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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 06:43:39 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Mar 25 22:10:10 2020.

Given that the peak in NYS is predicted to be around Easter, and they are half of the national cases, Trump should have kept his fucking mouth shut. What he did was encourage New Yorkers to leave the area and spread the pandemic, and without a national lockdown. Words matter.

That is REALITY, not a "lost liberal phuck" as you out it.

I'll say it again: Brain Dead Trump Cult.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Mar 26 09:02:29 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Wed Mar 25 17:08:10 2020.

The general rule in this country is that doctors may prescribe any drug on the market for any condition they believe it will help. How can a state governor take it on himself to override that? There is at least one case where a patient treated with hydroxychloroquine (intravenously) made a dramatic recovery from Covid-19. But there are studies which seem to indicate it has no effect. I don't know the details. Maybe they involved taking it orally?

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Mar 26 09:17:43 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 06:43:39 2020.

women are laughing at you.

women.

are you a man or a mouse? stop trying to frighten children, stupid.


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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 10:16:40 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 06:37:07 2020.

You are a seriously sick individual, joey. If I were you,I'd immediately go into a 100% self imposed isolation. This should include staying off social media since it appears that knowledge may be making your illness worse.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 10:34:45 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Mar 26 09:02:29 2020.

One case does not make a rule. We have a clinical trial process and they take 12 - 18 months.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 10:35:18 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 10:16:40 2020.

You just can't focus on the issues.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 10:55:09 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 06:37:07 2020.

"...he should have issued a national lockdown."

Can't happen in the United States. We have freedom of assembly, freedom to worship as we wish, freedom to go out & about as we wish as guaranteed by the constitution. Restrictions on gatherings cannot be enforced on a federal level unless a threat of civil disobedience is obvious.
Social distancing, while the right thing to do these days, would probably not survive a court challenge, if anyone was arrested on violating social distancing "suggestions"

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 10:56:55 2020, in response to Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 24 22:07:03 2020.

Well he is an elected Demonkkkrat. They always know more than science does.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 11:20:48 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Mar 26 09:02:29 2020.

There is at least one case where a patient treated with hydroxychloroquine (intravenously) made a dramatic recovery from Covid-19.

Without doubt there are also a fair number of cases where a patient recovered dramatically after making a heartfelt prayer to his almighty God.

Should that also be on the treatment list? "I'll put you on a ventilator, but first pray as hard as you can."



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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:21:48 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 10:35:18 2020.

Your derangement is the issue.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Mar 26 11:30:49 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 10:34:45 2020.

We obviously don't have 12-18 months to wait. Even one verified case is a piece of evidence that doctors should be able to take into consideration, or not, as they see fit, without interference from politicians.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:35:02 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 11:20:48 2020.

If prayer helps, why would you fear trying or using it?

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 11:40:09 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:35:02 2020.

Because it doesn’t help. His point is that correlation doesn’t imply causation. So the fact that a small number of people recovered after being treated by hydroxychloroquine doesn’t imply that it caused their recovery.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:48:02 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 10:55:09 2020.

Too bad we can not and have not moved beyond the politicization of this disease. The "everything Trump does is wrong" people are causing so much delay and debate that its distracting from a cohesive national effort. Little Joey's remarks are just part and parcel of the liberal belief that we need more government to control more of our lives. That's not what you do in a free society.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:53:17 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 11:40:09 2020.

Hydroxychloriquine can be harmful in some instances and its use should be highly regulated by medical professionals. However, that cannot be said of prayer nor should one underestimate its power if one believes in it. I am not a religious person but don't discount others Faith's and beliefs.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 12:20:00 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Mar 26 11:30:49 2020.

Exactly. My friend's daughter (under 40 years old) is being treated at home with hydroxychloroquine and antibiotics, I believe and is responding well. It's partially due to President Trump's "Right to Try" law and the fact that her brother in law in a licensed MD. God bless those who are thinking outside of the box these days.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 12:21:16 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:53:17 2020.

Prayer can be harmful if people come to use it in place of another, actually working, treatment.

I'm not underestimating its power and I will discount others' beliefs if those believes do not reflect reality. To the extent that prayer has any positive effect, its effect is identical to any sort of psychosomatic effect, where an optimistic outlook may contribute to healing and recovery.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 26 12:24:46 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 10:56:55 2020.

Automatically too.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Mar 26 13:03:18 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 26 12:24:46 2020.

Unlike creationists and climate change deniers, lol.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 26 13:04:05 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 11:40:09 2020.

While I still believe, even if you're right and there is no G-d, prayers can still help due to the powers of the mind.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 13:05:50 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 10:56:55 2020.

You're a RWer.youdon't do science....

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 26 13:07:11 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 26 13:04:05 2020.

even if you're right

He isn't.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Mar 26 13:09:05 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:35:02 2020.

If prayer helps, why would you fear trying or using it?

Prayer can result in worse outcomes, according to studies.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:10:25 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:21:48 2020.

You Brain Dead state and hero worshiping is the issue.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:14:58 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 11:48:02 2020.

During a war, you give up some of your freedoms. Ask anyone still around from WWII.

Because the semi-illiterate, moronic blowhard in the Oval Office won't do anything to implement the Defense Production Act, we have medical people using Hefty bags as surgical gowns, among running out of many medical supplies.

