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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue Mar 28 20:22:44 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 28 19:55:49 2023.* Mad Magazine Spiro Agnew Assassination issue; If you outlaw IcePicks Only outlaws will have IcePicks
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Mar 28 20:30:31 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 28 18:33:28 2023.* That’s not really the same. That’s more like a typical fire drill.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Train Dude* on Tue Mar 28 20:34:39 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 28 20:30:31 2023.* Did you ride the short bus to school? No fire drill ever involves getting under a desk. It involved leaving the building and mustering in a predetermined location so all could be accounted for.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Fred G* on Tue Mar 28 20:45:20 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 28 18:33:28 2023.* Yeah, but that was some distant threat that nobody really knew about. It was kind of like a fire drill. The idea that somebody’s gonna come in to school with a gun and start shooting kids is quite a bit more traumatic, and especially since we vividly know what that’s about
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Tue Mar 28 21:22:35 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 28 20:19:27 2023.* Can't compare it to cars as cars were not in the Bill of Rights.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Mar 28 21:51:14 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Mar 28 21:22:35 2023.* You took the words out of my mouth.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Tue Mar 28 22:45:32 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 28 21:51:14 2023.* Sorry.
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Hale’s manifesto release advised against by LGBTQQIAAP groups
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 29 01:38:20 2023, in response to Man Murders Innocent Children In Nashville, posted by chicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 27 18:28:14 2023.* Newsweak is still using Audrey's birth name; the Beobachter Slimes and USA Today "apologized" already for "deadnaming" Hale. Audrey Hale Manifesto Release Raises Major Concerns From LGBTQ+ Groups Calls for police to release the "manifesto" that authorities say was written ahead of Monday's Nashville school shooting has prompted concern among LGBTQ+ groups, who caution against the publication of such a document. While many details remain to be unveiled about the massacre at The Covenant School this week, police have identified the shooter as 28-year-old Audrey Hale. On Monday, Hale, armed with two assault-style weapons—a rifle and a pistol—as well as a handgun, fatally shot three children and three staff members at the school before being killed by police. Speaking at a press conference hours after the shooting, Metropolitan Nashville Police Chief John Drake, who said the shooter identified as transgender, confirmed that officials were in possession of a "manifesto," a map detailing how the incident would take place and writings "that pertain to this date, the actual incident." Some conservatives, like Tennessee Republican Representative Tim Burchett, have called for the release of the document, arguing that doing so would give the public critical information about the perpetuator's state of mind. "We need to know what was going through this person's head, and the manifesto should be made public," Burchett told Fox News Digital in a Monday statement. But groups advocating for LGBTQ+ rights disagree. "It should not be published," Jordan Budd, the executive director of Children of Lesbians and Gays Everywhere (COLAGE), told Newsweek. "The focus should be on how this was able to happen in the first place. There should not be such easy access to deadly weaponry." Charles Moran, the national president of Log Cabin Republicans, a GOP organization that advocates for equal rights for LGBTQ+ Americans, also told Newsweek that there are "serious consequences" for the public release of the manifesto. "While it would certainly give insight into the motivations of this deeply troubled individual that could help shed light into root causes, we know from tragedies like this that additional glorification of the shooter could inspire others to take similar violent acts for attention," Moran said. Laura McGinnis, a spokesperson for PFLAG, agreed, telling Newsweek that publication of these documents could increase the risk of contagion. She said that while the manifesto could help law enforcement and policymakers identify potential warning signs to prevent future tragedies, ultimately, "the contents don't change the outcome of the tragedy." "Regardless of the shooter's intentions, the real issue here is the ease of access to deadly weapons in Tennessee and elsewhere," Budd said, adding, "All children, no matter who their parents are or how they identify, should feel safe and supported at school. That includes a world free from gun violence." Moran said that Log Cabin would defer to authorities on whether the manifesto should be shared with the public. On Tuesday, a spokesperson for the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department told the Daily Caller News Foundation that it had no intention of releasing the documents anytime soon, saying, "We will not be releasing the manifesto during an open investigation." Moran said he anticipates that the document would "eventually" be published "given the politically charged nature of gun violence and mental illness." Some social media users have also argued against the release of the manifesto. "So yesterday's school shooter has a MANIFESTO. My MANIFESTO is don't publish it," one Twitter user wrote on Tuesday. "Feck whatever gender that s*bird was. I still haven't figured out if we're talking MtF or FtM and ultimately it