|
|
| Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe (1896148) | |
 |
|
| Home > OTChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
|
Page 3 of 8 |
||
|
| (1896319) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 18:23:05 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 11:15:17 2022. Sad but true. Thats one reason abortion should stay legal. Keeps the "backalley butchers" out of business. Its bad enough that they are killing their babies, no point in killing the mother. She'll answer for her deeds in the next life. |
|
|
| (1896321) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Tue May 3 18:24:05 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 16:46:32 2022. LMAO! |
|
|
| (1896322) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 18:26:39 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 18:19:56 2022. "And yet thousands of people whose hearts have stopped beating have gone on to live for years longer."Thats entirely different. A heart stopped deliberately for a lifesaving procedure is much different than stopping a heart for ending life. |
|
|
| (1896323) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 18:30:08 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 18:23:05 2022. No, she won’t. |
|
|
| (1896325) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 18:37:25 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 18:26:39 2022. No, not a heart stopped deliberately. Hearts which have stopped due to natural causes can be revived in some circumstances. It’s what CPR does and why the term “clinically dead” exists. But to your point about deliberately stopping the heart to save the life, how is it saving a life if you’re purposely stopping the very vessel of human life? That’s because the heart is not the vessel of human life, human individuality or human identity.Also, if Siamese twins share a heart, are they one person? Clearly not. |
|
|
| (1896333) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 18:47:21 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Easy on Tue May 3 17:53:48 2022. The terrible part is the number of people that agree that a fetus is a baby but are still pro-choice. I can’t wrap my brain around that.A person can think a fetus is a baby and also realize that other people have valid reasons for believing differently. |
|
|
| (1896334) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Tue May 3 18:50:37 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 18:12:12 2022. According to Wikipedia:A newly developing human is typically referred to as an embryo until the ninth week after conception, when it is then referred to as a fetus. According to the LA Times: In November 1972, Blackmun sent his colleagues a near-final draft of his opinion that concluded abortions should be legal through the first three months. “This is arbitrary, but perhaps any other selected point, such as quickening or viability, is equally arbitrary,” he said. Two other justices sent back memos suggesting the legal cut-off should be at the “point of viability,” which comes between the 24th and 28th week of a pregnancy. With no further discussion, Blackmun changed the final opinion to say abortions may not be restricted prior to viability. |
|
|
| (1896336) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 18:56:21 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Easy on Tue May 3 18:50:37 2022. I am aware, but most abortions occur in that earlier period. |
|
|
| (1896339) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 18:58:10 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 18:23:05 2022. When did God say that a baby's life begins at conception? Or that abortion is a sin? |
|
|
| (1896345) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:06:26 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 18:58:10 2022. That asshole supposedly said a lot of things. |
|
|
| (1896349) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 19:17:18 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 18:30:08 2022. And how do you know?? |
|
|
| (1896351) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 19:19:46 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 18:58:10 2022. Not having a conversation with God lately, I can't answer that. |
|
|
| (1896352) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:22:43 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 19:17:18 2022. There is no afterlife. |
|
|
| (1896353) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 19:24:24 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:22:43 2022. Once more...how do you know?? |
|
|
| (1896354) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:25:43 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 19:24:24 2022. How do you know that Zeus doesn’t exist? |
|
|
| (1896355) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 3 19:25:59 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 18:58:10 2022. Jeremiah 1:5 for the former and Exodus 20:13 for the latter. |
|
|
| (1896356) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:29:04 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 3 19:25:59 2022. You sound like one of those fanboys who can quote every line of your favorite franchise. |
|
|
| (1896358) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 19:34:28 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:25:43 2022. Heh.There is evidence that Zeus doesn't exist. There is no evidence that God doesn't exist. |
|
|
| (1896359) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 19:37:32 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:25:43 2022. Answering a question with a question?? No answers that way. |
