl. Good stuff! :)

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 04:05:14 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 04:02:40 2011.

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Obama was wrong when the democrats (the ones that supported other candidates) were spinning this nonsense against him in the primaries too...

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 04:18:22 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 04:05:14 2011.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 04:50:07 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 27 10:21:14 2011.

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LOL!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 05:15:54 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 27 13:05:25 2011.

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Quit spinning this and blaming Obama; he presented ample proof that he was born in the USA and was vetted prior to Inauguration. The birthers were over the top ridiculous in their demand.

If the birthers suddenly found themselves in a world where they had to present a certified birth certificate to prove their identity they'd be screaming bloody murder.

I said from the beginning and still believe that when objectionable people present you with unreasonable demands you do not give them what they want.

your pal,
Fred


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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Apr 28 05:19:45 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 27 13:05:25 2011.

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There was no legit reason for not releasing the birth certificate

There was no legit reason for releasing it either.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 05:20:48 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 27 16:06:09 2011.

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Look how the resident Einsteins run away from the whole birth issue now that it's been diffused. Now it's Obama's fault because he didn't cave in to their demands right away.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 05:21:47 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by TonyG on Wed Apr 27 22:32:24 2011.

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It's so they can hissy over every C and D. I agree with the tone and content of Spider-Pig's post.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 28 05:26:24 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 27 13:14:03 2011.

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Yes, Obama did release the short-form from the beginning.

I think the vast majority of Americans have their original, like I do. Asking the President to release the long-form was no big deal. Just like people asked Bush for his military records and school records, and got them thanks to Dan Rather and The New York Times, the American public can thank Trump for getting Obama to release the long form.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 28 05:27:21 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 05:20:48 2011.

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And people wonder why I come here for entertainment instead of the talking lamp. :)

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 28 06:33:31 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 27 20:15:09 2011.

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ADREESS THE POINT YOU FUCKING DICKHEAD, TROLL, SCUMBAG.

i feel better now , whew

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 28 06:41:45 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 27 20:11:14 2011.

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I wish I had one of those things that's on trumps head. Looks like it do a better job than anything I could buy to mop my floors with.

JUST THINK.....It' the TRUMP magic mop it cleans up everything....and it's only $0.95. But wait...order now and you'll get not one but 2 more for free. Just add shipping and handling to help trump get his latest company out of chapter 11.

LOLOLOLOL




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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 28 06:42:56 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by bingbong on Wed Apr 27 20:11:14 2011.

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meh, deflecting and obfuscation.....luchs way of life

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 28 06:55:16 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Apr 27 11:36:50 2011.

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bump

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 28 06:57:09 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Railman718 on Wed Apr 27 11:39:01 2011.

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But he has to take off his tinfoil hat 1st. Also take his head out of his AMradio ass.... lol

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Re: Hey, douche-AAA..Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 28 06:59:41 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Apr 27 12:06:42 2011.

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So you want trump to become president so you can see him impeached?
You're almost as stupid as duchAAA

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 08:27:06 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Apr 28 06:42:56 2011.

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You mean, something like this... :)

http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=771484

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 08:35:55 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 03:08:35 2011.

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What "racial crap"? This "birther" nonsense is a thinly veiled, carefully coded way of delegitimizing Obama's presidency bu perpetuating the meme that "something is not quite right" with Obama, without actually saying "there's something wrong with a black President".

Fear of black males is a centuries-old prejudice in this country, as evidenced by postings here such as "employers see black males as threatening and dangerous". There are a LOT of people out there who are uncomfortable with a man of color in the White House, let alone having a man of color living next door to them, and this campaign to make Obama look "ineligible", or "unfit" plays to that.

Even you cannot be so blind as to fail to grasp this.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 08:44:53 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 08:35:55 2011.

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What "racial crap"? This "birther" nonsense is a thinly veiled, carefully coded way of delegitimizing Obama's presidency bu perpetuating the meme that "something is not quite right" with Obama, without actually saying "there's something wrong with a black President".

Again, "Oh Please". Everything is racial with you and activists like you. It wasn't racist when they were asking for Bush's grades to be released, or when they were calling him a monkey, but of course if anyone tries the same NONSENSE on "The Messiah", and his holiness Obama, it's "racist".

Fear of black males is a centuries-old prejudice in this country, as evidenced by postings here such as "employers see black males as threatening and dangerous".

Oh PAH-leeese!!

There are a LOT of people out there who are uncomfortable with a man of color in the White House, let alone having a man of color living next door to them, and this campaign to make Obama look "ineligible", or "unfit" plays to that.

I don't like the way Obama is leading as president, and it has nothing to do with his race. And my neighbor is Black, BTW before you start that BS.

Even you cannot be so blind as to fail to grasp this.

"Even me"? I don't know what exactly that means.




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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 09:03:19 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 08:44:53 2011.

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You are entitled to dislike Obama's leadership, but there is too much history in this country of high-achieving black men having their accomplishments called into question. Look at how some are now suggesting that Obana got into Harvard on something less than merit. There was a right-wing site that screamed yesterday, "Now let's see the college grades". As for Bush, he opened the door to scrutiny of his academic records when he started boasting about being a "C student" who had "A" students working for him. It also seemed strange that a man who could not speak coherently in the English language, could have matriculated at, much less graduated from, not one, but two Ivy League schools.

Of course, Bush's entrance exam for Harvard consisted of one question: "Was your grandfather Prescott Bush, a trustee and major benefactor of this university"?

When, in the last 100 years, has any sitting President been asked to prove his citizenship, after vetting by the Election Board, after producing the correct and appropriate documentation during his campaign, and after the Governor of his home state verified said documents? Why such extreme measures for Obama, and Obama only?

