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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:30:33 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 11:22:06 2020.

It doesn't, but it interferes with the federal government's ability to enforce its own laws, and is a clear example of liberal states asserting "state's rights."

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:30:43 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:19:49 2020.

LOL! Yeah, okay. You don't like the answer, so it's "repeating right wing propaganda".
You are "just repeating left wing propaganda".

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:31:52 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 11:22:06 2020.

You can't claim states don't have rights if you agree with "Sanctuary Cities" being with the right of going against the Federal Government's laws.
You can't have it both ways.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:31:58 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:30:43 2020.

I don't like the answer because it's completely irrelevant and it's clear that you have no idea what I'm talking about.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:33:07 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:23:33 2020.

No it is not.
An ant is not comparable to any aspect of a human.
It is legal to kill ants. It is not legal to kill humans.
You can't oversimplify this by claiming an ant is equal to a human embryo.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:34:31 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:25:33 2020.

Then you go back to what I said before. Law can be changed. But it must be changed in order for you to say something like this is so. Until the law is/if changed, then it is what it is.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:37:44 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:33:07 2020.

It is legal to kill embryos. The legality argument is irrelevant because people who believe that embryos are humans don't believe it should be legal to kill embryos.

But everyone seems to claim that an embryo should be protected because it is "life." I am pointing out that "life" is irrelevant. You only care about life when it's human life, otherwise its perfectly fine to extinguish life. And there's even a hierarchy of life (your culture may vary), e.g.: Human>Dog>Cow>Insect>Plant.

My point has always been that an embryo is no more a human life than an appendage, or a tumor, or a parasite. It does not deserve any more protection than any of those things.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:38:29 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:37:44 2020.

I understand it is legal. But it's still not comparable to spraying an ant dead.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:46:00 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:38:29 2020.

It’s not. It’s comparable to removing a parasite.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:50:37 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:34:31 2020.

OMG! My original post was all about how I wanted it changed. Olog-hai responded that he thinks that such change would cause a tyranny of the majority. Your subsequent responses have been completely irrelevant.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 11:52:39 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:23:33 2020.

At what point, in your mind, does the embryo become a human life?

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:58:07 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 11:46:00 2020.

Ridiculous. It is not.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 12:05:44 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 11:52:39 2020.

First it becomes a fetus, then the fetus becomes a human life at on or about 6 months. Abortion should be limited after about 20 weeks to cases where the life or health of the mother is implicated, or for conditions incompatible with life.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 12:07:45 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 11:58:07 2020.

It absolutely is. It's a foreign organism that is using the woman's resources, and often to her immediate detriment. Just because most pregnant women want a child to be born doesn't mean it's not a parasite to those who don't.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 12:41:54 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 12:07:45 2020.

Ridiculous.
A parasite is not meant to be in the body. A woman's body is designed to have a baby.


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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 12:47:14 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Jan 20 12:41:54 2020.

“Meant”? “Designed”? TNHIW

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 12:55:45 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 12:47:14 2020.

It is. It's her choice to have a baby, but there is no question it is meant (designed, whatever you want to call it) to have a baby. A body is not meant to have a parasite. It's perhaps one of the most absurd attempt of an argument.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 13:02:31 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 12:55:45 2020.

A body is equally "meant" to have a parasites. Parasites living in other organisms have been around since before humans, or even mammals have existed. If a woman doesn't want to have a child, an embryo growing inside of her is a parasite.

Of course, by arguing that a woman is meant to have an embryo/fetus growing inside of her, you're reducing her to a brood mare.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 13:09:04 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 13:02:31 2020.

I am most certainly not. A healthy body does not have a parasite and is not meant to have such. A baby is meant to be born out of a woman's body. In fact, without such, there would be no human race. The parallel to a parasite is absurd at best.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 13:27:28 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 13:09:04 2020.

And a body is “meant” to have a parasite to the extent that a parasite can’t live otherwise. Without hosts, the parasitic species would die out.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 13:28:17 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 13:27:28 2020.

That's wonderful, but it's not a parallel to a woman having a baby.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 13:32:55 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 13:28:17 2020.

It is a parallel to a woman having an unwanted baby.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 13:37:48 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 13:32:55 2020.

No, still not the same thing.
I am not arguing against abortion, just don't oversimplify it by saying it's like a parasite.

And furthermore, even unwanted, people know that having a penis ejaculate inside oneself can cause pregnancy, and is a normal part of such ejaculation into said oneself.
An attempt to say that eating contaminated food or other things that cause real parasites is not the same.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 13:46:35 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 13:37:48 2020.

Since you bring intercourse into it, intercourse doesn't always lead to pregnancy, and properly using birth control doesn't always avoid it. Of course, a major argument of the anti-abortion types is that people who avoid intercourse will not get pregnant and so its easy to always avoid unwanted pregnancy. This assumes that discouraging intercourse is a good thing, which is something straight out of Christian morality.

The point is that an embryo is not a human being and is not worthy of the same protections as one. It doesn't matter what analogy you use.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by bingbong on Mon Jan 20 13:49:49 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 07:24:57 2020.

Only in your opinion. Science does NOT support that conclusion. You can't prove an embryo can live on its own.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 13:53:03 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by bingbong on Mon Jan 20 13:49:49 2020.

A human life is created at conception regardless of whether it can live outside of the womb or not.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 13:57:48 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 13:46:35 2020.

I was not discouraging intercourse at all. Where did i do that? I was saying it's a normal result OF intercourse. And yes, it may not happen either, but it can only happen FROM intercourse (Obviously, it can also happen artificially, but then of course it is completely assumed that it it totally wanted).