|
|
| (1896360) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:38:10 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 19:34:28 2022. TNHIW. You can’t just use fantasy literature from thousands of years ago as proof of something, and expect rational people to accept it as true until it can be disproved. |
|
|
| (1896361) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:47:13 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 19:37:32 2022. It’s a valid response. You expect me to believe something from ancient fantasy literature because no one disproved it? So why not believe in Zeus? |
|
|
| (1896363) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 20:02:42 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 19:47:13 2022. First off, I'm not trying to make you believe in anything. That said..."...ancient fantasy literature" I'll assume you're referring to the Bible "So why not believe in Zeus?" Comparing believing in Zeus to the Bible is an apples an oranges comparison. The Bible was written by inspired men believing that the hand of God guided the hands and mind of the authors. I didnt get the Zeus reference comparing or how is sizes up to Biblical passages. |
|
|
| (1896364) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Tue May 3 20:05:27 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 18:47:21 2022. People can think that it’s murder and that murder is wrong but if others think differently then that’s ok? |
|
|
| (1896368) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 20:25:38 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 3 19:25:59 2022. Jeremiah 1:5 - He was talking about Jeremiah, and He didn't specifically mention that Jeremiah was a baby before he was born.Exodus 20:13 - too general. |
|
|
| (1896369) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 20:28:35 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 3 19:25:59 2022. Jeremiah 1:5“Before I formed you in the womb I knew[a] you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” OK, so God knew Jeremiah even before he was a fetus. Therefore it is a reference to the spiritual side of Jeremiah and not the physical side. Therefore it says nothing relevant. |
|
|
| (1896370) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 20:34:51 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 3 19:25:59 2022. Exodus 20:13"Thou shalt not kill" OK, so all killing is always a sin. Therefore when Ukrainians kill Russians to defend their families and their country, they are sinning grievously. They ought to just surrender to avoid bloodshed, right. |
|
|
| (1896371) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by AlM on Tue May 3 20:36:39 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Easy on Tue May 3 20:05:27 2022. Many people think that adultery is a horrible sin. But very few of those people believe that adulterers should be jailed. |
|
|
| (1896372) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 20:43:38 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Easy on Tue May 3 20:05:27 2022. Murder implies deliberately causing the death of another human being. But if it's not considered another human being, is killing it still murder? |
|
|
| (1896373) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 20:46:50 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 20:28:35 2022. How dare you try to apply logic. |
|
|
| (1896374) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 20:47:48 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 20:02:42 2022. That’s what you believe. I certainly don’t believe that the Bible was written by inspired men, some of it must have been written by schizophrenics or people on drugs, but it’s fiction, some of it using actual historical events.Zeus is relevant because you’re an atheist with respect to Zeus and all other gods. I just go one god further. Anyway, this actually goes beyond the discussion of the afterlife. “God” can be defined rather broadly, so that that one can say the majesty of the universe is an aspect of “God,” but there still is no afterlife, it’s made up like the story of Adam and Steve. |
|
|
| (1896375) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 20:49:02 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Easy on Tue May 3 20:05:27 2022. I actually think that’s awful moral relativism. If you consider it a human being, then it is murder. |
|
|
| (1896377) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 20:50:49 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 20:25:38 2022. And Jeremiah 1:5 doesn’t specify when Jeremiah was formed. It could have been minutes before birth or it could have been at the beginning of “viability.” It was that one. |
|
|
| (1896379) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 20:55:56 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 20:28:35 2022. Or it just gives a reason for avoiding late term abortions, but not all abortions. |
|
|
| (1896380) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe? |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 20:56:52 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe?, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 20:34:51 2022. It says “Do not murder.” Killing is OK in certain circumstances. |
|
|