doesn't matter. Just an a**** unhappy with the way the world is." "I hope they don't publish her manifesto. That only encourages others," another tweeted. Amid a flurry of attention on Hale's gender, prominent conservatives like GOP Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene and Fox News anchor Laura Ingraham have suggested that gender-affirming drugs played a role in the mass shooting. Police have consistently stressed that they are not ready to conclusively point to a motive for Hale at this time. LGBTQ+ groups, however, have cautioned against making the shooter's transgender identity central to the tragedy. On Tuesday, the Human Rights Campaign referred Newsweek to their initial statement on the shooting, which reads: "We still don't know all the facts about what happened in Nashville. We do know that every study available shows that transgender and non-binary people are much more likely to be the victims of violence, rather than the perpetrators of it." "Regardless of the reason for this shooting, the use of violence is reprehensible and we renew our call for common-sense gun safety legislation," the statement said. "The tragedy of gun violence is overwhelming, and it is the ready access to guns to inflict irrevocable pain that cannot be undone that is the problem," PFLAG also told Newsweek in a statement. "Our hearts are broken for the loss of each of these people, and we mourn with our community." In a press release on Monday, the MNPD also revealed the names of the six individuals that were killed. Three of the victims—Evelyn Dieckhaus, William Kinney and Hallie Scruggs—were all 9 years old. The three adults were identified as Mike Hill, 61, Cynthia Peak, 61 and Katherine Koonce, 60.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Wed Mar 29 02:38:44 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Mar 28 21:22:35 2023.* Yes you can. The Bill of Rights only says that the right to bear arms shall not be abridged. I'm not suggesting to abridge the right, just to regulate it. Do you think that being in a well-regulated militia did not include training, background checks, and limitations on the type of guns you could carry? Sorry, Billy, you can't be in the militia, we know you tried to rob that grocery store.
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Re: “Trans-Man” Murders Innocent Children In Nashville
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 29 04:22:26 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Avid Reader on Tue Mar 28 07:59:37 2023.* Maybe in this case, abortion was justifiable Wrong.
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We Ought To Be Ashamed was “Trans-Man” Murders Innocent Children In Nashville
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Mar 29 09:43:36 2023, in response to Re: “Trans-Man” Murders Innocent Children In Nashville, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 29 04:22:26 2023.* Yes we should - all of us except one ought to be ashamed. Here we are - all of us obsessing about a 28 year old woman who wanted to be a man so badly, and was so angry, she killed 6 human beings. Only one of us mentioned the 6 victims at all. AlM said at the time there were 20 posts about the shooter and none about the victims. Not even one obligatory "RIP". I have we to admit it- AlM is a superior human being. I'm in awe.
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Re: Man Murders Innocent Children In Nashville
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Wed Mar 29 10:22:06 2023, in response to Re: Man Murders Innocent Children In Nashville, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 27 18:54:13 2023.*
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Mar 29 10:26:37 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 29 02:38:44 2023.* The argument doesn’t make sense either. There weren’t cars in 1789, nor were there AR-15s. It would be ridiculous to say that the right to bear arms only extends to muzzle-loading muskets or other arms available in 1789.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Wed Mar 29 10:36:27 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 29 10:26:37 2023.* It would be ridiculous to say that the right to bear arms only extends to muzzle-loading muskets or other arms available in 1789. Yes, and I didn't say it.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Mar 29 11:12:04 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 29 10:36:27 2023.* I know you didn’t.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Jeff Rosen* on Wed Mar 29 11:24:20 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 29 10:26:37 2023.* It does make sense as driving is considered a privilege. Gun ownership is a right.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Wed Mar 29 11:35:14 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Mar 29 11:24:20 2023.* Gun ownership is a right, but not an unlimited right. Good luck getting found by the police with a portable anti-tank or anti-aircraft gun in your possession.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Mar 29 13:28:36 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 29 11:35:14 2023.* Says who?
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Mar 29 13:37:52 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 29 13:28:36 2023.* Try and get a full carry permit in NYC and you will find out how your rights are limited.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Mar 29 13:45:44 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 29 13:37:52 2023.* ALL unconstitutional!
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Re: Hale’s manifesto release advised against by LGBTQQIAAP groups
Posted by TransitChuckG* on Wed Mar 29 13:46:51 2023, in response to Hale’s manifesto release advised against by LGBTQQIAAP groups, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 29 01:38:20 2023.* My apologies for not seeing this response before I posted my response..
