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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 27 20:54:48 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 27 20:51:11 2011. You didn't comment enough for us to learn anything about you. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 20:55:40 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 20:43:17 2011. You have every right to feel that way, it's ridiculous. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 21:00:33 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Feb 27 19:56:52 2011. So are you pro choice or someone that imposes your views on other people? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 27 21:02:40 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 27 20:54:48 2011. Abortion is killing an unborn baby for sure. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Sun Feb 27 21:03:44 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 21:00:33 2011. So are you pro choice or someone that imposes your views on other people?Pro choice. I'm just having fun with words here. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 21:05:33 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 27 10:53:51 2011. And now apparently a pregnancy is the equivalent to a disease. Unbelievable. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 27 21:10:41 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 20:53:08 2011. I read that. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 27 21:11:36 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 21:05:33 2011. Considering some of the liberal here, I'd have to agree |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:11:38 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 27 20:12:38 2011. I don't because I don't believe a pre-viabilty fetus is a person.Therefore abortion is not murder let alone genocide. Also the conservative plank wants to cut off contraception, health care for infants and pregnant women, unregulate polluters and are against any kind of pro-family system of paid family and medical leave. They are a front for anti-family and anti-children goons looking to brainwash the feeble-minded masses. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Feb 27 21:13:29 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:11:38 2011. hahhahahah another dim-bulb moment? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 27 21:14:00 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:11:38 2011. IAWTP |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:24:30 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 21:05:33 2011. Actually, a pregnancy is a sexually transmitted disease. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 27 21:25:34 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:24:30 2011. wtf |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:29:38 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:11:38 2011. Also the conservative plank wants to cut off contraception, health care for infants and pregnant women, unregulate polluters and are against any kind of pro-family system of paid family and medical leave.Exactly. Which is why there should be encouragement to have them walk off their own plank in 2012. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:29:50 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 20:18:37 2011. The point at which I consider life beginning and you consider life beginning is immaterial here.Life and personhood are two different things. A tomato plant is life too. The question is: do you consider a one month old fetus to be a person? I am not a woman, therefore, I have NO RIGHT TO REGULATE WHAT WOMEN DO WITH THEIR BODIES. I'm not a woman either. Does that mean that when a woman kills another woman, it's none of my business? But, I am also a realist. I know that even if abortion became illegal, people would still try to find ways to abort their babies. Ways that would be more harmful to both the baby AND the mother. Therefore, I feel that if people are going to do it anyways (whether, in my mind, I feel it right or not) precautions need to be made to make the process as safe as possible, and therefore I feel that legalized abortions with the help of trained professionals is preferable. That's better reasoning but still unacceptable if someone considers a fetus to be an actual person. It's like saying that gangland murders are OK if done by professional hitmen rather than by coked-up teenagers because it's safer that way. It's not genocide, and calling it that is disrespectful to the people who have suffered from genocide. People who believe personhood begins at conception or shortly thereafter call it a genocide. That is one of the definitions of mass murder on such a scale. It also is different from the murder of someone post-birth as it's universally accepted morally that murder of any human being post-birth is morally WRONG. Your moral underpinnings should not be conditioned on what the majority feels but on what you think is right and wrong. The majority is often immoral and you should not feel obligated to go along with them when something is not just simply wrong but inherently evil. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:30:50 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 27 21:25:34 2011. It's a joke. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:33:40 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 20:43:17 2011. If we were having this discussion in person you would probably not be getting so agitated.Words that may seem accusatory and hostile in electronic form are often not so when actually talking to someone. Me and you would probably get along. Chris too. You both seem like good folks. I'm sure that you have these kinds of discussions with friends and family all the time without ripping each other's throats. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 27 21:33:49 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:30:50 2011. oh I see |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:35:17 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 20:50:35 2011. Just smack him and call him a disgratiata and you're done. :)HAHA! That's what I was doing but he took it personally. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 21:36:29 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:35:17 2011. It's a Sicilian thing. Plenty in da fambly here. :) |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:39:35 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:29:50 2011. Life and personhood are two different things. A tomato plant is life too.The question is: do you consider a one month old fetus to be a person? Good sarcastic comment thrown in there. Yes, I consider a one-month-old fetus to be a person. I'm not a woman either. Does that mean that when a woman kills another woman, it's none of my business? Men can't get pregnant, women can. That's better reasoning but still unacceptable if someone considers a fetus to be an actual person. It's like saying that gangland murders are OK if done by professional hitmen rather than by coked-up teenagers because it's safer that way. As I've stated before, the rules change after the baby was born (and also the later on in the pregnancy a woman gets). And, yes, I think gang murders done by professional hit men are better than done by coked-up teenagers because it IS safer that way. But any gang murder is wrong. People who believe personhood begins at conception or shortly thereafter call it a genocide. That is one of the definitions of mass murder on such a scale. I don't consider it to be genocide. And the point of this post is that YOU are arguing that I consider abortion to be murder. What other people call it is irrelevant in the context of your argument. Your moral underpinnings should not be conditioned on what the majority feels but on what you think is right and wrong. The majority is often immoral and you should not feel obligated to go along with them when something is not just simply wrong but inherently evil. They're not. Not once have I said that abortion was not wrong. I believe it is. I, however, do not feel that I should impose MY position on this issue upon other people. I don't think that there is anything wrong with gay marriage either. However, I'm not going to enter into a Catholic church, stand up on the altar, and tell everyone there that they need to allow gays to get married in the Church. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:41:31 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 20:27:48 2011. If people had stopped posting here because of the regular needling everyone gives each other, the board would have died a long time ago.Look at the shit some people have to put up with here. Some deserved. Some not. You are sounding like Forest Glen. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:45:07 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:33:40 2011. I feel the same way.And I'm positive that you and I would probably get along too. I don't know, ever since that post that you made about me going back on my boycott flying about a month or so ago, I -may- have been somewhat annoyed by it and am over-analyzing anything that you post that's the least bit contradictory to me. One of my best friends wrote THIS gem as a yelp review: This place is a f**king cesspool! I took my best friend here. She asked the Saturday night male bartendar for a drink. His response? "I can't help you because I don't have tits like you." When we complained to the female bartendars and calmly walked out, this filthy rat ran outside to confront us!!!! Thankfully her fiancee was the better person and walked away. Why we even ended up here was beyond me. This place smells like an effing dump and is full of low class degenerates! As Tucson progresses to become a better city with higher class options and a skyline, thede THROWBACKS HOLD TUCSON BACK! If you are a young woman and you LOVE being denigrated by FUGLY piece of sh*t bartendars, YOU WILL LOVE THIS PLACE! Otherwise, if like me you live in the 21st Century where women are more highly respected, you will crack open a bottle of champagne with me when the bulldozers finally knock this dilapitaded skidrow sphincter into oblivion! |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:45:32 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Feb 27 21:33:49 2011. Yeah. It's a very "off color" joke. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:46:33 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 21:36:29 2011. In my family, we seem to blow up at one another, hug, eat food, and then are merry. Until the next big argument comes again. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:48:19 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:41:31 2011. Speaking of which, he's back!You're right. However, beware! I'm going to be analyzing what you post to give you a little ribbing every now and then! :) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:07:23 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:39:35 2011. As I've stated before, the rules change after the baby was bornWhose rules? And the point of this post is that YOU are arguing that I consider abortion to be murder. Nope. YOU do. Right here in the very same post that I'm responding to: "Yes, I consider a one-month-old fetus to be a person." Is killing a person not murder? Not once have I said that abortion was not wrong. Littering a sidewalk is wrong but nobody would call it murder. If you believe that the deliberate killing of somebody that you consider to be a person should be even less punished than littering, than I stand by my statement that you are a moral relativist and I'm sorry if it offends you. You are not complicit with what I consider murder. You are complicit in what YOU consider it to be. As for gay marriage, nobody dies because Adam and Steve got married. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:10:27 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:45:07 2011. If you are a young woman and you LOVE being denigrated by FUGLY piece of sh*t bartendars, YOU WILL LOVE THIS PLACE!Otherwise, if like me you live in the 21st Century where women are more highly respected, you will crack open a bottle of champagne with me when the bulldozers finally knock this dilapitaded skidrow sphincter into oblivion! HAHA!! Sounds like the Main Board. OTChat is a Gentleman's Club in comparison. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 22:13:27 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:10:27 2011. Where the strippers at? :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 22:14:53 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:46:33 2011. Same thing when the Ferrante side shows up. But when they pick up the knives in the kitchen, we bring out the shooting irons from behind the sofa and suddenly ... we dance. :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:15:31 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:33:40 2011. Okay, you got me back with that post. I was seriously going to stop responding to your posts, but I cooled down, and I do agree with your last post here.Life's too short. Let's move on. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:15:46 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 21:48:19 2011. Speaking of which, he's back!He always does. I'm going to be analyzing what you post to give you a little ribbing every now and then! :) I look forward to it. Stay away from airports. TSA wants to grope you. The line about Texans being "the lowest form of white man" comes from a movie. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:16:21 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:07:23 2011. Whose rules?The eyes of the law. Nope. YOU do. Right here in the very same post that I'm responding to: "Yes, I consider a one-month-old fetus to be a person." Is killing a person not murder? Nope. Per dictionary.com: mur·der [mur-der] Show IPA –noun 1. Law . the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder). 2. Slang . something extremely difficult or perilous: That final exam was murder! 3. a group or flock of crows. –verb (used with object) 4. Law . to kill by an act constituting murder. 5. to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously. 6. to spoil or mar by bad performance, representation, pronunciation, etc.: The tenor murdered the aria. –verb (used without object) 7. to commit murder. —Idioms 8. get away with murder, Informal . to engage in a deplorable activity without incurring harm or punishment: The new baby-sitter lets the kids get away with murder. 9. murder will out, a secret will eventually be exposed. 10. yell / scream bloody murder, a. to scream loudly in pain, fear, etc. b. to protest loudly and angrily: If I don't get a good raise I'm going to yell bloody murder. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 27 22:17:58 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 21:33:40 2011. Sometimes the trick to getting along is to not discuss politics. Some people...many people...are way too uptight. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:18:28 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:15:31 2011. Yeah. I agree. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 22:18:29 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:15:31 2011. Watch the cloooooooooooosing doors, please ... boing-sproing ... |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:18:38 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 27 20:49:32 2011. A lot has been learned about a lot of people in this thread.Like what? Let's hear it. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:20:45 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 27 22:17:58 2011. Then what would OTChat be good for? Discussing underwater basket weaving. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:22:42 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:20:45 2011. Hahaha, while what he said is generally true...if it was true here, everyone would probably be ready to push eachother in front of a train if we ever saw eachother... :) |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Feb 27 22:25:21 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:20:45 2011. Oh here it's ok. I mean with friends and family. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:25:24 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 22:18:29 2011. This is more exciting:Female Voice: "This is a reef bound OT Chat Thread. The next station is irrational hatred." Male Voice: "Stand clear of the closing doors please." Beep Beep. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:27:30 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 27 22:25:21 2011. Yeah. I've had a few meals / events ruined due to discussing politics. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 22:27:53 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:20:45 2011. Oh shit ... I take it you don't come here through the home page for the site or you would have already known about Blubchat.
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:28:06 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:15:31 2011. If people didn't come here because of disagreements (trains, politics, food, circumcisions, etc) but have fun while doing so, this board would have become extinct.I doubt anybody comes here to get pissed off or to piss people off on purpose. Such people would be watching Fox News instead. I think we all knew what we were getting into when we decided to participate in a discussion about abortion of all things. The same can be said about threads about war, etc. It could have been worse: 
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:28:18 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by Easy on Sun Feb 27 22:25:21 2011. I rarely talk politics outside of SubChat. Regardless of what it may appear here, I am not that political, and really don't give it much thought. Perhaps this is like my outlet for it, as I don't think about it outside of here all that often.That said, it's not like it never comes up, but I know who I need to bite my tongue with and avoid the conversation. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:29:23 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:28:06 2011. What's that I see.Oh, wait, that's a $10 charge to pass through an "invisible line." |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:30:12 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:28:18 2011. I shouldn't. I had a discussion about politics with my brother this morning that scared the shit out of me. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:30:51 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Feb 27 22:27:53 2011. What happened? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:33:36 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 27 22:28:06 2011.  (nycsubway.org) |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Feb 27 22:33:43 2011, in response to Re: No.1 killer of blacks in NYC, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Feb 27 22:30:51 2011. He's 20. He was discussing about how when he turns 21 he wants to buy a gun before "the government prevents me from purchasing a gun." He also predicted that there will be armed uprisings throughout the United States in the not too distant future and that he would do whatever he needed to do to "protect himself." |
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