| (1896390) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 3 21:30:26 2022, in response to Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon May 2 21:41:29 2022. Chuck the schmuck Schumer and the rest of the sleazy democrats exploiting the unethical leak of a confidential Supreme Court document. If you do not believe that this is an organized effort on the part of the democrats, ask yourself:If the document was leaked last nite, how did the organizers of the protests at the Supreme Court just happen to have professionally printed signs, this morning? Democrats have no shame. |
|
|
| (1896392) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 21:47:40 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 19:34:28 2022. O@LM!! |
|
|
| (1896393) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue May 3 21:47:54 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 19:34:28 2022. LO@LM!! |
|
|
| (1896395) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 22:09:36 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Train Dude on Tue May 3 21:30:26 2022. Professionally printed signs? LOL! |
|
|
| (1896396) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 22:13:24 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 19:34:28 2022. What evidence that Zeus doesn’t exist? Right now Zeus is at 23h 56m 40s right ascension, -2° 27’ 51” declination. |
|
|
| (1896397) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Train Dude on Tue May 3 22:17:08 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 22:09:36 2022. Yes, professionally printed signs. Are you claiming that there were none today? |
|
|
| (1896399) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 22:42:07 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 20:47:48 2022. "...some of it must have been written by schizophrenics or people on drugs,"Like a lot of other literature out there. Would that apply to the Quran too? Besides, inspired men are still men that can have issues. And who is to judge? But I'll give you this much, I'll concede that the story of Adam and Steve was made up. |
|
|
| (1896401) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Tue May 3 23:05:00 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by 3-9 on Tue May 3 20:43:38 2022. We’re discussing people that believe that a fetus is a baby. |
|
|
| (1896402) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Easy on Tue May 3 23:23:57 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by AlM on Tue May 3 20:36:39 2022. Are you suggesting that the people that believe that a fetus is a baby, but support abortions don't consider murder to be a crime? |
|
|
| (1896403) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by 3-9 on Wed May 4 00:12:17 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Easy on Tue May 3 23:05:00 2022. We were discussing why people can be against abortion and still be pro-choice. |
|
|
| (1896404) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by subfan on Wed May 4 01:12:58 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 16:34:40 2022. No, prohibiting abortion is a civil act, though no doubt often informed by religious beliefs. This is no different from the way that prohibiting commerce on Sunday under Blue Laws is a civil act, though clearly driven by a religious belief regarding what is appropriate behavior on the Sabbath.I get it - you don't like religion or religiously-motivated laws. That, though, is not what this Supreme Court case should be about. The sole question the Court should be addressing is if there is a "right" to abortion in the Constitution - and the answer seems to be a pretty clear "no". Following that determination, you and anyone else is free to try to convince the various legislative bodies to pass laws regarding abortion that are as strict or permissive as you believe appropriate, based on whatever methods or beliefs you hold to be correct. You are also free to mock those whose beliefs you disagree with as part of the process - though to be honest, I'm not sure if that's the best way to convince people that your views are correct... subfan |
|
|
| (1896410) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Dave on Wed May 4 07:25:03 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue May 3 22:42:07 2022. Adam and Steve? |
|
|
| (1896412) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 07:46:06 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Dave on Wed May 4 07:25:03 2022. I don't know why the left stresses about abortion so much. With the utter move to lbgt all around, including Disney's 1st graders, which the left thinks is wonderful....we shouldn't worry about unexpected birth, as Trans Steve still can't have an unexpected pregnancy by Adam yet.. |
|
|
| (1896413) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 08:15:54 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed May 4 07:46:06 2022. Feminism. |
|
|
| (1896419) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 09:05:25 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by subfan on Wed May 4 01:12:58 2022. The blue laws have a legitimate secular purpose in giving retail employees a compulsory day off, and lowering traffic. What is the legitimate secular purpose in banning abortion?I don’t have a problem with religion. I have a problem with people who want to impose THEIR religion on me. If your god commands you to go forth and convert others to its way, then your god is an asshole. This is another reason why I hate evangelicals, it’s in their name! |
|
|
| (1896420) | |
Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe |
|
|
Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 09:06:47 2022, in response to Re: Supreme Court to strike down Roe, posted by Dave on Wed May 4 07:25:03 2022. It was a joke I put in there. But Adam and Steve is made up too. |
|
|
|
Page 3 of 8 |
||