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Wed Mar 29 14:54:28 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 29 13:37:52 2023.* Full carry will become easier once the Supreme Court gets to an appropriate case. Owning an anti-tank gun won't, despite what Bill thinks.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Mar 29 15:21:37 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 29 14:54:28 2023.* Good heavens! Why do you bring up the extreme example of an individual owning an anti tank gun in defense of 2nd amendment restrictions? The local gun shops in my area don't stock them and as far as I know there isn't much of a demand for them.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Wed Mar 29 15:31:05 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 29 15:21:37 2023.* I bring it up because some people claim the right to bear arms is absolute. It's not. The only question is where to draw the line.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Mar 29 16:14:39 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 29 14:54:28 2023.* Is this a necropost? The Supreme Court already ruled on this and the legislature opened up the carry permit rules.
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Re: “Trans-Man” Murders Innocent Children In Nashville
Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Mar 29 16:32:29 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 29 13:45:44 2023.* Correct.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Wed Mar 29 16:54:24 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 29 16:14:39 2023.* No it's not a necropost. I believe Jim is correct that it's still hard to get a carry permit in NY, or at least a carry permit without a wide range of exclusions. If Jim is wrong, then address your post to Jim.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Mar 29 18:18:35 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 29 16:14:39 2023.* Didn't the city challenge that ruling?
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Re: Man Murders Innocent Children In Nashville
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Wed Mar 29 20:17:29 2023, in response to Re: Man Murders Innocent Children In Nashville, posted by chicagoMotorman on Wed Mar 29 10:22:06 2023.* ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Mar 29 20:33:15 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Mar 29 18:18:35 2023.* It was a Supreme Court ruling. That’s that.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Wed Mar 29 20:45:03 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Mar 29 20:33:15 2023.* But NY has responded by saying sure you can have a gun permit, but here are a million places you're not allowed to carry it. This makes the permit pretty useless, at least in NYC. This is going to lead to a further Supreme Court case.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Mar 29 21:03:09 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 29 14:54:28 2023.* Lo@lm! What do I think?
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Mar 29 21:03:54 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 29 15:31:05 2023.* Who says it's not?
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Wed Mar 29 21:24:28 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 29 21:03:54 2023.* The Supreme Court of the United States of America.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Mar 29 21:30:14 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by AlM on Wed Mar 29 21:24:28 2023.* That's just opinions. If SCOTUS decides that free speech isn't absolute when talking about the Government, would you agree based on their opinions?
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by Chicagomotorman* on Thu Mar 30 01:13:47 2023, in response to Re: Man Murders Innocent Children In Nashville, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Mar 29 20:17:29 2023.* Corrected
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 05:45:15 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 30 01:13:47 2023. WTF
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 30 06:32:32 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 05:45:15 2023. Then why the ZZZZZs?
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 07:04:01 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 30 06:32:32 2023. BORING
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Thu Mar 30 07:13:37 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 07:04:01 2023.* The Mickey Mouse Club was not boring.
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 07:26:40 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 30 07:13:37 2023. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Thu Mar 30 07:29:42 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 07:26:40 2023.* Mickey Mouse is black.
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Re: Hale’s manifesto release advised against by LGBTQQIAAP groups
Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 30 09:23:03 2023, in response to Hale’s manifesto release advised against by LGBTQQIAAP groups, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 29 01:38:20 2023. Why are they against the release. So many public figures have come out in support - or are just pretending we'll never know the motive.
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Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai
Posted by AlM* on Thu Mar 30 09:51:52 2023, in response to Re: I Apologize To Olog-hai, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 29 21:30:14 2023.* You asked me who said it's not and I answered. If I started to discuss all my agreements and disagreements with SCOTUS decisions, I'd be posting all day.
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 13:37:51 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 30 07:29:42 2023. OH
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Thu Mar 30 13:39:17 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 13:37:51 2023.* P
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 13:45:44 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 30 13:39:17 2023. ???????????????????????????????????
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by chicagoMotorman* on Thu Mar 30 13:50:13 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 13:45:44 2023.*
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Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Mar 30 13:58:52 2023, in response to Re: Salaam Allah Does Not Like The Mickey Mouse Club, posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Mar 30 13:50:13 2023. FIGURES
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Re: Hale’s manifesto release advised against by LGBTQQIAAP groups
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 30 14:09:44 2023, in response to Re: Hale’s manifesto release advised against by LGBTQQIAAP groups, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 30 09:23:03 2023. Because they tranny people don't want to accept the fact that they are nuts (no pun intended).
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