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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:56:53 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 27 23:41:35 2010. That's fine. Chinese aren't exempt in Arizona either. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:59:53 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:22:21 2010. They can be vocal about protecting Americans from harassment.There is no "harrassment" except in the leftist paranoia. And 7-% of Arizonians support this step up in regard to handling the situation. They can be vocal about actually creating laws to STOP the stem of illegals from Mexico. But they won't. Just like the Republicans did nothing, the Democrats do nothing on the federal level either in regard to this. They can be vocal about actual meaningful immigration reform. People on the left AND the right want "reform". Where many differ though is WHAT they will be vocal about in regard to reform. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:00:12 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:22:21 2010. They can be vocal about protecting Americans from harassment.There is no "harrassment" except in the leftist paranoia. And 70% of Arizonians support this step up in regard to handling the situation. They can be vocal about actually creating laws to STOP the stem of illegals from Mexico. But they won't. Just like the Republicans did nothing, the Democrats do nothing on the federal level either in regard to this. They can be vocal about actual meaningful immigration reform. People on the left AND the right want "reform". Where many differ though is WHAT they will be vocal about in regard to reform. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:00:52 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 23:26:12 2010. Correct. If the Democrats idea of "reform" is amnesty, they will have a lot against them. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:01:58 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:32:17 2010. It's not constitutionally deficient. What it does do is exactly what Arizona wants....attention drawn towards this SEVERE problem, which NEITHER party has addressed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:06:05 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 13:06:20 2010. 
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:07:19 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 28 00:51:01 2010. But for now, the republicans are completely batshit crazy, and democrats aren't far behind. Sure would like to see something else ...We agree a lot more than it would seem.... :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:08:27 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 28 04:02:59 2010. THE REPUKES are toast right now...their madness shows..just listen to the rants of the so called "independents" around here.. And the Demoncrats are just as mad. Look at the rants in reference to this Arizona thing. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:10:17 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Apr 28 04:19:58 2010. The real problem with our government is that BOTH parties are totally mad, as in totally crazy.You put the Republicans in, and they fuck everything up, so people get pissed off, and then you go to the other extreme....you put the Democrats in, and they fuck everything up, so people get pissed off, and then you go to the other extreme....and you are back at the beginning. We are currently in the second half of that paragraph. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:10:24 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:29:15 2010. So lets say..for the sake of argument....what should a cop do when he/she these 2 young ladies walking down the street? eh? what are they to "presume" now? eh?
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:11:55 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:56:53 2010. So what should the local cops do when they see they 2 young ladies arriving in their "one-horse" town? eh?
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:11:57 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by SMAZ on Wed Apr 28 13:03:20 2010. BOTH parties support illegal immigration, and BOTH refuse to do anything about it, as both want it, even if not publicly. The only difference is that they want it for different reasons. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:12:27 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 23:20:46 2010. EH??????????????? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:13:08 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Apr 28 13:17:50 2010. One of the reasons Democrats support it is that amnesty and allowing it increases their voter base. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:13:50 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 13:33:19 2010. Yes, she represents IMMIGRATION, as in LEGAL IMMIGRATION, not lawbreakers that sneak into our country. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Apr 28 14:14:52 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 13:59:53 2010. Now identify the step-up. I don't see any novel offenses created by this law. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 28 14:18:01 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 23:20:24 2010. And what will the libs message be? How vocal can they be about supporting ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION?Perhaps the biggest problem with the bill is that it will make illegal but otherwise law-abiding immigrants completely unwilling to report crimes or cooperate in criminal investigations out of fear of being prosecuted themselves. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:18:08 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 22:48:17 2010. Yes, it's gotten out of control. And the leftists here are confusing (purposely) "racism" and "Against ILLEGAL immigration to mean that people are against the illegals because of race, and trying to say that anyone who opposes the illegals are anti-immigration. That is FALSE.Just look right here, streetcar (who we can't take seriously anyway) posts a photo of the Statue of Liberty, implying that anyone agaijst these illegals is against "immigration" and "racist", and that is what many ont he left are doing. Since when is it bad to be against people that are breaking the law? What is so bad about wanting people to come here LEGALLY? I don't get it. Wanting immigrants to comply with the law is not being "anti-immigrant" or racist. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:22:20 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 23:22:00 2010. Two thirds of those in Arizona support the state's new law:http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/04/poll-most-az-voters-support-states-immigration-law/1 |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 28 14:22:57 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:18:08 2010. What is so bad about wanting people to come here LEGALLY?The decades and tens of thousands of dollars it takes to come here legally... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:23:13 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:25:13 2010. Perhaps, perhaps not, but that is not what you claimed, you claimed people don't support this. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:24:10 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:30:40 2010. there is the perception (and indeed the reality) that there are a lot of carjackings, Mexican gangs, crime, and violence caused by illegal immigration. Illegal immigration has caused a number of real problems in Arizona and does need to be cracked down upon.It's not a perception if it's reality, and it IS reality. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:25:06 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 28 02:27:17 2010. I think he did it sarcasticly. He is anti-illegal immigration. And again, notice I say "anti-ILLEGAL" immigration. Leftists instead use "anti-immigration" in their talking points. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 14:25:52 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:10:24 2010. No brainer. Most of people who wear burqas are legally in the country, so there's no reasonable suspicion. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:26:13 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 27 23:39:10 2010. Their will has been deemed irrelevent by the left, however so guess what?That's what the left does. Snow plow through whatever THEY want, regardless of people's will. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:30:04 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:40:37 2010. No, the poll is accurate. It's 64%, actually, which is about 2/3.http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_state_surveys/arizona/arizona_voters_favor_welcoming_immigration_policy_64_support_new_immigration_law Arizona Voters Favor Welcoming Immigration Policy, 64% Support New Immigration Law Wednesday, April 28, 2010 Like voters across the nation, most Arizona voters (57%) favor an immigration policy that welcomes all immigrants except “national security threats, criminals and those who would come here to live off our welfare system.” A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Arizona voters finds that just 27% oppose such a welcoming policy. At the same time, 76% say it is more important to gain control of the border than it is to legalize the status of undocumented workers. Only 19% believe it is more important to legalize the status of undocumented workers already in the country. These views, too, are consistent with national preferences. However, Arizona voters are a bit more focused on border control. In that environment, 64% of Arizona voters favor the new immigration law signed last week by Governor Jan Brewer. Thirty percent (30%) are opposed (see question wording). The law has sparked a national uproar but also has provided a significant bounce in the polls for the governor. (Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook. Thirty-six percent (36%) of Arizona voters are angry about the immigration situation. Another 25% say they’re frustrated, and 37% say immigration is just one of many issues they have an opinion on. Those who are angry are far more likely to be angry at the federal government than at immigrants seeking work. Eighty-five percent (85%) say they’re angry at the federal government, while only 10% express anger at immigrants. This is also similar to views held nationwide. Ninety-five percent (95%) of Arizona voters say they have followed news stories about the new law at least Somewhat Closely. That includes an astonishing 77% who have followed the news coverage Very Closely. Eighty-seven percent (87%) say the new legislation will be important in determining how they vote. That includes 65% who say it will be Very Important. Among those who consider the legislation very important in their voting decision, 67% favor the law, and 31% are opposed. By a 47% to 39% margin, Arizona voters believe the new law has had a negative impact on the state’s image. However, by a 44% to 37% margin, they believe it will be good for the state’s economy. Fifty five percent (55%) say they favor “authorizing local police to stop and check the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally.” That’s down from 70% two weeks ago. The decline could be the result of vocal opposition to the measure and massive media coverage surrounding the issue. It also could be due to the fact that, on the new survey, it was asked immediately after another question about the law signed last week by the governor. Some may have perceived that the question was asking about an additional law. Future polling will indicate whether support for the law is changing over time. Fifty-percent (50%) of Arizona voters are at least somewhat concerned that efforts to identify and deport illegal immigrants also will end up violating the civil rights of some U.S. citizens. That’s down slightly from 53% two weeks ago. Please sign up for the Rasmussen Reports daily e-mail update (it’s free) or follow us on Twitter or Facebook. Let us keep you up to date with the latest public opinion news. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:32:04 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 23:20:46 2010. "Either way most of the arrests will be Mexican/Hispanic. What else would it be in Arizona? Or any state in the US?"OMG.....are you kidding me? why stop with Mexicans? why focus on just them? do you have something against Mexicans in this country? wh? So if Pele is visiting AZ....should he had so concerned now? eh?  |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:32:15 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:29:18 2010. Meg Whitman, the Republican front-runner in the California gubernatorial primaryLOL, someone trying to win an election. Can you give us some actual representatives in office? And your statement was "Republicans in other states don't support it". Perhaps, but what does that mean? One republican in office in one state? 10 Republicans in office in 20 states? Who are these people? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:34:25 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Apr 27 23:39:50 2010. If only because that doesn't go after the root of the problem---my major opposition to it; I would support a measure going after the root of the problem.The root of the problem is that the federal government refuses to do anything to stop this. A start would be reclassifying being here illegally in and of itself as an IIRIRA-deportable offense, without another crime being needed. That's not under a state's jurisdiction. The federal government (which refuses to do anything for decades) would need to do that. Arizona is doing what it can, since the federal government isn't. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Apr 28 14:35:39 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Apr 26 22:22:47 2010. They don't have to be from the left though (or the right). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:36:35 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:41:49 2010. Yes...this law may have slightly delayed my re-location to Arizona.And how exactly? I am trying to wait for some of this hysteria to die down. Yes, the hysteria on the left. To quote some of the hysteria from leftists (using this place as an example), "what happens when a 9 year old kid is asked to show his birth certificate, but doesn't have it on him....streetcarman" |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 14:37:30 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 12:58:01 2010. "According to the Arizona immigration law, immigrants unable to produce documents showing they are allowed to be in the U.S. could be arrested, jailed for up to six months and fined $2,500."I suspect it won't happen that way. I doubt that's even in the law. If nothing else, it's an unclear statement. Does it apply to visitors too? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:38:55 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 23:17:35 2010. So then that means Liv Ullmann should never step foot in AZ. oh well...
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:39:01 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Apr 27 23:39:44 2010. But that is implying that Hispanics are also for illegal immigration. Rational, without liberal leftists spin knows that the issue is not "against Hispanics" or "Against immigration", the issue is being against ILLEGAL immigration, totally different entities, although the left loves to use talking points to try and say anyone against illegal immigrants are racist, anti-hispanic, and anti immigration.....three points that have absolutely nothing to do with LEGAL immigration. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:40:40 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 23:12:58 2010. But every country has a right to enforce immigration laws.And that's all it boils down to. The leftist talking points though try to make this racial, anti-hispanic, or anti-immigration (as opposed to anti-ILLEGAL immigration. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:43:00 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:06:05 2010. Well? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 28 14:44:32 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:40:40 2010. Well, the left(alm, alm, alm, WillD, Selbong, etc.......) are arguing that if our neighbor to the south was a white, English-speaking country, those immigrants would be welcomed with open arms. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:46:35 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:08:27 2010. Yea..I know....look at this Dem-o-crat Michael Bloomberg:From today's NYDAILYNEWS.COM: A new Arizona law requiring local police officers to stop anyone they might reasonably suspect of being here illegally may produce unintended consequences that could hurt not only Arizona, but all of America. The law is so vaguely written that it may force officers to stop people who look or dress differently - or who speak a foreign language, or English with an accent. Already, stories are appearing about foreign travelers crossing Arizona off their vacation lists. Who wants to visit the Grand Canyon if you could end up getting hassled by the police - or arrested - if you leave your passport at the hotel? Foreign business leaders may also think twice about visiting or investing in Arizona. While Arizona may suffer, as long as those visitors and investors still come to America, the country will be fine. In fact, we hope more of them come to New York, where we would welcome them with open arms. But if some of them stop visiting and investing in America, and if other states follow Arizona's lead - as some are now discussing - the economic consequences will be felt in middle-class communities across the country. American citizens would lose jobs as businesses downsize, and governments with lower tax revenues would lay off teachers, firefighters and police officers. As a result, our country would have a harder time climbing out of the national recession. Requiring local police to stop anyone they suspect of being here illegally may also hurt public health and safety. In New York City, we protect the confidentiality of all residents when they interact with government, because whenever someone is afraid to report a crime, for any reason, it makes all of us less safe. Whenever someone is afraid to go to the hospital to get treated for sickness or disease, it puts all