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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:22:56 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:13:13 2010.

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No.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:24:25 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 16:14:13 2010.

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Tell who? The police? Why would I have to tell them anything?

If I was suspected of criminal activity and they asked me that, then I would tell them where I was born.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 16:24:59 2010, in response to Re:If this offends you, go fuck yourself., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 27 12:49:14 2010.

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Actually, the natives surrendered it by their misbehavior. They weren't the peace-loving people that revisionists are trying to portray them as.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 16:25:38 2010, in response to Re:If this offends you, go fuck yourself., posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 12:26:07 2010.

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See, you're a racist by posting revisionist propaganda.

And don't be a hypocrite by pointing out the foul language of others.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:26:58 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 16:18:04 2010.

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You agree with streetcarman1? lol.

The reason that I said that no Arizona police officer will mistakenly deport anyone is because police officers have no more authority to deport anyone than you or I. It is impossible that they can deport anyone. Even if they drive up to a border and roll someone down a hill into Mexico, that isn't deportation.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 16:32:39 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:14:29 2010.

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Can you imagine if Suffolk PD could deport criminals from Brentwood?

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:34:33 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by TheCiskoKid on Tue Apr 27 13:02:01 2010.

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"No one seems to be suggesting that we ought to engage in racial profiling. There is no ethnic profiling permitted by this law. Profiling is a red herring that the left is putting foward to inflame the public."

So all those "claims" about very nice NJ state troopers was just a "fabrication" by the media...right? eh? I don't buy it...considering what the result was....try again...plus....I am not into "herring."


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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:38:47 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 13:24:20 2010.

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I see now...so if you're a Canadian..on holiday...then you really ought to carry your "proof of citizenship" or be arrested and deported. hmmm...who'd a thought that...eh?

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 16:39:56 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:34:33 2010.

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Did you make it to high school? Your ignorance of simple terms is astounding.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:41:04 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 13:27:53 2010.

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""Keep this card in your possession at all times". Can anyone confirm?"

Do you REALLY believe that naturalized American citizens run around in NYC carrying their cards? eh? I doubt it. I guess you have to...out of FEAR...of being jailed now.



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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:42:17 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 27 14:18:57 2010.

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Agreed. It is basically turning AZ in a "military state" at this point with this new law.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:45:32 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:38:47 2010.

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No

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:46:00 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:41:04 2010.

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I thought that it had that on there. Do you know or not?

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 16:47:21 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:38:47 2010.

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I carry my identification when I go to Canada. If they wanted my to carry my passport at all times, I'd just do so.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:47:57 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 27 14:18:57 2010.

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IIRC, the employer retains the card.

lol. No.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:50:17 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 16:47:21 2010.

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I carried my passport everywhere when I went to Europe, but I later learned that you shouldn't because had I lost it, I would have been screwed. And I did get additional screening questions in England which is supposedly unusual for Americans. I'm used to being profiled. ;)

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Apr 27 16:59:17 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 16:34:33 2010.

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Not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Now, if you're talking about the law having teeth or not, different issue altogether.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 17:02:29 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:50:17 2010.

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i was given a hard time in Montreal.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 17:03:48 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 17:02:29 2010.

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Canadians can be very perceptive. ;)

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Apr 27 17:13:55 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 12:53:38 2010.

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But La Raza doesn't want that either!

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Apr 27 17:15:24 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 16:18:04 2010.

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You shouldn't. These people are notorius for scamming SSI and welfare!
They will make you homeless and take the food out of your icebox!

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Re:If this offends you, go fuck yourself.

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:22:29 2010, in response to Re:If this offends you, go fuck yourself., posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 15:56:22 2010.

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"Native Americans MURDERED and RAPED each other during bloody battles FOR DECADES, maybe centuries. They did not sit around smoking the peace pipe."

Yo..Luchie...watching F-Troop doesn't count like watching the History Channel!

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:23:43 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:01:21 2010.

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I see.....so you've obviously done ALL your research to prove your point(s)...eh?

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:25:49 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:02:41 2010.

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"What everyone is ignoring in their rush to hysterics is that many PD's in cooperation with ICE already ask these questions."

I guess the question is this...

WHO ARE THEY ASKING? what type of person are they focusing on? I mean...how does know when one is illegal ..walking down the street and not bothering anyone or saying a word to anyone...what then...



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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 17:26:59 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:23:43 2010.

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Yes.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 17:29:08 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:25:49 2010.

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According to the Maricopa Sheriff they ask the exact same question to everyone regardless of color, accent, sex, whatever. "Where were you born?"

I mean...how does know when one is illegal ..walking down the street and not bothering anyone or saying a word to anyone...what then...

You wouldn't. They only investigate in the course of normal police work. You're question is part of the hysterics.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 17:29:49 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:25:49 2010.

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According to the Maricopa Sheriff they ask the exact same question to everyone regardless of color, accent, sex, whatever. "Where were you born?"

I mean...how does know when one is illegal ..walking down the street and not bothering anyone or saying a word to anyone...what then...

You wouldn't. They only investigate in the course of normal police work. They only investigate when they have a "reasonable suspiscion". Your question is part of the hysterics.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 17:30:05 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:25:49 2010.

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According to the Maricopa Sheriff they ask the exact same question to everyone regardless of color, accent, sex, whatever. "Where were you born?"

I mean...how does know when one is illegal ..walking down the street and not bothering anyone or saying a word to anyone...what then...

