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AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Aug 22 12:29:06 2019 Eliminating the current system in favor of electing the president via the national popular vote would shift power to more heavily populated states |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:31:12 2019, in response to AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Dave on Thu Aug 22 12:29:06 2019. Good! I agree with her.And it wouldn't shift power to more heavily populated states, it would shift power away from states period and to the people themselves. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 22 12:44:40 2019, in response to AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Dave on Thu Aug 22 12:29:06 2019. They had no problem with it when Obama won twice.And totalitarians have no problem with disenfranchising 90 percent of the country anyhow. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 22 12:45:06 2019, in response to AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Dave on Thu Aug 22 12:29:06 2019. It is. They did that to get the south to go along with the Constitution. Slaves didn't vote. Their owners wanted to ensure they could bilk the government to cover the expenses of maintaining their humanitarian atrocity. They did that by puffing their political power through the census counts and the electoral college. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:46:44 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 22 12:45:06 2019. FUCK THE SOUTH! |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 12:52:30 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 22 12:44:40 2019. How would 90% of the country be disenfrachised if a majority of the population did not have their preferred candidate elected because of the Electoral College? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 12:52:30 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 22 12:44:40 2019. How would 90% of the country be disenfrachised if a majority of the population did not have their preferred candidate elected because of the Electoral College? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 22 12:56:59 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 12:52:30 2019. The coastal elites would decide every election. Nothing to be heard in the rest of the country. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:59:08 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 22 12:56:59 2019. No, they wouldn't. Why do you believe this bullshit? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:59:31 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 12:52:30 2019. Because right-wing propaganda says so. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 22 13:03:20 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 22 12:56:59 2019. Never mind the fraud factor getting stronger. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 13:14:24 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 22 13:03:20 2019. LOL! |
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Aug 22 13:20:55 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:31:12 2019. IAWTP |
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Posted by Jimmymc25 on Thu Aug 22 13:23:16 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:31:12 2019. Absolutely. It might even motivate more people to vote if they know their vote actually counted for something . |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 13:23:35 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 22 12:56:59 2019. The difference would be that rather than Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconisn, Michigan, and Ohio being the swing states it would be Florida, Pennsylvnia, Texas, New York, and California. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 13:23:36 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 22 12:56:59 2019. The difference would be that rather than Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconisn, Michigan, and Ohio being the swing states it would be Florida, Pennsylvnia, Texas, New York, and California. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 13:24:51 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Jimmymc25 on Thu Aug 22 13:23:16 2019. Yep. What motivates a Republican to vote in New York or Connecticut knowing that the state is never going to go Republican? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 13:25:26 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Jimmymc25 on Thu Aug 22 13:23:16 2019. More people voting is death to Republicans. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 13:26:32 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by mtk52983 on Thu Aug 22 13:23:35 2019. No. There would be no "swing states" at all. There would only be swing groups and voter turnout nationwide. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 14:36:00 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:31:12 2019. You agree that the Electoral College is racist?Are you also in the camp of math being racist too? Also; even if you do backtrack on the racism. You're so wrong on the subject I'm thinking of fighting you. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 14:37:14 2019, in response to AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Dave on Thu Aug 22 12:29:06 2019. I wish states would institute an electorial college. Why must states like NY or Illinois especially get hijacked into the gutter because one small region votes a certain way. That is not fair.Every county should get a vote. However, Walter E Williams (an educated Black Man) makes a great case for paying to vote. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 14:42:33 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by bingbong on Thu Aug 22 12:45:06 2019. Ahh the Census. That "honest" count through the eons.Kinda like when Clinton decided to ramp up the count in liberal college towns. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Aug 22 14:51:06 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:59:08 2019. I don’t know about elites, but it would make sense to campaign where votes are concentrated. That alone puts republicans at a disadvantage as they have far more rural voters. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 14:55:17 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Easy on Thu Aug 22 14:51:06 2019. That was probably true before television and the internet were invented.It does put rural areas at a disadvantages because there are fewer rural people. But putting the needs of majorities over minorities where they conflict is the way it should work. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 14:58:44 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 14:55:17 2019. WASPEven Television cost. Why would candidates spend to spread their message in Boise? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 15:00:49 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 13:25:26 2019. Yeah, it's a good thing to advocate for illiterates whom I won't teach you about or people locked up in prison.Whose going to be the first person to Campaign at death row? Or is that a safe district? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:04:30 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Train Dude on Thu Aug 22 14:58:44 2019. They don't spread their message in Boise now either. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:05:16 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:04:30 2019. At least with a popular vote, the votes of people from Boise would actually count. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 22 15:09:27 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:05:16 2019. No they wouldn't because the desires of the two coasts would trump (pun not intended) all. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:13:34 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 15:00:49 2019. Increasing voter turnout among the presently eligible is not the same as wanting prisoners to vote.I'm surprised you didn't also accuse me of wanting foreigners to vote. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 22 15:16:52 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 14:36:00 2019. I see your mother / sister havent noticed you escaped your cage again |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 15:20:17 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:13:34 2019. I did. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 15:20:41 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 22 15:16:52 2019. Quick, what's 1 times 3? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:22:11 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 15:20:17 2019. Thanks.Although I don't believe non-citizens should be allowed to vote, I believe junior citizens should be allowed to vote. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Aug 22 15:24:56 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 15:20:41 2019. Quick, keep your mouth shut |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:31:00 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 22 15:09:27 2019. Where do you get this bullshit?With electoral vote: The votes of Boisians (if that's the term) is totally useless as Idaho is going to go Republican regardless, even if it's a close election. With popular vote: The votes of Boisians is useful because every vote counts. A few extra Republican or Democratic votes from places like Boise could make the difference in a close race. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 16:16:34 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 15:31:00 2019. I'm trying to start a new theory that they should all get out to vote regardless just to send a message. It's one thing that Boise is a so-called "safe" district, but imagine if they came out to vote in even greater numbers. You can't get that delusional crap that Obama used to say (when 51% was a clear majority and such). |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 16:21:24 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a racist scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 16:16:34 2019. If every eligible Idahoan voted, then Idaho would still be red. What would be the point? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 22 16:50:46 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Aug 22 14:37:14 2019. Because a very large number of people in the state live in the region. It's not the size of the region, it's the number of people. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 22 17:06:51 2019, in response to AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Dave on Thu Aug 22 12:29:06 2019. She's such an asshole. If you don't like the electoral system, fine, but calling something that the Founding Fathers of this country set up to prevent tyranny is utter bullshit.I've had enough of this kid's yapper. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 22 17:14:49 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Aug 22 17:06:51 2019. You had enough of her yapper the moment she ran for office. At least her call for abolition isn't for something outside of legislative norms. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 17:34:28 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 22 17:14:49 2019. Exactly. What the hell is Mitch's problem? He doesn't believe in Article V?The founding fathers also allowed slavery to persist. Is he against the 13th amendment? And the Electoral College was hardly established to prevent tyranny. If anything, it was established to perpetuate it, by giving the Southern dystopia disproportionate power. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Aug 22 18:27:21 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 13:25:26 2019. Not sure about that. It's very likely there's more Republicans in cities than Democrats in red states, they just have no reason to vote. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Aug 22 18:28:39 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 12:31:12 2019. Putting aside the practical arguments for and against the Electoral College, do you think her calling it racist will inspire anyone to take seriously the elimination of it? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 22 18:55:17 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Aug 22 18:27:21 2019. Are you saying the non-voting Republicans in cities are so stupid don't vote even when their vote would make a difference?Because otherwise your assertion is provably wrong. For example, those NYC Republicans who supposedly sit out presidential elections would have done their best to keep de Blasio's and Cuomo's vote totals down. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 22 18:56:18 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Aug 22 18:28:39 2019. No, she has probable set that cause back a bunch of steps. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 19:12:47 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 22 18:55:17 2019. I think that the argument is that while the urban Republicans are outnumbered in the blue states, they are not outnumbered on a national level.If what Henry said were true, then Republicans would be bending over backwards to abolish the EC and give the "silent majority" their vote back. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 19:13:34 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 22 18:56:18 2019. What? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 19:16:09 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 19:12:47 2019. Yes. Many in Ca, NY, MA feel their vote does not count.No EC would force more campaign stops in Worcester MA and upstate NY. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 22 19:19:12 2019, in response to Re: AOC calls the Electoral College a raciast scam, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 22 19:16:09 2019. IAWTP |
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