Cohesive national effort starts in the federal government. There is now zero coordination.



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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Mar 26 13:15:01 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 13:05:50 2020.

Only when it suits them.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:16:28 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 10:55:09 2020.

If you assemble right now in most states, you are subject to arrest. No court will take you up on it.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:18:44 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Mar 26 11:30:49 2020.

There are plenty of quack doctors around that we have procedures in place for review from a far larger medical community, even if fast-tracked. They cannot go off on their own.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 13:35:06 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 26 13:04:05 2020.

I referenced that in my further response.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 13:38:38 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:16:28 2020.

"No court will take you up on it."

Maybe, maybe not. Too early to tell.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 26 13:44:51 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 26 13:07:11 2020.

Nobody knows

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 26 13:45:20 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 13:35:06 2020.

I didn't get up to that yet!!

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 26 13:52:10 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 26 13:44:51 2020.

Your faith is a bit shallow, with all due respect.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 13:52:22 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Mar 26 13:44:51 2020.

IAWTP.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:53:34 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 13:38:38 2020.

Commercial airspace was shut down for 34 day after 9/11.
The NEC was shut down for 4 days after Amtrak's 188 crash until ATC was implemented on that curve.

During WWII air raid drills, you could be told to buy blackout shades and pull them down on command. You also were not allowed to smoke outside. My Grandfather was a local warden in Lawrence, LI and he stamped out many a cigarette butt.

Yes the federal government can do that. Libertarian bullshit has no meaning.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 13:55:18 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 10:55:09 2020.

Congress can suspend habeas corpus. Then you can be detained for any reason, for as long as the government wants, until the emergency passes and habeas corpus is restored.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:55:30 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:53:34 2020.

4 days after 9/11

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 14:02:07 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 13:55:18 2020.

Does this get into "Enemy Combatent" issues ?

The NJ AG would like to accuse anyone who willfully spreads the virus, such as coughing/spitting on someone, to be accused of terrorism.

"Earlier this week, a man was charged with terrorism offences after allegedly coughing on a supermarket worker in New Jersey and telling her he had coronavirus."

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-woman-coughed-supermarket-gerritys-1494366

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 14:08:15 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 14:02:07 2020.

I’d have to look at the statutes (NJSA 2C:38-2) to determine if that’s a legitimate interpretation.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 14:48:41 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 12:21:16 2020.

I saw Stephen Bauman's response and take back my prior post: Asking a patient to pray might stress them out that they think that there is no hope for them, which could hamper, not help, the outcome.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 14:54:28 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:53:34 2020.

During WWII air raid drills, you could be told to buy blackout shades and pull them down on command. You also were not allowed to smoke outside. My Grandfather was a local warden in Lawrence, LI and he stamped out many a cigarette butt.

None of those involves the right to peaceful assembly.

It's possible a court could rule that the police could break up a basketball game but not a political protest. Not obvious.



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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 14:57:07 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 10:55:09 2020.

Never done before, but a national state of emergency can be declared, and a national lockdown can be done by Executive Order.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 15:03:52 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 14:54:28 2020.

Possible, but very unlikely.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 15:25:26 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 26 13:05:50 2020.

Fuck you, you ugly cunt. It's not right wingers that claim there are 53 sexes.

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Re: maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot

Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Mar 26 15:30:10 2020, in response to Re: maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Mar 24 16:43:24 2020.

Yep

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Mar 26 15:35:26 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:10:25 2020.

Oh my goodness. You got me, joey. I didn't realize that incels were so quick witted.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 26 16:37:01 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:53:34 2020.

This might be the first and only time I'll agree with you anything.

I was thinking before I saw all of this, that if a national PAUSE was finally done, someone will sue. However, I'd like to see the judge do the unthinkable there.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 17:51:03 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Joe V on Thu Mar 26 13:53:34 2020.

"Commercial airspace was shut down for 34 day after 9/11."

That was a result of the direct attack on the United States.
No parallel to whats going on today. No restrictions on public assembly then.

"The NEC was shut down for 4 days after Amtrak's 188 crash until ATC was implemented on that curve."

That was to complete an investigation and to implement additional safety factors. Again, nothing to do with today's restrictions on assembly,as in denying your constitutional right to gather for worship.

"During WWII air raid drills, you could be told to buy blackout shades and pull them down on command. You also were not allowed to smoke outside. My Grandfather was a local warden in Lawrence, LI and he stamped out many a cigarette butt."

We were in a World war. That was done to prevent a possible attack. Last time I checked, a state of war does not exist between the United States and anybody. Different set of circumstances all around.

Point being, your post is an example of strictly apples & oranges.


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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 18:00:27 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 26 17:51:03 2020.

It's superficial to think it's OK to restrict liberties for a war against some nation, or group of humans, but not for a temporary infestation of a deadly pathogen.

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Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot)

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 26 18:09:21 2020, in response to Re: Nevada governor bars hydroxychloroquine to treat SARS-CoV2 (maybe covid-19 really is a zionist plot), posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 26 18:00:27 2020.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

None of these freedoms was generally abridged in WW II (there may have been specific local exceptions).

Maybe one can make an argument that congregating in a park does not fall under the right to assemble, since the people "assembling" have nothing to do with each other. But someone will surely argue that you can't break up a 100-guest wedding.





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