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 28 09:06:06 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Apr 28 05:19:45 2011.

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IAWTP.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 28 09:06:08 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Apr 28 05:19:45 2011.

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IAWTP.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 28 09:07:51 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 28 05:26:24 2011.

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It doesn't matter. Obama released what he was legally required to and what many Americans ALSO have. He satisfied the requirement. The case should've been closed there.

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Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 09:20:11 2011, in response to Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 28 03:17:53 2011.

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Here's Orly Taitz, the character that started it all. Offered an opportunity to address the birth certificate--a document she's been screaming about for three years--Taitz instead gets on her trusty steed Tangent. She rants about Obama's "Selective Service" documents, rather than answering O'Donnell's direct, yes-or-no question about Obama's "long-form" birth certificate:



IMHO, O'Donnell rightly gets fed up with her evasiveness, and kicks her off his show.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 09:35:34 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Apr 27 13:43:56 2011.

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How, then was Obama able to graduate Magna Cum Laude, which requires a cumulative GPA of 3.8 or better?

I'm sick of this "black tax" nonsense, wherein high-achieving blacks have everything about them called into question, as opposed to similarly high-achieving whites. It seems that blacks who succeed must jump through hoops no one else does, and "verify" their grades, credentials, or even birthplaces, to justify their achievements.


I agree. But this is one of the side effects of affirmative action, even though in this case it's patently ridiculous.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 09:36:31 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 28 05:26:24 2011.

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Got stats for that "vast majority"? Main reason I ask is I think it's a minority of people who have an old style birth cert.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 09:44:43 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 09:03:19 2011.

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You are entitled to dislike Obama's leadership, but there is too much history in this country of high-achieving black men having their accomplishments called into question. Look at how some are now suggesting that Obana got into Harvard on something less than merit.

Of course, it can't be the usual and typical political nonsense, and instead, since he happens to be Black, it's "racist. So that means Obama is untouchable, as if he's subjected to the same crap all the other presidents were.

When, in the last 100 years, has any sitting President been asked to prove his citizenship

Obama was one of the few (in recent times anyway) that while born here lived in another country for years in his childhood. He is also one of the few (in recent times) to be born to a citizen, as well as a non citizen from a foreign country, who also hadn't lived here.
Furthermore, McCain was involved in a similar controversy, the only difference he wasn't elected president so no one cares.

Why such extreme measures for Obama, and Obama only?

"Because he's Black of course".....rolls eyes.

All the presidents were put through utter crap, depending on their circumstances, etc. And they ALL have different circumstances. Why would Bush have been put through all this, his background was much more apparent than Obama's. But he had his own crap he was put through.
Clinton also had a clear background, but look at the shit they put him through. Imagine Obama had an affair with an intern, if they put him through the same crap as Clinton, it would of course be "racist - trying to prove "the black man" can't be monogamous or faithful and the crap", or some SHIT like that from people like you who just love to manufacture racism whenever they can.





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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 09:45:18 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 27 19:20:06 2011.

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It's not the criticism. It's what the criticism is based on.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 09:48:50 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 27 20:57:55 2011.

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I think Trump is going to surge in the polls, as he now has massive street cred as the man who got the President to release his birth certificate. He got Obama to blink without even being in a stare contest.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 09:53:30 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by TonyG on Thu Apr 28 09:06:06 2011.

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Releasing it earlier would have prevented all the shit from taking form, as it wouldn't have been shrouded in a cloak of secrecy. Of course though, then they wouldn't have been able to claim "racism" and all the other shit if they didn't let it go on this long.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 09:57:22 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 09:48:50 2011.

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Maybe they had a deal worked out.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 09:59:56 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 09:53:30 2011.

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It was only a "cloak of secrecy" to those who don't understand the relationship between types of birth certificate copies.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 10:14:00 2011, in response to Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Apr 28 09:20:11 2011.

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FALSE. It was started by the DEMOCRATS during the primary in 2008. This was originally on the Hillary Clinton website:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2082242/posts

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 10:19:32 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 09:59:56 2011.

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Maybe so, but Obama knew he could put it to rest right away if he would have just done this sooner, if he really wanted the "distraction" to go away.

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Apr 28 10:23:14 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 09:36:31 2011.

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Got stats for that "vast majority"? Main reason I ask is I think it's a minority of people who have an old style birth cert.

Yup; I'd say the "vast majority" don't have it. Mine is a laminated wallet card issued in 1992.

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Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 28 10:46:50 2011, in response to Re: Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 10:14:00 2011.

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WOW and we do know which OTChatter from you know where contributed to the Hillary campaign

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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by Fred G on Thu Apr 28 10:48:06 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 10:19:32 2011.

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The onus was and is on the birthers to stop the nonsense tho, since they were wrong. Obama didn't do anything wrong here. Not giving them what they demanded was telling them they could pound sand, a logical tact in a situation like this.

your pal,
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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 28 10:58:57 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 27 21:43:18 2011.

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That's what happens when you believe what you read on blogs.

Conceivably something got removed, like Dean's list information. But obviously not grades.



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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 28 11:01:18 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Apr 27 13:39:32 2011.

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Well, they are hiding his grades.

Hey, you can't find out my grades from college and graduate school either. You might be able to make some estimates based on other information that is publicly available, but that's all.




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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 28 11:03:23 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Apr 28 09:44:43 2011.

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Bush never had a guy claiming he was thinking of running for president (and doing well in polls, no less) question his grades. It was just random left wing Democrats who wanted to make Bush look stupid.


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Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate

Posted by AlM on Thu Apr 28 11:04:02 2011, in response to Re: Hey, Luch...Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate, posted by JayMan on Thu Apr 28 09:48:50 2011.

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But now Trump doesn't have an issue any more.


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