There are three types of parasites, none of which describes a fetus.

-Protozoa are microscopic, one-celled organisms that can be free-living or parasitic in nature. A fetus is a cluster of cells, is not of this class.
-Elminths are worms, and a fetus was only ever going to develop into a human and a not a worm, so that also doesn't apply.
-Ectoparasites are things like lice, mosquitoes and ticks that attach themselves to the skin’s surface, which again, fetus does not do.

And if you want to use your last sentence, you can argue what you will, but again, I was referring to the incorrect, and actually completely belittling argument that an embryo is the same as a parasite which is what you were putting out.



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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 14:16:41 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 13:53:03 2020.

This is your opinion.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 14:17:31 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 13:53:03 2020.

That's your opinion, which is not shared by SCOTUS.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 14:22:21 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 10:35:18 2020.

Bump

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jan 20 14:55:00 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 20 08:39:27 2020.

a group of black activists bought a billboard somewhere around the East Village stating that "The Most Dangerous Place For A Black Baby Is The Womb".

Al Sharpton and the black collective had it removed.

I believe that neighborhood was chosen because they determined that that's where the abortions are performed.

You should know about this story @lm.



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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 14:58:47 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 14:17:31 2020.

Those opinions can be changed.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 15:02:00 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 13:57:48 2020.

I have heard some couples refer to their developing fetus as a parasite or a hitchhikers. Of course those terms are meant to be humerous or loving.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 15:14:15 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 20 14:58:47 2020.

Yes, I'm sure you'd prefer a return to the days when women self-aborted with a coat hanger, or went to underground "practitioners" who did it illegally.

You probably yearn for a "simpler time" altogether, where Black people lived under Jim Crow and being gay was illegal, too.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 15:28:59 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 15:14:15 2020.

LOL!!!!!!! How does everything turn into "Black people this or that"?
We are talking about abortion, yet for some reason your argument must be so thin that you have to irrelevantly inject, "Well Black people.....".

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 15:51:08 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 15:28:59 2020.

I was gonna say, how did it take a plot twist to gays and blacks and Jim Crow?

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 15:55:28 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 15:28:59 2020.

Actually, the OP is, in fact about Black people. Trump Dude hopes for SCOTUS to turn the clock back for women, and based on his posts here, he likely wishes reversals for minorities and gays, too.


PS, how did this thread turn into one about abortions? Oh, that's right, drift doesn't count...

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 15:56:28 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jan 20 15:51:08 2020.

Because illegal abortion was concurrent with Jim Crow and criminalized homosexuality.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 16:06:02 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 15:56:28 2020.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:10:52 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 15:56:28 2020.

It has nothing to do with this conversation, nor does homosexuality.
Do all paths lead to Black victim or homosexual victim?

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:11:01 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 16:06:02 2020.

Actually, before this. Abortion was illegal until 1973. Jim Crow was "legislatively" ended in 1965, but lingered on life support for nearly another decade in the South, and homosexuality in America wasn't decriminalized until 2003.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:11:39 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Jan 20 16:06:02 2020.

And he still never responded to the post with statistics where it was shown that Blacks are 6 times more likely to have an abortion than whites.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:11:43 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:10:52 2020.

Oh, stop.

Do all paths lead to "liberals"?

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:12:42 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:11:43 2020.

Yes, when the same excuse is used for everything. Who are the people claiming racism in the original post?

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:17:13 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:11:01 2020.

The three are not concurrent and are irrelevant to eachother.

"Alcohol was made illegal in the 1920s. Women recieved the right to vote in the 1920s. Thus, making alcohol illegal allowed women the right to vote."

Yes, that's how absurd you found.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:17:30 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:11:01 2020.

The three are not concurrent and are irrelevant to eachother.

"Alcohol was made illegal in the 1920s. Women recieved the right to vote in the 1920s. Thus, making alcohol illegal allowed women the right to vote."

Yes, that's how absurd you sound.

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:17:46 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:11:39 2020.

The actual numbers of Blacks and whites having abortions are pretty close. If you use proportional numbers to represent the percentage of Black people in the general population, it would appear as though Black abortion rates are much higher.

Yet, when I presented statistics in another thread showing that White people made up 85% of America's criminals but Blacks made up 65% of her prisoners, and pointed out the two groups' presence in the population as evidence of a gross disparity, several posters, including you, argued that method was invalid.

So, which is it?

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:21:25 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jan 20 16:17:46 2020.

The actual numbers of Blacks and whites having abortions are pretty close. If you use proportional numbers to represent the percentage of Black people in the general population, it would appear as though Black abortion rates are much higher.

Yes, very close. Blacks 295000, and whites 280,000 (for 2017).
Great, the rates are extremely close. BUT WHITES OUTNUMBER BLACKS 6 to 1!!!! (appox 72% to 12%). FOR EVERY BLACK PERSON THERE ARE 6 WHITES.
Didn't anyone every teach you statistics? Lets say the numbers are equal (they are close)........BUT THERE ARE SIX TIMES the amount of whites to every Black!


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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Mon Jan 20 16:21:43 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 14:16:41 2020.

Let's say that at a hypothetical point of time, there is stable polling that at least 51% of the population shares that opinion, and it's a diversified group (top scientists, women who have had abortions, etc.). What legal ramifications should there then be at that time? Or if none, what other criteria would be required for there to be any?

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Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 20 16:23:50 2020, in response to Re: Most Black Americans 'Pessimistic' About US Under Trump, See President As 'Racist': WaPo/Ipsos Poll, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 20 16:17:13 2020.

Those are actually correlated. Many suffragettes were temperancists as well, e.g. Carrie Nation.

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