of us at risk. Whenever someone is afraid to report exploitation in the workforce, it hurts all of us. Since our earliest Colonial days, people have come here from around the world - with few restrictions - to better their lives. Today, we continue to rely on people from every continent to lay the foundation for our future economic growth, both through their innovative new ideas and their manual labor. But the simple fact is that our policies are too restrictive given American companies' demand for workers and American consumers' demand for products and services. Basic free market economics tells us we need more legal immigrants - immigrants who will start new businesses and help build the foundation for future economic growth. Laws that have the potential to hassle them could prove devastating to our economy. From a practical point of view, police officers have no rational way of knowing in advance who is a citizen, or a tourist, or a business traveler, or a legal permanent resident, or a foreign student, or a temporary worker - and who is not. And this could lead immigrants who own businesses to pack up and leave and take their companies' jobs with them. Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon understands the harmful impact that this law could have on his city, and he is weighing a legal challenge. Certainly, a very strong case could be made that the law is unconstitutional. But Gordon also understands that the real solution lies in Washington. We need Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform - and fast. In the weeks and months ahead, I will do everything possible to join with Gordon and others to advance reform that strengthens our economy, secures our borders and honors our history. What's at stake here is nothing less than America's international reputation as the most open and attractive marketplace in the world, and our standing as the world's strongest economic superpower. Immigrants have always been at the heart of American culture and capitalism, and casting suspicious eyes on legal immigrants will only harm both. Bloomberg is mayor of New York City. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 28 14:46:49 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Apr 28 00:19:40 2010. No one is nutty. We're asking that our laws be enforced, and the illegal immigration issue be addressed, not ignored. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:52:48 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 28 14:13:50 2010. "Yes, she represents IMMIGRATION, as in LEGAL IMMIGRATION, not lawbreakers that sneak into our country. "You sure about that? eh? I don't see anything in this inscription...please send me legal immigrants: Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 14:54:14 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 28 02:27:17 2010. Another subchatter said that the law was passed because white Arizonans are inherently racist. I can only assume that the people that think that police would make unreasonable stops when the law says reasonable are operating under the same assumption. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 14:56:02 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 14:25:52 2010. Of course. Even if 75% of the people in the in the country that wore burqas were here illegally, stopping people based on their appearance would be unreasonable. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 14:57:35 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 28 14:22:57 2010. That's all? You forgot to add the fact that people coming here legally are required to give a kidney to a rich white American so that he can make a wallet. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 14:58:19 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 14:25:52 2010. "Most of people who wear burqas are legally in the country, so there's no reasonable suspicion."Really? how so? I mean....do they wear banners on their back...proclaiming: " I AM LEGAL...DON'T BUG ME!" wow....kool...dude....who would have thought that one.....but seriously now....where do you come up with this conclusion? based on what? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 15:00:12 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 14:56:02 2010. "stopping people based on their appearance would be unreasonable. "Why? "suspicious looking characters" don't count? eh? 
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 28 15:02:17 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 14:54:14 2010. Subchatters are mostly extreme liberals anyway. Makes sense. Even if something terrible happened to one of the libs here, at the hands of an illegal, they would still support illegal immigration.In fact, most people on this site believe that there is no such thing as illegal immigration, because all humans are legal. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 28 15:03:44 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Apr 28 14:22:57 2010. |
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Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 15:04:16 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 14:37:30 2010. "Does it apply to visitors too?"It applies to ANYONE...visiting or NOT...that is how VAGUE this shit is! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Apr 28 15:07:07 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 28 14:44:32 2010. What about Canada...??? eh? they took in alot draft-doggers and no one said a HOOT about them! |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Apr 28 15:09:37 2010, in response to Re: ''Your papers, please!'' is the talk of totalitarianism., posted by AlM on Wed Apr 28 14:37:30 2010. It's not in the law. In fact Arizona police cannot determine if anyone is here illegally. They can determine if someone is here legally but any determination that someone is here illegally is made by the federal government or their representative. That is in the law.But is someone is determined to be here illegally (by the feds) then Arizona can make them serve their sentence (for whatever their crime is, including trespassing) before turning them over to the federal government. |
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