You wouldn't. They only investigate in the course of normal police work. They only investigate when they have a "reasonable suspicion". Your question is part of the hysterics.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 17:30:18 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:25:49 2010.

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blah, blah, blah.


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Re: Rifles vs. Bows and Arrows

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:31:22 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona protests, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 16:24:59 2010.

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"They weren't the peace-loving people that revisionists are trying to portray them as."

Really? you actually figured that one out all byself? after playing with your toys in the corner? eh?

If you ever look at the history books...which I can only guess that maybe you do....a loaded rifle can do more damage than a lame ass bow and arrow. There is quite a big difference in the two...mister professor..lol

The settlers came here with LOADED rifles and not bows and arrows. The Indians has no chance against loaded rifles.


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Re: Rifles vs. Bows and Arrows

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 17:32:26 2010, in response to Re: Rifles vs. Bows and Arrows, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:31:22 2010.

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they killed each other you fucking moron. scalped people alive.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona protests

Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:33:51 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona protests, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 16:25:38 2010.

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"See, you're a racist by posting revisionist propaganda."

Cute...but I and others on OT don't buy it...plus..there's nothing "revisionist" about it....you're the ONLY ONE commenting as such...I don't see anyone else support your views...cause they all know you're wrong....


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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by BMTLines on Tue Apr 27 17:34:34 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 10:33:11 2010.

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I have an easy solution to controlling the southern border. Forget about asking for "papers". Just build a Berlin style Wall across the southern border complete with minefields and machine gun nests. Vaporize anyone trying to cross - problem solved.

And no, I am not being sarcastic - anyone who tries to cross illegally deserves the consequences. There are plenty of legal crossings for those who qualify

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 17:39:03 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Apr 27 17:15:24 2010.

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FUCK YOU

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 17:40:02 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 16:26:58 2010.

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but if i dont show them my birth cetrificate i will be arrested and go to jail ?

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 17:44:48 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 17:40:02 2010.

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Of course not. That would be ridiculous.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 27 17:58:52 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 17:02:29 2010.

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How? Montreal has to be one of the coolest cities there are ... and if you speak "un peu", they're especially nice ...

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Apr 27 18:04:52 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 17:40:02 2010.

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Not will, SHOULD! You draft dodging welfare momma!

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 18:24:58 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Apr 27 18:04:52 2010.

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FUCK YOU

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Apr 27 18:33:23 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Apr 27 17:13:55 2010.

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 18:41:26 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:25:49 2010.

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So you're saying that police should tolerate people throwing piss-filled bottles and rocks at them, during these protests?

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Re: Violent Arizona Protests

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 27 18:44:15 2010, in response to Re: Violent Arizona Protests, posted by R PansePCC on Tue Apr 27 05:10:57 2010.

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No habla Ingles.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 27 18:52:40 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 27 12:48:16 2010.

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Please stop with the nonsensical leftist propaganda and scare tactics. There is nothing in the law that says this. Perhaps it's YOU that should read it.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 27 18:54:21 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by bingbong on Tue Apr 27 14:18:57 2010.

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And he should be outraged at the illegals smearing his name. Illegal immigration, and the tolerance for it is an insult to all the hard working LEGAL immigrants that came to this country and did everything they are supposed to do.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona protests

Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Apr 27 18:57:08 2010, in response to Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona protests, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 16:24:59 2010.

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Chris is right. We took it, mostly by force. We're all beneficiaries of it, and it surely wasn't immigration.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Easy on Tue Apr 27 19:02:07 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 27 18:52:40 2010.

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The part that she said that is true is that if they are determined to be here illegally by the feds, then they will go to jail for trespassing and then fined to pay for their jail time.

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Re:If this offends you, go fuck yourself.

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 19:02:12 2010, in response to Re:If this offends you, go fuck yourself., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 27 12:49:14 2010.

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Yes. And it just as easliy could have been lost. Wars are won or lost. No one alive today has anything to feel guilty about.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 19:03:30 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 27 18:41:26 2010.

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Anything's conceivable to someone who lives under a rock . . . and you're talking to rock-boy there.

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Re: Opening the borders is not the solution

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Apr 27 19:13:48 2010, in response to Re: Opening the borders is not the solution, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 27 18:54:21 2010.

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He's pissed at Arizona ... just so's you know. Arizona is the meth lab of democracy.

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Re: Violent (leftist) Arizona Protests

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Apr 27 19:19:39 2010, in response to Re: Rifles vs. Bows and Arrows, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Apr 27 17:31:22 2010.

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after playing with your toys in the corner?

Since you come up with stuff like that, I must presume that that's all you know in your life. Maybe someday you'll grow up.

If you ever look at the history books...which I can only guess that maybe you do....a loaded rifle can do more damage than a lame ass bow and arrow

You don't know history very well, do you? or the history of weapons for that matter, since rifles didn't become particularly deadly in military use until breech-loading, which didn't stow up until the 19th Century—before that, muzzle loading left you very vulnerable to hails of those "lame-ass bows and arrows". Shaka, the leader of the Zulu Empire, almost flattened the British military with "lame-ass bows and arrows" as well as other primitive weapons such as the short spear. And if you had bothered to read history books yourself, you would have been aware of Native Americans procuring modern weaponry via various sources, and still not being able to win.

The settlers came here with LOADED rifles and not bows and arrows

OK, you want to give us double proof of your utter ignorance. I already went over breech loading versus muzzle loading; don't make me go into the problems with black powder. Even worse, you didn't bother to look on the web for the answers . . .

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